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    The accepted faith of most of the Muslims is that Jesus(pbuh) is alive in the Heaven. According to them Jews wanted to kill him on the cross and Allah raised him alive in the Heaven.

    If you are one of the Muslims who believe in the faith mentioned above, you need to read along the rest of the discussion.
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    Re: Jesus, dead or alive ?

    format_quote Originally Posted by stefanrosty View Post
    The accepted faith of most of the Muslims is that Jesus(pbuh) is alive in the Heaven. According to them Jews wanted to kill him on the cross and Allah raised him alive in the Heaven.

    If you are one of the Muslims who believe in the faith mentioned above, you need to read along the rest of the discussion.
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    Peace;
    Sorry to say this article is a clear example of ignorance of Quranic Arabic and style.I do not know whether it is really lack of knowledge or intentional dodge to the reader.
    Last edited by Umm Yoosuf; 06-21-2007 at 02:08 PM. Reason: Link in quote removed
    Jesus, dead or alive ?

    Who can be more irrational than those who say: Design is possible without a designer ??

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    Re: Jesus, dead or alive ?

    format_quote Originally Posted by stefanrosty View Post
    The accepted faith of most of the Muslims is that Jesus(pbuh) is alive in the Heaven. According to them Jews wanted to kill him on the cross and Allah raised him alive in the Heaven.

    If you are one of the Muslims who believe in the faith mentioned above, you need to read along the rest of the discussion.
    [LINK REMOVED]


    Wow, I'm not even Muslim and even I know better than posting a link with bs content. Ever learned how to research effectively?
    Last edited by Umm Yoosuf; 06-21-2007 at 01:59 PM. Reason: link in quote removed

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    Re: Jesus, dead or alive ?

    format_quote Originally Posted by Philosopher View Post
    Wow, I'm not even Muslim and even I know better than posting a link with bs content. Ever learned how to research effectively?
    What is 'bs content', Philosopher?
    Jesus, dead or alive ?

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    Here I stand.
    I can do no other.
    May God help me.
    Amen.

    Come, let us worship and bow down •
    and kneel before the Lord our Maker

    [Psalm 95]


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    Re: Jesus, dead or alive ?

    Jesus is alive!!!! Jesus is alive!!!! Jesus is alive!!!!

    He's not dead yet.
    Jesus, dead or alive ?

    Assalamualaykum... I am back!!

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    Re: Jesus, dead or alive ?

    format_quote Originally Posted by north_malaysian View Post
    Jesus is alive!!!! Jesus is alive!!!! Jesus is alive!!!!
    I was listening to a song just like that earlier in the car ...
    Jesus, dead or alive ?

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    Here I stand.
    I can do no other.
    May God help me.
    Amen.

    Come, let us worship and bow down •
    and kneel before the Lord our Maker

    [Psalm 95]


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    Re: Jesus, dead or alive ?

    format_quote Originally Posted by stefanrosty View Post
    The accepted faith of most of the Muslims is that Jesus(pbuh) is alive in the Heaven. According to them Jews wanted to kill him on the cross and Allah raised him alive in the Heaven.

    If you are one of the Muslims who believe in the faith mentioned above, you need to read along the rest of the discussion.
    [LINK REMOVED]
    I felt like sayin:

    Liar liar, your mouth will catch on fire, but wont as I have been warned that my posts are unislamic because I am not all fuzzy, warm and lovey dovey to your kind.

    so i will just correct 1 lie of yours

    you say:

    Analysis of the verse 3:54 from Surah Ale Imran
    In the verse 3:54 Allah says:

    3:54 Behold! Allah Said: “O Isa! I shall cause you to die and I shall exalt you towards me and I shall clear you of those who reject Faith, and I am going to make those who follow you above those who reject Faith - until the day of Awakening. Then towards Me is your return, so that I shall decide among you as to in which you used to differ.
    Qura'an says:
    3:54 and they (disbelievers) plotted [to kill 'Iesa (Jesus)], and Allâh planned too. and Allâh is the best of the planners.

    means that you have copied from somewhere other than Qura'an

    I stand to be corrected if I am wrong


    3:55. and when Allâh said: "O 'Iesa! I will take You and raise You to myself and clear You of the forged statement that of those who disbelieve, and I will make those who follow You superior to those who disbelieve till the Day of Resurrection. Then You will return to Me and I will judge between You In the matters In which You used to dispute."
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    Re: Jesus, dead or alive ?

    Ofcourse He Is Dead...i Know He Was 'resurrected' But Its Been Years After That So....he Can't Live Forever... us muslims believe he is alive in paradise as we speak

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    Re: Jesus, dead or alive ?

    This subject has being discussed a number of times before.

    See this section:

    http://www.islamicboard.com/comparative-religion/


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    Allah the Almighty declared: And because of their saying (in boast), "We killed Messiah Isa, son of Maryam, the Messenger of Allah," but they killed him not, nor crucified him, but the resemblance of Isa was put over another man (and they killed that man) and those who differ therein are full of doubts. They have no certain knowledge, they follow nothing but conjecture. For surely; they killed him not (Isa, son of Maryam): But Allah raised him (Isa) up (with his body and soul) unto Himself (and he is in the heavens). And Allah is Ever All Powerful, All Wise.

    And there is none of the people of the Scripture (Jews & Christians), but must believe in him (Isa, son of Maryam, as only a Messenger of Allah, and a human being0, before his (Isa or a Jew's or a Christian's ) death (at the time of the appearance of the angel of death). And on the Day of Resurrection, he (Isa) will be a witness against them.
    ( 4:157-159 Quran)

    Almighty Allah also revealed: And remember when Allah said: "O Isa! I will take you and raise you to Myself and clear you (of the forged statement that Isa is Allah's son) of those who disbelieve, and I will make those who follow you (Monotheists, who worship none but Allah ) superior to those who disbelieve (in the Oneness of Allah, or disbelieve in some of His Messengers, e.g. Muhammad, Isa, Moses, etc., or in His Holy Books, e.g. the Torah, the Gospel, the Qur'an) till the Day of Resurrection. Then you will return to Me and I will judge between you in the matters in which you used to dispute." (3:55 Quran).

    Almighty Allah refuted the claims of the Jews and the Christians in many verses of the Glorious Qur'an.

    And hey say: "The Most Beneficent (Allah) has begotten a son (or offspring or children) (as the Jews say: Ezra is the son of Allah, and the Christians say that He has begotten a son (Christ), and the pagan Arabs say that he has begotten daughters (angels, etc.))."

    Indeed you have brought forth (said) a terrible evil thing. Whereby the heavens are almost torn, and the earth is split asunder, and the mountains fall in ruins, that they ascribe a son (or offspring or children) to the Most Beneficent (Allah).

    But it is not suitable for (the Majesty of ) the Most Beneficent (Allah) that He should beget a son (or offspring or children). There is non in the heavens and the earth but comes unto the Most Beneficent (Allah) as a slave. Verily, He knows each one of them, and has counted them a full counting. And everyone of them will come to Him alone on the Day of Resurrection (without any helper, or protector or defender).
    (19:88-95 Quran)

    Allah the Exalted also declared: Yet, they join the jinns as partners in worship with Allah, though He has created them (the jinns), and they attribute falsely without knowledge sons and daughters to Him. Be He Glorified! And Exalted above (all) that they attribute to Him. He is the Originator of the heavens and the earth. How can He have children when He has no wife? He created all things and He is the All-Knower of everything.

    Such is Allah, your Lord! La ilaha illa Huwa (none has the right to be worshipped but He), the Creator of all things. So worship Him (Alone), and He is the Wakil (Trustee, Disposer of affairs, Guardian etc.) over all tings.

    No vision can grasp Him, but His Grasp is over all vision. He is the Most Subtle and Courteous, Well-Acquainted with all things.
    (6:100-103 Quran)

    Almighty Allah commanded: O people of the Scripture (Jews and Christians)! Do not exceed the limits in you religion, nor say of Allah aught but the truth. The Messiah Isa, son of Maryam, was (no more than ) a Messenger of Allah and His Word, ("Be" - and he was) which He bestowed on Maryam and a spirit (Ruh) created by Him; so believe in Allah and His Messengers. Say not: "Three (trinity)!" Cease! (It is ) better for you. For Allah is the only One Ilah (God), Glory be to Him (Far Exalted is He) above having a son. To Him belongs all that is in the heavens and all that is in the earth. And Allah is All Sufficient as a Disposer of affairs.

    The Messiah will never be proud to reject to be a slave to Allah, nor the angels who are near (to Allah). And whosoever rejects His worship and is proud, then He will gather them all together unto Himself. So, as for those who believed (in the Oneness of Allah - Islamic Monotheism) and did deeds of righteousness, He will give their (due) rewards, and more out of His Bounty. But as for those who refuse His worship and were proud, He will punish them with a painful torment. And they will not find for themselves besides Allah any protector or helper.
    (4:171-173 Quran)

    Almighty Allah also declared: And the Jews say: Ezra is the son of Allah, and the Christians say: Messiah is the son of Allah. That is a saying from their mouths. They imitate the saying of the disbeliveers of old. Allah's Curse be on them, how they are deluded away from the truth!

    They (Jews and Christians) took their rabbis and their monks to be their lords besides Allah, (by obeying them in things which they made lawful or unlawful according to their own desires without being ordered by Allah) and (they also took as their lord) Messiah, son of Maryam , while they (Jews and Christians) were commanded (in the Torah and the Gospel) to worship none but One Ilah (God- Allah) La ilaha illa Huwa (none has the right to be worshipped but He). Praise and glory be to Him, (far above is He) from having the partners they associate (with Him).
    (9:30-32 Quran)

    Allah the Almighty also revealed: Now ask them (O Muhammad): "Are there (only) daughters for your Lord and sons for them?" Or did We create the angels females while they were witnesses?

    Verily, it is of their falsehood that they (Quraish pagans) say: "Allah has begotten off-spring or children (angels are the daughters of Allah)" And, verily, they are liars!

    Has He (then) chosen daughters rather than sons? What is the matter with you? How do you decide? Will you not then remember? Or is there for you a plain authority? Then bring your Book if you are truthful!

    And they have invented a kinship between Him and the jinns, but the jinn know well that they have indeed to appear (before Him) (i.e. they will be brought for accounts).

    Glorified be Allah! (He is free) from what they attribute unto Him! Except the slaves of Allah, whom He chooses (for His Mercy i.e. true believers of Islamic Monotheism who do not attribute false things unto Allah).
    (37:149-160 Quran)

    http://www.islamicboard.com/prophets...isa-jesus.html


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