I agree with bro akhee, he found evidence that showes us that Music is haram.
And like what you have said, is just your oppinion and not based on anything.
But not only me and akhee think like this, most scolars agree that music is Haram.. so you say that they are wrong?
So i think you should think this matter over again
“The best type of jihaad is the jihaad of the one who strives against his own self (jihaad al-nafs) for the sake of Allaah.”
No one is answering my question...they are just copying and pasting hadiths...what is INHERENTLY WRONG WITH PLAYING/LISTENING TO MUSICAL INSTRUMENTS? I need a logical answer not "believe it and shut up".
If the bell is a musical instrument of satan then why is it described that an angel came with a bell like sound ? in hadith 01:002 bukhari
And what about the sound of a trumpet being sounded on the day of ressurection?
Also to consider is the hadith about Abu bakr getting angry about the kids playing music and the Prophet PBUH telling him to leave the kids alone and not bother them, I think its covered in the last page by salehah. hadith 15:70
I think its obvious what the negative effects are of music when the music is haram kind of music, like rap music glorifying sexual liasions and drugs ect ect.
Also if you start adoring the singer it get into Idol worship , hence the title 'pop idol'
Musicical nasheeds and songs about Allah and the deen I just do not see any harm in them,
thats my logical explanation.
No links, no copy and pasting. I want answers from Muslims on this board. That link didn't answer why music itself is INHERENTLY sinful. Maybe I'm on the wrong message board...
The link simply conjectured on how evil music is and how it's the work of satan and will lead us to hell...I'm looking for practical evidence why Music is different than say Typing messages in a message board all day!
Drivers were given different types of music to listen to , to see how it effected their driving.
The ones who listened to classical music, drove very relaxed and almost docile
The ones who listened to dance music, took chances and and drove aggresivley,
Just another SMALL example of how music can influence you.
here is some more
Mr. Sasabe (G7) wrote:
I got caught speeding wice in my life and both of the times it was because I was listening to the music in my car and did not realize how fast I was going. Maybe it's all about the "training" that Dr. James has been talking about, but when my favorite music comes out, I just lose myself!
Classical music uses instruments though, doesn't it?
Insan99 - have a look earlier in this thread and you'll find plenty of people patiently explaining why music is considered haraam by many scholars. I don't really understand it myself, but have a look and you'll see the answers I was provided with.
One more thing - please chill out. There's no need to shout.
Classical music does of course use instruments, but if your listening to classical music it will atleast have a better physcological effect on you than say rap music.
But all the same it takes your thoughts away from Allah, in effect you are sort of worshipping the music, especially if you like it and listen to it all the time.
Thats why I think if you have to listen to music as personally I 'have to' as I love music, listen to something that is praising Allah or talking singing about Islam.
its more physcholohgically and spiritually rewarding than any other music.
good point...music is also a method of instruction for kids with disablities and make remarkable results. What is haram about that? As long as the content is pure and you don't miss salat then what's wrong with music?
Classical music uses instruments though, doesn't it?
Insan99 - have a look earlier in this thread and you'll find plenty of people patiently explaining why music is considered haraam by many scholars. I don't really understand it myself, but have a look and you'll see the answers I was provided with.
One more thing - please chill out. There's no need to shout.
Peace
I'm not "shouting" I'm emphasizing my point. You can chill out this isn't reality.
czgibson: please show me the information...I don't have time to look through 13 pages, especially when you mentioned you don't understand it anyway.
lol yes you have to watc pop idol for the mere entertainment factor, and actually it always shocks me how they are so desperate to 'buy' into the world of fake pop idol and sell thier souls, go naked ect all in the name of comercialised pop.
It makes me so happy Im not sucked into it, but yep defiantly funny when they can't sing
There is that other one bump n grind, where its about being a 'dance idol' one girl got on her hands and knees and BEGGED like a dog to a jusdge to be given a mere chance to be picked for dance idol :eek:
There is that other one bump n grind, where its about being a 'dance idol' one girl got on her hands and knees and BEGGED like a dog to a jusdge to be given a mere chance to be picked for dance idol :eek:
one thing i just wna point out. if the authentic hadith state that its not allowed, then you have to follow the orders of our beloved Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessings be upon him and his beloved family.)
"..We hear, and we obey: (We seek) Thy forgiveness, our Lord, and to Thee is the end of all journeys." (2:285)
we know that our beloved Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessings be upon him and his beloved family) just wanted us to enter jannah, and he taught us what to do and what not to do to fulfill our mission, if you keep disagreeing and asking 'why is this?' then its up to you..
"Leave that which makes you doubt for that which does not make you doubt." (narrated by Termithi and Nasaee, and Tirmithi said it is true and fine hadith.)
good point...music is also a method of instruction for kids with disablities and make remarkable results. What is haram about that? As long as the content is pure and you don't miss salat then what's wrong with music?
What's the path to hell paved with?
Just playing Devil's Advocate here. Well, I am studying law...
I'm not "shouting" I'm emphasizing my point. You can chill out this isn't reality.
czgibson: please show me the information...I don't have time to look through 13 pages, especially when you mentioned you don't understand it anyway.
Exscuse me , and sorry CZ to answer on your behalf, but what makes you think CZ has time to look throgh pages, your demands are rather rude, if you are truly interested in truth seeking you have to have patients and not demand people show you this and that simply becuase you cannot be bothered to look yourself.
To 'seek' out truth means just that
So the argument of music being a vital and great form of art that Muslims lack, is really ethnocentric.
And that makes sense how? Art is an expression which humans use to convey emotions and messages. This is a fundamental right and need by humans to take part in. Islam doesn't deny these rights and neither should Muslims.
Ok I give up...it's clear that no one can simply answer my question as to why Musical instruments are detrimental in itself to one's deen. People are quick to copy and paste hadiths, but no one can lay it out in plain english. Thanks for the effort I guess. Maybe I can get some better info from gawaher.com. Salam alaikum.
when u listen to music, it sticks in ure head.. and u get the melody all the time in ure head.. how fun is that? to "recite" in a manner of singing?? or in a manner of music??
or ure going to pray and u start and then the music comes? HOW is that good?? in which way?? u answer that!
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