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    i dont feel welcome at the mosque :(

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    salaam,

    hey, i am a revert...of 6 yrs. i dont really like people too much though.
    i have started going to jum'ah for the last 4-5 weeks. but i feel kinda like awkward.

    can someone please reinforce my reasons why i need to integrate into a community??

    please.

    just load up the advice on me.... dont ask too many questions about why i feel this way or what has made me this way or what why who.......

    just load up the advice.... positive reinforcement of why i have to get in with a community.

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    Re: i dont feel welcome at the mosque :(



    are there any masjid halaqahs that maybe you could join and get to know the people besides from just at salah times?
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    Re: i dont feel welcome at the mosque :(


    I am sorry that you feel detached from the mosque. But may I ask if you are a male or female ? Maybe you could make a friend after the Friday prayer and start talking in a group. InshAllah this might help.
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    Re: i dont feel welcome at the mosque :(

    i'm a bloke.

    c'mon people!!! positive reinforcement!!!!

    i need it.

    shaitan attacks the lone sheep......... thats a good enough reason to go to the mosque.

    but i need more....

    70 * more prayer blessings too....

    but i am really not wanting to integrate, i dont want to get to know these people. i may be muslim just like them but i feel worlds apart...

    just give me reasons to go. i dont care about socializing.
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    Re: i dont feel welcome at the mosque :(

    format_quote Originally Posted by ghengis View Post
    i'm a bloke.

    c'mon people!!! positive reinforcement!!!!

    i need it.

    shaitan attacks the lone sheep......... thats a good enough reason to go to the mosque.

    but i need more....

    70 * more prayer blessings too....

    but i am really not wanting to integrate, i dont want to get to know these people. i may be muslim just like them but i feel worlds apart...

    just give me reasons to go. i dont care about socializing.
    wr wb

    akhi, you can integrate with your bro and srs right here on the forum.. there is nothing etched in stone that mandates that you must love and integrate with people from your mosque, people are people regardless of their religion.. perhaps you are in an area that is none too friendly, or they don't take kindly to reverts or shy or prefer to keep to themselves etc..

    the possibilities are endless indeed.. Islam and religiosity is a pact a covenant between you and Allah swt not you and the community..
    if you can't change the way these folks view you (and you are not asked to) then change the way you react to their negativity, surely even if they don't appreciate you, then your good intentions will matter to your creator...

    God knows the only Muslim kin I have an can relate to are on this forum, over here I find brothers and sisters so warm and agreeable from all countries and all walks of life, here we have Somalians, and Malaysians, Syrians and Egyptians converts and everything far and in between, we all love one another in Allah swt.. and we don't always get along it is human and natural.. I got to tell you I joined a forum of my mother country last night and I can't wait to get my request answered and get out of there, I don't like the members, their thought processes or their topics..

    they seem shallow, self-absorbed and superficial.. I am sure, I have a premature first impression, but I am definitely more comfortable here than there, so why should I force myself to be amidst people that I have positively nothing in common with simply because there is one small factoid that makes me one of them?

    You are the company you keep, so keep yourself with the best company.. You have a whole umma of 1.8 billion, surely the members of one mosque aren't all there is..

    we're your family for now, and insha'Allah in due time you'll find folks who accept you and whom you share some sort of a niche, just don't push for something that isn't there...

    no Shaitan is going to get you, so long as you hold on to the unbreakable chain (chapter 2 Quran) Allah swt is the best of friends, and the best to delegate your woes to at all times.. and we on this forum are here for you.. so

    aboard, you should try being on this forum during Ramadan as well, I think you'll love it insha'Allah

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    Re: i dont feel welcome at the mosque :(

    gossamer skye.

    i love u. u have made my day. u have spoke words of truth.

    i just wanna go to the mosque look these people in the eye and tell em i love them... they dont even give salaams to people they dont know these days....

    dont u ever question.. what happened??? i am a revert. and islam is not supposed to be like i see it outside... wat went wrong???

    it hurts.
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    Re: i dont feel welcome at the mosque :(

    format_quote Originally Posted by ghengis View Post
    gossamer skye.

    i love u. u have made my day. u have spoke words of truth.

    i just wanna go to the mosque look these people in the eye and tell em i love them... they dont even give salaams to people they dont know these days....

    dont u ever question.. what happened??? i am a revert. and islam is not supposed to be like i see it outside... wat went wrong???

    it hurts.
    bro you're from leicester right?
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    how do u know dude??? u with mi5??? secret service??
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    Re: i dont feel welcome at the mosque :(

    i love u too adill..

    but no. i am embarassed by my statements on this forum so i cant let u introduce me to your friends and make life easy for me.


    i'll make dua for you bro....
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    Re: i dont feel welcome at the mosque :(

    format_quote Originally Posted by ghengis View Post
    how do u know dude??? u with mi5??? secret service??
    nah I remember you mentionin it some time ago , but anyway if you want you can link up with me or some other brothers from this forum who live here in leicester, I've got exams so I might me a while but If you 're cool with it I can pm some other leicester brothers if u want to meet em

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    Re: i dont feel welcome at the mosque :(

    format_quote Originally Posted by ghengis View Post
    i love u too adill..

    but no. i am embarassed by my statements on this forum so i cant let u introduce me to your friends and make life easy for me.


    i'll make dua for you bro....
    bro thats fine if you don't want to, I know what you mean

    but everyones says stupid things at first as well, so no one is going to judge you

    its your choice but if you ever want to later just pm me
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    Re: i dont feel welcome at the mosque :(

    I'd love to meet you and go masjid with you I'm in a similar position lol unfortunately I live in Birmingham
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    Re: i dont feel welcome at the mosque :(

    format_quote Originally Posted by squiggle View Post
    I'd love to meet you and go masjid with you I'm in a similar position lol unfortunately I live in Birmingham
    Bro I'm willing meet any brother from this forum, its just I need to pass my driving test durin summer then I'll be sorted to go wherever, lol you can probably tell how old I am from that
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    Re: i dont feel welcome at the mosque :(

    lol I need to pass my test too in the summer!! I'm so crap at reverse parking and reverse round the bend though

    we'll have to link up sometime though defo if you pass before august I know a wicked 2 day conference that's going to be taking place. We could go to it, people like sheikh salem al amry, asim al hakeem, dr bilal phillips, and yahya ibrahim gonna be there if your interested let me know.

    You could come 2 ghengis
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    Re: i dont feel welcome at the mosque :(

    whatever happened to the ummah... i never thought islamic people would allow stragglers on the edge of society to exist....

    what happened to welcome... we are one ummah... we feel pain when you get hurt... yeah right....

    i am grateful for all the comments and invitations... but i cant believe people like me exist....

    isolated ones... i bet there are actually loads of us...... this is not good. its a social ill.
    isolation is a western disease.
    that it seems islam has caught..... maybe cos we are living in this west... who knows.

    lonely fragmented individuals that have no home. i think i am a refugee.

    yeah. thats it. i'm a refugee.
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    Re: i dont feel welcome at the mosque :(

    say this is very nice of bro Aadil-- Genghis you might really want to take him up on his offer?-- say during Ramadan if you are not quite ready yet? what better time to reconnect with your umma, than on the most holiest of months? It will give time for you to get past your sensitivities and work through some of these emotions and start afresh insha'Allah.. I can't foresee this as a bad thing at all...


    you wore your heart on your sleeve and that isn't something to be ashamed of, it is human..

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    Re: i dont feel welcome at the mosque :(

    ...whoops.... u guys replied before i did... so my reply seems outa place...


    oh well!

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    Re: i dont feel welcome at the mosque :(

    format_quote Originally Posted by ghengis View Post
    whatever happened to the ummah... i never thought islamic people would allow stragglers on the edge of society to exist....

    what happened to welcome... we are one ummah... we feel pain when you get hurt... yeah right....

    i am grateful for all the comments and invitations... but i cant believe people like me exist....

    isolated ones... i bet there are actually loads of us...... this is not good. its a social ill.
    isolation is a western disease.
    that it seems islam has caught..... maybe cos we are living in this west... who knows.

    lonely fragmented individuals that have no home. i think i am a refugee.

    yeah. thats it. i'm a refugee.



    you don't think we all feel like lonely refugees at times? you don't think that even the Prophet PBUH also felt this way?

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    Re: i dont feel welcome at the mosque :(


    It is good you are asking for advice and this alone can help you integrate with community.If you need help the community can help you and vice versa.

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    A Lion who held all the beasts of the surrounding in subjection, and was always in the habit of making raids upon them to snap and kill any of them as he required for his daily food. It lasted very long until the beasts took counsel together and all agreed to deliver him one of their company each day. They thought that it would satisfy the Lion's hunger, and as a result, he would cease to harm them by his continual attacks.

    The Lion was at first unwilling to trust them and seemed not to believe such words-thus he went on by remarking that he would prefer to rely on his effort. But, by being serious on their decision, the beasts succeeded in persuading Lion that he would do well to trust them and accept the free offerings.

    Having carried the suggestion, the beasts continued for sometime to perform their engagement sending each day a certain friend of theirs to the Lion to devour.

    Once it happened to be the turn of a Hare to be delivered up as a victim to the Lion; but before long he requested the others to let him practice device. The friends mocked him, asking how such a silly beast as he could pretend to outwit the Lion. The Hare assured them that the wisdom only belonged to Allah (SWT), and that was He who might choose weak things to confound the strong. In the end they consented to let him try his luck.

    The Hare took slowly his way to the Lion, and found him roaring in anger. In excuse for his being late Hare invented that he along with another Hare had set out together to appear before the Lion, but a strange strong Lion had seized the next Hare and carried him off into his resting place in a ditch. On hearing the pitiful remarks of the Hare the Lion was exceeding wroth, and commanded the Hare to show him the foe who had trespassed on his area. Pretending to be afraid of the second Lion, the Hare got on the present Lion to ride to the destiny upon his back, and directed him to a well. On looking down the well, the Lion saw in the water the reflection of himself and of the Hare on his back. Quite in rage, he thought that it was the strong enemy of his with the stolen Hare; he plunged down into the well to attack him.

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    Since the principle of mutual consultation ("Shura") is mandatory, it is a Muslim's fundamental right, as well as responsibility, to participate in as many aspects of the community's life as possible.
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    Re: i dont feel welcome at the mosque :(

    Assalamu Alaikum,

    I spent many years moping that people at the masjid were excluding me, especially during Ramadan. At iftars, people tended to bunch off based on language group and would chat away in arabic or urdu, leaving me sitting quietly by myself.

    However, one day I decided to stop moping and feeling sorry for myself and just start being friendly. SubhanAllah, it worked! I initiate the salaams, I initiate the hugs and kisses, I initiate the how are you, alhamdulilah, blah blah blah. After awhile, people got to know me and would start the salaams when they saw me.

    I'm not really the most social person in the world either - I prefer the internet to real life most of the time - but even having someone to exchange salams with made going to the masjid a lot happier event.
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