After the first gulf war we have come to know between 5000-7000 american soldiers embraced Islam, I was wondering does anyone know the figures who have entered after the wars on Iraq and Afghanistan?
See how Allah (SWT) shows his signs?
"Lo! the Hour is surely coming, there is no doubt thereof; yet most of mankind believe not." (Al-Ghafir:59)
brother ansar I know what youre saying all of us on here (i would think) and the majority of muslims around the globe agree with you that 9/11 was a terrible act and not supported in anyway especially considering many of them where our brothers and sisters that died. I dont agree with them arresting the brother for dua though. Anyway my man shiek yusuf estes has written and article and somewhat agrees that dua's like this should not be made here is his story during his hajj (ties in also with the luxury hajj thread :brother: ) http://www.islamtomorrow.com/articles/Hajj2.asp
"Lo! the Hour is surely coming, there is no doubt thereof; yet most of mankind believe not." (Al-Ghafir:59)
Personally, the person who produced that flash file just quickly acquired any images from the internet in order to make the dua more appealing. Obviously, these images are ambiguous. For instance, when Sheikh Mohaisany is addressin' the oppressors, a image of Arafat appears. From my perspective, the person who produced it had not much of a choice when selectin' the appropiate images.
This is just a case of ambiguity and unfortunately can be interpretated wrongly by the Non-Muslims.
By the way, brother Ansar, could you e-mail me the audio file (if it's not much of a trouble) since I never knew there was one.
Ah, I see. It's not got the hyphen/dash in between
format_quote Originally Posted by Kadafi
Personally, the person who produced that flash file just quickly acquired any images from the internet in order to make the dua more appealing. Obviously, these images are ambiguous. For instance, when Sheikh Mohaisany is addressin' the oppressors, a image of Arafat appears. From my perspective, the person who produced it had not much of a choice when selectin' the appropiate images.
This is just a case of ambiguity and unfortunately can be interpretated wrongly by the Non-Muslims.
Yeah, I suppose thats a plausible theory . The person probably didn't consider the other side. Basically, he's innocent. No use crying over spilt milk I guess. Thats how the cookie crumbles. Thats the way the wind blows
"I spent thirty years learning manners, and I spent twenty years learning knowledge."
Assalamu Alaykum Kadafi,
I definitely think we don't want to be sending mixed messages to non-muslims and other muslims. We condemn 9/11 and anyone who supports it. We condemn those who distort the message of Islam.
It is essential to remove the video file. Br. Kadafi, you could replace it with the audio mp3 file I have. It won't let me post it cause it's fairly big.
If you pm me your e-mail address, I can send it through G-mail insha'Allah.
Wassalaam
The Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) said: "Surely I was sent to perfect the qualities of righteous character" [Musnad Ahmad, Muwatta Mâlik]
Assalamu Alaykum Kadafi,
I definitely think we don't want to be sending mixed messages to non-muslims and other muslims. We condemn 9/11 and anyone who supports it. We condemn those who distort the message of Islam.
It is essential to remove the video file. Br. Kadafi, you could replace it with the audio mp3 file I have. It won't let me post it cause it's fairly big.
Kadafi, i do not want to cause disrest and a argument, but if you want to keep the current du'aa with th images, than i suggest you keep the current video. There is no mixed messages, this is a clear video which matches the du'aa, i do not see what you find wrong in the images ansar?
brothers,
Despite the fact that this dua is one of my all-favorite supplication, I've to go with the idea that we should remove the flash file and add the audio version. Islam is continuously distorted in the media and by the enemies of Islam, and if we keep this ambiguous video file, then we're contributin' to the distortion of Islam.
Brother Hash, you can download the dua video file and watch it on your computer.
Bear in mind that this is an Islamic forum for Muslims _and_ Non-Muslims and we simply do not want the Non-Muslims to get the wrong notion regardin' Islam.
I think brother Kadafi has made a sensible decision as we don't want non-muslims to get the wrong idea about Islam. I like this video. I think it's great but non-muslims just have the same misconveived ideas about jihad is evil and whatnot. They'll never understand. But is this the only video version available? Perhaps there is another version which doesn't feature those images?
Last edited by Uthman; 02-10-2005 at 10:24 PM.
"I spent thirty years learning manners, and I spent twenty years learning knowledge."
Ansar,
Although I tend agree with you on following the correct teachings of Islam, but I negative comments won't help the conversation. I believe person with opposing view doesn't normally tune out if positive language is used to correct an opinion.
Last edited by Ansar Al-'Adl; 03-09-2005 at 02:17 AM.
Brothers, please refrain from usin' profanity in your posts. I'm pretty sure that you guys can get your point across in a more intelligent approach as observed.
Bear in mind that the Prophet (P) stated that the one of the characteristics of a believer is that he/she never scoffs at others, calls them names, or others obsencene phrases.
This topic has run its course (diverted from its original topic), Jazaka'Allah Khairun for your inputs.
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