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    i dont feel welcome at the mosque :( (OP)


    salaam,

    hey, i am a revert...of 6 yrs. i dont really like people too much though.
    i have started going to jum'ah for the last 4-5 weeks. but i feel kinda like awkward.

    can someone please reinforce my reasons why i need to integrate into a community??

    please.

    just load up the advice on me.... dont ask too many questions about why i feel this way or what has made me this way or what why who.......

    just load up the advice.... positive reinforcement of why i have to get in with a community.

    jzkhair.

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    Re: i dont feel welcome at the mosque :(

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    format_quote Originally Posted by ragdollcat1982 View Post
    While women are recommended to pray at home, can they be prohibted from attending the mosque? I thought all were welcome ?:confused: Dont mosqu have seperate areas for men and women?
    To be honest I am unsure, but there is a seperate prayer room at the mosque I attend, I presume theres women in there ! I dont know the answer, but I feel that if there is accomadation available then why wouldnt they be

    Edit as didnt see alcurad,s post. Thanks bro I have learnt something
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    i dont feel welcome at the mosque  :(

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    Re: i dont feel welcome at the mosque :(

    format_quote Originally Posted by ragdollcat1982 View Post
    While women are recommended to pray at home, can they be prohibted from attending the mosque? I thought all were welcome ?:confused: Dont mosqu have seperate areas for men and women?
    It's another sad example of culture mixing with religion. In Islam women cannot be prevented from going to the masjid (mosque). If a masjid does not provide a separate area for the women then that is very unfortunate. I've never encountered a masjid that didn't have a women's area, but the do exist unfortunately.
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    Re: i dont feel welcome at the mosque :(

    format_quote Originally Posted by glo View Post
    Is your husband a Muslim too, Jennifer?

    Welcome to LI, by the way.
    yes he is, he is a born muslim,
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    Re: i dont feel welcome at the mosque :(

    I know our local mosque has a separate room for women - but it is rarely used, because so many women prefer to stay at home.

    Interestingly, there is a TV in the corner and as I understand women follow the prayer as lead on the TV, rather than a person standing in the front. Is that common practice?

    Can a woman lead other women in prayer?
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    Re: i dont feel welcome at the mosque :(

    format_quote Originally Posted by rpwelton View Post
    It's another sad example of culture mixing with religion. In Islam women cannot be prevented from going to the masjid (mosque). If a masjid does not provide a separate area for the women then that is very unfortunate. I've never encountered a masjid that didn't have a women's area, but the do exist unfortunately.
    I dont understand why they still cant come even without a seperate area, The women should simply pray behind the men as is custom and if they are having lectures or classes seat men on one side and women on the other, as long as Islamic dress is observed just like encountering each other on the street there should be no reason not to permit women.
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    Re: i dont feel welcome at the mosque :(

    Can women pray behind the men?
    I thought they needed to be separated by a wall or screen.


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    Re: i dont feel welcome at the mosque :(

    format_quote Originally Posted by ragdollcat1982 View Post
    I dont understand why they still cant come even without a seperate area, The women should simply pray behind the men as is custom and if they are having lectures or classes seat men on one side and women on the other, as long as Islamic dress is observed just like encountering each other on the street there should be no reason not to permit women.
    They could; in fact during the time of the Prophet (peace be upon him), there was no separate room for the women; they just prayed in the back.

    However, it appears that the masjid does not want to have the women there at all.
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    Re: i dont feel welcome at the mosque :(

    'Abd Allah bin ‘Umar reported: I heard the Messenger of Allah (SAW) say:

    "Do not prevent your women from going to the mosque when they seek your permission."



    At the time of the prophet, there was no separate praying area. The women would fill the back rows of the room first praying behind the men.
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    Re: i dont feel welcome at the mosque :(

    format_quote Originally Posted by glo View Post
    Can women pray behind the men?
    I thought they needed to be separated by a wall or screen.

    No screen is needed. However, perhaps in this day and age it is better since during non-prayer times (ie, before and after prayer) the men are easily distracted (thus leading them to be looking at the women). I'm not sure what the rulings are, but I do know that there was no barrier during the time of the Prophet (peace be upon him).
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    Re: i dont feel welcome at the mosque :(

    Is there are reason why the women pray behind the men?
    i dont feel welcome at the mosque  :(

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    Re: i dont feel welcome at the mosque :(

    format_quote Originally Posted by glo View Post
    Is there are reason why the women pray behind the men?
    Imagine this: the men pray behind the women. When the women bend over for the prayer, the men's eyes drift towards...

    It's essentially to eliminate distraction and keep the concentration on the prayer and not to get the men all excited during a time of worship.
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    Re: i dont feel welcome at the mosque :(

    format_quote Originally Posted by rpwelton View Post
    They could; in fact during the time of the Prophet (peace be upon him), there was no separate room for the women; they just prayed in the back.

    However, it appears that the masjid does not want to have the women there at all.


    That is just wrong. That is not islamic and I dont understand why people would accept it.
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    Re: i dont feel welcome at the mosque :(

    format_quote Originally Posted by ragdollcat1982 View Post
    That is just wrong. That is not islamic and I dont understand why people would accept it.
    I'm with you on that one; I don't understand it either. I wish everyone would just follow the pure sunnah of the Prophet (peace be upon him).
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    Re: i dont feel welcome at the mosque :(

    format_quote Originally Posted by rpwelton View Post
    Imagine this: the men pray behind the women. When the women bend over for the prayer, the men's eyes drift towards...

    I'll let your imagination take over from there.

    It's essentially to eliminate distraction and keep the concentration on the prayer and not to get the men all excited during a time of worship.
    When you say it like that, it makes sense ...

    Are women less distractable by such things, you think?
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    format_quote Originally Posted by glo View Post
    When you say it like that, it makes sense ...

    Are women less distractable by such things, you think?
    Yes, I believe that to be true (and I think most psychologists would agree).

    I was taking a seminar this past weekend on love and marriage in Islam, and the brothers and sisters each had to come up with their own list of what they most look for in a spouse.

    For the brothers, beauty was number one on the list. For sisters, beauty was probably 3rd or 4th.

    Not to say that women aren't physically attracted to men, but the attraction of a man to the appearance of women is far stronger.
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    format_quote Originally Posted by rpwelton View Post
    Yes, I believe that to be true (and I think most psychologists would agree).

    I was taking a seminar this past weekend on love and marriage in Islam, and the brothers and sisters each had to come up with their own list of what they most look for in a spouse.

    For the brothers, beauty was number one on the list. For sisters, beauty was probably 3rd or 4th.

    Not to say that women aren't physically attracted to men, but the attraction of a man to the appearance of women is far stronger.

    Each sex is wired differntly.
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    Re: i dont feel welcome at the mosque :(


    Bismillahair Rahmaan Naraheem
    I apologize.If my first comment on this thread (1st post) has made you feel worse in the situation you have explained on this thread. It will be hard for me to evaluate the situation without asking a few questions;1)Why do you feel like that?I.E did someone say anything to you?2) Do you feel any better right now?3) Do you have faith in Allah? After you answer these Questions I can the assess the situation and insh'Allah help you feel more comfortable,but just for clearing my doubts,do you feel akward or rejected in your situation you explained to us? I need to know that questions answer because if you feel akward it is just a feeling controled by the Shytaan,though if you feel rejected answer those other three questions to get a better answer insh'Allah.

    Walakum Asalam Warakmatulah Wabarkatuh
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    Re: i dont feel welcome at the mosque :(

    Bro Ghenghis, I have gone through same spasm, please make sure you are NOT depressed, well I was and that's how I was feeling the same way you are.

    Depression is the only disease which lives inside you and you don't even you that you're sick - Please you must go and see a doctor - Thanks and take care
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    Nearly time for Jumm'ah prayers, cant wait, I so love going to pray at mosque now.
    i dont feel welcome at the mosque  :(

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    Re: i dont feel welcome at the mosque :(

    format_quote Originally Posted by ghengis View Post
    whatever happened to the ummah... i never thought islamic people would allow stragglers on the edge of society to exist....

    what happened to welcome... we are one ummah... we feel pain when you get hurt... yeah right....

    i am grateful for all the comments and invitations... but i cant believe people like me exist....

    isolated ones... i bet there are actually loads of us...... this is not good. its a social ill.
    isolation is a western disease.
    that it seems islam has caught..... maybe cos we are living in this west... who knows.

    lonely fragmented individuals that have no home. i think i am a refugee.

    yeah. thats it. i'm a refugee.
    as salaamu 'alaikum,

    I know how you feel. I have been in the same situation. I was an isolated one years back and it is harmful. It keeps you from getting to know people. I remember I used to be so extreme in that I stayed away from Jumah and Eid Salaah. It was a bad time for me, but you must be the upright example of a Muslim. InshaAllaah.
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