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    format_quote Originally Posted by IndianMuslim View Post
    BismillahirRahmanirRahim,

    As Salam Alaikum,

    17:81. And say: Truth hath come and falsehood hath vanished away. Lo! falsehood is ever bound to vanish.

    Well, so informs us the FURQAAN, Alhumdulillaah. Yet, how come there are so many wrong notions still entertrained and believed on just because the ruling says so ???

    For instance let us take the issue of our salat, INSHA-ALLAH (SWT).

    Visit any mosque and one see a time table displayed for the Salats held in the mosque with their respective times, Maashallah. But, why the first salat shown is FAJAR??? Is this the TRUTH???

    And, if a muslim do not know his/her FIRST SALAT then how will they be careful of their mid-most Salat as exhorted by ALLAH SUBHANA WA TAALA in 02:238???

    Wonder, if this is important to others and worth a debate for those who care for truth??? It is best to wait for further response, INSHA-ALLAH (SWT).

    And peace be unto those sent (to warn).
    And praise be to Allah, Lord of the Worlds!

    which is the middle prayer?

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    Re: Asr? or Fajr?



    I seek refuge in Allah (The One God) from the Satan (devil) the cursed, the rejected

    With the name of ALLAH (swt) -The Bestower Of Unlimited Mercy, The Continously Merciful


    Assalamu Alaikum Wa Rahmatullahi Wa Barakatuh (May the peace, mercy and blessings of Allah be upon you)


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    format_quote Originally Posted by al-fateh View Post




    which is the middle prayer?

    Asr? or Fajr?

    I think , middle prayers are Zohr/Dhur and asr ( noon & after noon ) prayers.

    Anyway , what's the purpose of this question ? Holy Prophet (p) showed us how & when to offer salat. So , where is the problem ?


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    Re: Asr? or Fajr?




    Its in Ibn Kathir's tafsir - the 'Asr Prayer is the middle prayer. And Allaah knows best.


    The Proof that the `Asr Prayer is the Middle Prayer


    Imam Ahmad reported that `Ali narrated that Allah's Messenger said during the battle of Al-Ahzab (the Confederates):

    «شَغَلُونَا عَنِ الصَّلَاةِ الْوُسْطَى، صَلَاةِ الْعَصْرِ، مَلَأَ اللهُ قُلُوبَهُم وَبُيُوتَهم نَارًا»

    (They (the disbelievers) busied us from performing the Middle prayer, the `Ar prayer, may Allah fill their hearts and houses with fire.)


    He performed the `Asr prayer between Maghrib and `Isha'. Muslim and An-Nasa'i recorded this Hadith. In addition, the Two Shaykhs, Abu Dawud, At-Tirmidhi An-Nasa'i and several other collectors of the Sunan recorded this Hadith using different chains of narrators to `Ali. The Hadith about the battle of Al-Ahzab, when the Mushriks prevented Allah's Messenger and his Companions from performing the `Asr prayer, has been narrated by several other Companions. We only mentioned the narrations that stated that the Middle prayer is the `Asr prayer. Furthermore, Muslim reported similar wordings for this Hadith from Ibn Mas`ud and Al-Bara' bin `Azib.


    In addition, Imam Ahmad reported that Samurah bin Jundub said that Allah's Messenger said:

    «صَلَاةُ الْوسْطَى صَلَاةُ الْعَصْر»

    (The Middle prayer is the `Asr prayer.)

    In another narration, Allah's Messenger mentioned:

    [حَـفِظُواْ عَلَى الصَّلَوَتِ والصَّلَوةِ الْوُسْطَى]

    (Guard strictly (five obligatory) As-Salawat (the prayers) especially the Middle Salah) and stated that it is the `Asr prayer. In another narration, Allah's Messenger said:

    «هِيَ الْعَصْر»

    (It is the `Asr prayer.) and Ibn Ja`far mentioned that the Prophet was then being asked about the Middle prayer. At-Tirmidhi reported this Hadith and said, "Hasan, Sahih." In addition, Abu Hatim bin Hibban reported in his Sahih that `Abdullah said that Allah's Messenger said:

    «صَلَاةُ الْوسْطَى صَلَاةُ الْعَصْر»

    (The Middle prayer is the `Asr prayer.)


    At-Tirmidhi reported that Ibn Mas`ud narrated that Allah's Messenger said:

    «صَلَاةُ الْوسْطَى صَلَاةُ الْعَصْر»

    (The `Asr prayer is the Middle prayer.)

    At-Tirmidhi then stated that this Hadith is of a Hasan, Sahih type. Muslim reported the Hadith in his Sahih and his wordings are:

    «شَغَلُونَا عَنِ الصَّلَاةِ الْوسْطَى صَلَاةِ الْعَصْر»

    (They (disbelievers) busied us from performing the Middle prayer, the `Asr prayer.)


    These texts emphasize the fact (that the `Asr prayer is the Middleprayer). What further proves this fact is that, in an authentic Hadith, Allah's Messenger emphasized the necessity of preserving the `Asr prayer, when he said, as Ibn `Umar narrated:

    «مَنْ فَاتَتْهُ صَلَاةُ الْعَصْرِ فَكَأَنَّمَا وُتِرَ أَهْلَهُ وَمَالَه»

    (Whoever misses the `Asr prayer will be like who has lost his family and money.)

    It is reported in the Sahih that Buraydah bin Al-Husayb said that the Prophet said:

    «بَكِّرُوا بِالصَّلَاةِ فِي يَوْمِ الْغَيْمِ، فَإِنَّهُ مَنْ تَرَكَ صَلَاةَ الْعَصْرِ، فَقَدْ حَبِطَ عَمَلُه»

    (On a cloudy day, perform the (`Asr) prayer early, for whoever misses the `Asr prayer, will have his (good) deeds annulled.)
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    Fajr is the morning prayer is it not? Asr is the afternoon prayer.

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    Re: Asr? or Fajr?

    fajr - morning prayers
    dhuhr - early day prayers, lik when sun is at its peak
    asr - midday prayers
    maghrib - when the sun goes down
    isha - evenin prayers

    and Allah hu alim
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