Is there any reason out side of the Koran that would indicate that hte souls of newborns are born with faith in Allah?
No the main source for Islam is the Quran, not what I say or what you think its about what Allah thinks and ultimately wills.
When you say outside of the “Quran” I don't think you should look any further, to places such as science as this issue concerning “soul” is outside of it.
the soul is a metaphysicla version of us right? What we are the soul is? What the soul is we are?
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godzilla
Is there any reason out side of the Koran
that would indicate that hte souls of newborns are born with faith in Allah?
Hello - assalam
Hmm, I remembered one of the few research articles I had read some time ago.
So here comes a controversial issue for every one here to make you busy for a
while , LOL. At least I suppose there is some clues in it.
I wish you all love, peace, and happiness in your lives.
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godzilla
Quick read threw the report seems to be lacky was the test even double blind?
I wish you all love, peace, and happiness in your lives.
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godzilla
Why sister as a Muslim and neither having the experience of being a convert or revert you should see both sides equally.... Maybe I could help if you have any questions about converts or the members of LI because our knowlegable brotther Woodrow who is a convert .
Yanal, i guess what I meant to say it that, after reading both sides of a discussion or argument I can see how boths...think...i guess is how you would put it, I am open-minded in most subjects.
btw...i would pm a lot of questions but the pm on here won't let me until I post 50 posts...I can post my email if necessary.
There is a hadith of the Prophet (saws), in which he said:
“How good are the women of Ansar (helpers) that their shyness does not prevent them from learning religion."
Don't let your shyness get in the way inshaAllah if you are sincerely seeking information about the religion, people will not (or at least should not) get offended by the questions.
While talking with a person one on one can be comfortable, it's not the ideal situation unless you're talking with a person of knowledge (and I don't think we have any of them here on this board). The rest of us are mere students (if even) and we may be mistaken in our answers. If the questions are posted publicly, then if one answerer makes a mistake, another can correct him/her.
I have plenty, but too shy to ask out loud due to the fact that I don't want to offend anyone. I do better with one on one either PMs or messangers.
Theres plenty of members here who will be willing to help you out. Just post your questions in a thread, or if unsuitable for all members then try the sisters section or pm them after you have enough posts. You can also post as anonymous
Hello there Mick, hope you are doing well, and enjoying the forum.
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the soul is a metaphysicla version of us right?
Yes you could put it in this format.
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What we are the soul is?
well how we behave, and think not the whole of "we" is the soul.
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What the soul is we are?
again see my previouse reply.
The way you have laid it out Mick it seems that it isnt metaphysical as if we are the soul, then you can see the soul, and you can experiment the soul, so it wont be metaphysical.
I would say the soul is how we think, the soul is more of the center of the body: Mind and heart. now i now the heart doesnt do the thinking but you can understand what i mean.
Hello there Mick, hope you are doing well, and enjoying the forum.
Yes you could put it in this format.
well how we behave, and think not the whole of "we" is the soul.
again see my previouse reply.
The way you have laid it out Mick it seems that it isnt metaphysical as if we are the soul, then you can see the soul, and you can experiment the soul, so it wont be metaphysical.
I would say the soul is how we think, the soul is more of the center of the body: Mind and heart. now i now the heart doesnt do the thinking but you can understand what i mean.
Peace
So our soul would be our essence and would be a reflection of who we are? I am just looking for a good agreed view of what a souls is if we have one so that I can talk about if having a pure soul leads to faith/belief. I want the idea to be laid out in a simple to follow out line with a few key points.
I wish you all love, peace, and happiness in your lives.
It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it. ~Aristotle www.themuslimzone.com
atheist of peace www.heathen-hub.com
godzilla
Right mentally and physically and atheist but "spiritually" a Muslim. They hold no belief structure at all. So they would only be Muslims in the sense that their soul is a Muslim.
Please don't be offended but you have just compared atheists, and yourself for that matter, to having a mental and physical ability equivalent to a baby with no control of there thoughts, actions and/or ideas.
If thats the case, you have correctly indentified the concept of atheism which is a concept lacking alot of mental stimulus
"And do not Die unless you are in the state of Islam (Submission)"
Please don't be offended but you have just compared atheists, and yourself for that matter, to having a mental and physical ability equivalent to a baby with no control of there thoughts, actions and/or ideas.
If thats the case, you have correctly indentified the concept of atheism which is a concept lacking alot of mental stimulus
Well thats not what I meant to say. But if you look at post following that I am sure you will see that.
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atheist of peace www.heathen-hub.com
godzilla
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