× Register Login What's New! Contact us
Page 2 of 4 First 1 2 3 4 Last
Results 21 to 40 of 79 visibility 16246

Non-muslims sent to hell

  1. #1
    brightness_1
    Junior Member
    Full Member Array bibish's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2009
    Location
    Italy
    Religion
    Unspecified
    Posts
    19
    Threads
    5
    Reputation
    175
    Rep Power
    91
    Rep Ratio
    93
    Likes Ratio
    0

    Unhappy Non-muslims sent to hell (OP)


    Assalamu alaykum wa rahmatullah.

    I am a convert to Islam and I am finding it difficult with the idea that non-muslims will go to hell for eternity. Coming from a non-muslim background - all my family are not muslim - this is very difficult to accept. I can't imagine the people I love ending up in hell and not being in paradise. Most of my friends are also not muslim and are atheists, Christians and Hindus and are the most loveliest people you could imagine. I read that adults who have not heard the message, however, i.e. the testimony of faith, will not be held accountable. What if they hear about islam on the news and never hear the shahada or what if I talk to them about islam in general and just never mention that? Does anyone have any thoughts about this?

    Thank you

  2. #21
    Khaldun's Avatar Full Member
    brightness_1
    Alif Lam Mim.
    star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate
    Join Date
    Dec 2004
    Location
    Student at the Madeenah University
    Gender
    Male
    Religion
    Islam
    Posts
    1,716
    Threads
    67
    Rep Power
    126
    Rep Ratio
    88
    Likes Ratio
    1

    Re: Non-muslims sent to hell

    Report bad ads?

    Hi

    czgibson you have touched on a very important point and that is, even though a person might study islam for ten years or more that does not make him a muslim and the cut off point as you put it, is when a person accepts islam as the ultimate truth and pronounces the shahaada.

    And the fact that the more you read about Islam leads to you becoming further away from accepting it, then that is not something new. I am sure you have read the Qur'aan at some point during the ten years and you might remember the verse:

    And whenever a chapter is revealed [of the Qur'aan], there are some of them who say: Which of you has it strengthened in faith?

    Then as for those who believe, it strengthens them in faith and they rejoice.

    And as for those in whose hearts is a disease
    [refering to them not accepting the truth], it adds disbelief to their disbelief and they die while they are unbelievers.
    Last edited by Khaldun; 10-23-2009 at 04:01 AM.
    Non-muslims sent to hell

    IK 4 1 - Non-muslims sent to hell

    Click it and you wont regret it!
    www.khaldun.wordpress.com
    chat Quote

  3. Report bad ads?
  4. #22
    tresbien's Avatar Full Member
    brightness_1
    Full Member
    star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate
    Join Date
    Dec 2006
    Location
    http://rasoulallah.net/index_english.asp
    Gender
    Male
    Religion
    Islam
    Posts
    471
    Threads
    231
    Rep Power
    107
    Rep Ratio
    49
    Likes Ratio
    3

    Re: Non-muslims sent to hell

    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    All are equal.The poor, the rich , the minister, the president, the employer; employee.All are wearing white clothe and supplicating to THE LORD OF THE WORLDS.
    THE PICTURE IS THE BEST EVIDENCE.
    IN THAT DAY ALL SINS ARE DELETED AND U ARE A NEWBORN
    THERE IS NO GOD BUT ALLAH AND MOHAMED HIS MESSANGER
    http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x3t...-arafat_events
    chat Quote

  5. #23
    OurIslamic's Avatar Full Member
    brightness_1
    IB Senior Member
    star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate
    Join Date
    Oct 2009
    Gender
    Male
    Religion
    Islam
    Posts
    805
    Threads
    40
    Rep Power
    90
    Rep Ratio
    29
    Likes Ratio
    0

    Re: Non-muslims sent to hell

    We don't know exactly who is going to hell or heaven.
    chat Quote

  6. #24
    tresbien's Avatar Full Member
    brightness_1
    Full Member
    star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate
    Join Date
    Dec 2006
    Location
    http://rasoulallah.net/index_english.asp
    Gender
    Male
    Religion
    Islam
    Posts
    471
    Threads
    231
    Rep Power
    107
    Rep Ratio
    49
    Likes Ratio
    3

    Devine message to non muslims

    The Forelock


    Shaikh Abdel Majeed Elzindani said that I was reading the Quranic verse “Let him beware! If he desist not, we will Drag him by the forelock, A lying, sinful forelock” [96-15] the forelock is the forehead. He used to supplicate and ask Allah to reveal the meaning of “A lying, sinful forelock” I meditated about this verse for then years but I remained perplexed. I referred to interpretation books.

    An interpretor says by lying forelock but it has a metaphorically used to point at the lying person himself as he is the source of lying. However, a research prepared by a famous Canadian scientist dealt with the forehead. The scientist was a specialist in the science of brain, desiccation and embryology. He introduced his research in a medical conference held in Cairo. A doctor and his wife were attending that conference. When the wife heard “A lying, sinful forelock” its Arabic transliteration is “Naseyaton Kazibaton Khateaa” The interpretors say, “Naseyato Kazibin Khatein then she inquired about the last “h” and asked why it is missing. I said to myself it is missing “h” which has perplexed me for ten years. When we come back to the research we find that the Canadian scientist stated that it was only since five years that the part of the brain which is directly under the forehead responsible for fabricating lies and mistakes. It also helps the eyes to see and the ears to hear.
    It is also the center which takes decisions: If this part of the brain is cut, then the person will lose his independent will and become incapable of taking decisions. He will also loose control over himself. The Canadian scientist said that it was only since fifty years that we have come to know that it is the part of the brain which is behind the forehead which helps man to take decisions. Then, who is the real power behind taking decisions? We know that it is the human soul which takes decisions.

    It is the souls which sees but the eye is the seeing sense. It is the soul which hears but the ear is the hearing sense. The part of the brain at the forehead takes the decision and it is the quality of out decision which we have taken that affect our intentions and deeds. Therefore addressing and threatening wrong doers the Quran says, “We will drag him by the forelock, A lying, sinful part. Today science advanced and discovered that the “part’ of the brain which is located at the forelock in human being is smaller and weaker in Animals. In animals also this part controls the animals.
    It is the center that helps the animal. Therefore, in another Quranic Aaya Allah says, “There is not a moving creature, but He hath Grasp of its forelock” [11:56]. Scientist found this fact after a careful analysis and studies of the brain. But Quran and before fourteen centuries explained this fact in Quran. The saying of the Prophet Mohammed (PBUH) also confirmed this. He says, “O Allah, I am your servant and the son of your servant, my forelock is under your control” the forelock is the center of control and guidance. Therefore, this center of control and guidance must abide by religion and the reaching of Quran. It has to obey Allah. Therefore, to make it obedient Allah ordered Man to pray a bow down the forelock in every prayer.

    To make sujood as a sign of obedience to Allah. There may be also a close relation between this bowing down of the forelock while we pray has a positive impact on our behavior. It may be behind helping us to adopt a straightforward behavior. Quran says, “And establish regular prayer: for prayer restraints from shameful and unjust deeds” [29:45] Source: “The Age of faith has dawned” By: Shaikh Abdel Majeed Elzindani.




    http://www.science4islam.com/index.a...e&act=da&id=95
    chat Quote

  7. Report bad ads?
  8. #25
    tresbien's Avatar Full Member
    brightness_1
    Full Member
    star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate
    Join Date
    Dec 2006
    Location
    http://rasoulallah.net/index_english.asp
    Gender
    Male
    Religion
    Islam
    Posts
    471
    Threads
    231
    Rep Power
    107
    Rep Ratio
    49
    Likes Ratio
    3

    Re: Non-muslims sent to hell

    how are you?I do not think that Hoopoe is wiser than you.Should we learn from it
    and (Sulayman) said: "What is the matter that I see not the hoopoe Or is he among the absentees'') One day `Abdullah bin `Abbas told a similar story, and among the people was a man from the Khawarij whose name was Nafi` bin Al-Azraq, who often used to raise objections to Ibn `Abbas. He said to him, "Stop, O Ibn `Abbas; you will be defeated (in argument) today!'' Ibn `Abbas said: "Why'' Nafi` said: "You are telling us that the hoopoe can see water beneath the ground, but any boy can put seed in a trap and cover the trap with dirt, and the hoopoe will come and take the seed, so the boy can catch him in the trap.'' Ibn `Abbas said, "If it was not for the fact that this man would go and tell others that he had defeated Ibn `Abbas in argument, I would not even answer.'' Then he said to Nafi`: "Woe to you! When the decree strikes a person, his eyes become blind and he loses all caution.'' Nafi` said: "By Allah I will never dispute with you concerning anything in the Qur'an. ''

    [لأُعَذِّبَنَّهُ عَذَاباً شَدِيداً]

    (I will surely punish him with a severe torment) Al-A`mash said, narrating from Al-Minhal bin `Amr from Sa`id that Ibn `Abbas said: "He meant, by plucking his feathers.'' `Abdullah bin Shaddad said: "By plucking his feathers and exposing him to the sun.'' This was also the view of more than one of the Salaf, that it means plucking his feathers and leaving him exposed to be eaten by ants.

    [أَوْ لاّذْبَحَنَّهُ]

    (or slaughter him,) means, killing him.

    [أَوْ لَيَأْتِيَنِّى بِسُلْطَـنٍ مُّبِينٍ]

    (unless he brings me a clear reason.) i.e., a valid excuse. Sufyan bin `Uyaynah and `Abdullah bin Shaddad said: "When the hoopoe came back, the other birds said to him: "What kept you Sulayman has vowed to shed your blood.'' The hoopoe said: "Did he make any exception [did he say `unless']'' They said, "Yes, he said:

    [لأُعَذِّبَنَّهُ عَذَاباً شَدِيداً أَوْ لاّذْبَحَنَّهُ أَوْ لَيَأْتِيَنِّى بِسُلْطَـنٍ مُّبِينٍ ]

    (I will surely punish him with a severe torment or slaughter him, unless he brings me a clear reason.) The hoopoe said, "Then I am saved.''

    [فَمَكَثَ غَيْرَ بَعِيدٍ فَقَالَ أَحَطتُ بِمَا لَمْ تُحِطْ بِهِ وَجِئْتُكَ مِن سَبَإٍ بِنَبَإٍ يَقِينٍ - إِنِّى وَجَدتُّ امْرَأَةً تَمْلِكُهُمْ وَأُوتِيَتْ مِن كُلِّ شَىْءٍ وَلَهَا عَرْشٌ عَظِيمٌ - وَجَدتُّهَا وَقَوْمَهَا يَسْجُدُونَ لِلشَّمْسِ مِن دُونِ اللَّهِ وَزَيَّنَ لَهُمُ الشَّيْطَـنُ أَعْمَـلَهُمْ فَصَدَّهُمْ عَنِ السَّبِيلِ فَهُمْ لاَ يَهْتَدُونَ - أَلاَّ يَسْجُدُواْ للَّهِ الَّذِى يُخْرِجُ الْخَبْءَ فِى السَّمَـوَتِ وَالاٌّرْضِ وَيَعْلَمُ مَا تُخْفُونَ وَمَا تُعْلِنُونَ - اللَّهُ لاَ إِلَـهَ إِلاَّ هُوَ رَبُّ الْعَرْشِ الْعَظِيمِ ]

    (22. But (the hoopoe) stayed not long, he said: "I have grasped which you have not grasped and I have come to you from Saba' with true news.'') (23. "I found a woman ruling over them, she has been given all things, and she has a great throne.'') (24. "I found her and her people worshipping the sun instead of Allah, and Shaytan has made their deeds fair seeming to them to prevent them from the way, so they have no guidance.'') (25. So they do not prostrate themselves before Allah, Who brings to light what is hidden in the heavens and the earth, and knows what you conceal and what you reveal.) (26. Allah, La ilaha illa Huwa, the Lord of the Supreme Throne!'')


    How the Hoopoe came before Sulayman and told Him about Saba'

    Allah says:

    [فَمَكَثَ غَيْرَ بَعِيدٍ]

    (But (the hoopoe) stayed not long,) meaning, he was absent for only a short time. Then he came and said to Sulayman:

    [أَحَطتُ بِمَا لَمْ تُحِطْ بِهِ]

    (I have grasped which you have not grasped) meaning, `I have come to know something that you and your troops do not know.'

    [وَجِئْتُكَ مِن سَبَإٍ بِنَبَإٍ يَقِينٍ]

    (and I have come to you from Saba' with true news.) meaning, with true and certain news. Saba' (Sheba) refers to Himyar, they were a dynasty in Yemen. Then the hoopoe said:

    [إِنِّى وَجَدتُّ امْرَأَةً تَمْلِكُهُمْ]

    (I found a woman ruling over them,) Al-Hasan Al-Basri said, "This is Bilqis bint Sharahil, the queen of Saba'.'' Allah's saying:

    [وَأُوتِيَتْ مِن كُلِّ شَىْءٍ]

    (she has been given all things,) means, all the conveniences of this world that a powerful monarch could need.

    [وَلَهَا عَرْشٌ عَظِيمٌ]

    (and she has a great throne.) meaning, a tremendous chair adorned with gold and different kinds of jewels and pearls. The historians said, "This throne was in a great, strong palace which was high and firmly constructed. In it there were three hundred and sixty windows on the east side, and a similar number on the west, and it was constructed in such a way that each day when the sun rose it would shine through one window, and when it set it would shine through the opposite window. And the people used to prostrate to the sun morning and evening. This is why the hoopoe said:

    [وَجَدتُّهَا وَقَوْمَهَا يَسْجُدُونَ لِلشَّمْسِ مِن دُونِ اللَّهِ وَزَيَّنَ لَهُمُ الشَّيْطَـنُ أَعْمَـلَهُمْ فَصَدَّهُمْ عَنِ السَّبِيلِ]

    (I found her and her people worshipping the sun instead of Allah, and Shaytan has made their deeds fair seeming to them, and has prevented them from the way,) meaning, from the way of truth,

    [فَهُمْ لاَ يَهْتَدُونَ]

    (so they have no guidance.) Allah's saying:

    [وَزَيَّنَ لَهُمُ الشَّيْطَـنُ أَعْمَـلَهُمْ فَصَدَّهُمْ عَنِ السَّبِيلِ فَهُمْ لاَ يَهْتَدُونَأَلاَّ يَسْجُدُواْ للَّهِ]

    (and Shaytan has made their deeds fair seeming to them, and has prevented them from the way, so they have no guidance, so they do not prostrate themselves before Allah.) They do not know the way of truth, prostrating only before Allah alone and not before anything that He has created, whether heavenly bodies or anything else. This is like the Ayah:

    [وَمِنْ ءَايَـتِهِ الَّيْلُ وَالنَّهَارُ وَالشَّمْسُ وَالْقَمَرُ لاَ تَسْجُدُواْ لِلشَّمْسِ وَلاَ لِلْقَمَرِ وَاسْجُدُواْ لِلَّهِ الَّذِى خَلَقَهُنَّ إِن كُنتُمْ إِيَّاهُ تَعْبُدُونَ ]

    (And from among His signs are the night and the day, and the sun and the moon. Prostrate yourselves not to the sun nor to the moon, but prostrate yourselves to Allah Who created them, if you indeed worship Him.) (41:37)

    [الَّذِى يُخْرِجُ الْخَبْءَ فِى السَّمَـوَتِ وَالاٌّرْضِ]

    (Who brings to light what is hidden in the heavens and the earth,) `Ali bin Abi Talhah reported that Ibn `Abbas said: "He knows everything that is hidden in the heavens and on earth.'' This was also the view of `Ikrimah, Mujahid, Sa`id bin Jubayr, Qatadah and others. His saying:

    [وَيَعْلَمُ مَا تُخْفُونَ وَمَا تُعْلِنُونَ]

    (and knows what you conceal and what you reveal.) means, He knows what His servants say and do in secret, and what they say and do openly. This is like the Ayah:

    [سَوَآءٌ مِّنْكُمْ مَّنْ أَسَرَّ الْقَوْلَ وَمَنْ جَهَرَ بِهِ وَمَنْ هُوَ مُسْتَخْفٍ بِالَّيْلِ وَسَارِبٌ بِالنَّهَارِ ]

    (It is the same whether any of you conceals his speech or declares it openly, whether he be hid by night or goes forth freely by day) (13:10). His saying:

    [اللَّهُ لاَ إِلَـهَ إِلاَّ هُوَ رَبُّ الْعَرْشِ الْعَظِيمِ ]

    (Allah, La ilaha illa Huwa, the Lord of the Supreme Throne!) means, He is the One to be called upon, Allah, He is the One other than Whom there is no god, the Lord of the Supreme Throne, and there is none greater than Him in all of creation. Since the hoopoe was calling to what is good, and for people to worship and prostrate to Allah alone, it would have been forbidden to kill him. Imam Ahmad, Abu Dawud and Ibn Majah recorded that Abu Hurayrah, may Allah be pleased with him, said that the Prophet forbade killing four kinds of animals: ants, bees, hoopoes and the sparrow hawks. Its chain of narration is Sahih.

    [قَالَ سَنَنظُرُ أَصَدَقْتَ أَمْ كُنتَ مِنَ الْكَـذِبِينَ - اذْهَب بِّكِتَابِى هَـذَا فَأَلْقِهْ إِلَيْهِمْ ثُمَّ تَوَلَّ عَنْهُمْ فَانْظُرْ مَاذَا يَرْجِعُونَ - قَالَتْ يأَيُّهَا الْمَلأُ إِنَّى أُلْقِىَ إِلَىَّ كِتَابٌ كَرِيمٌ - إِنَّهُ مِن سُلَيْمَانَ وَإِنَّهُ بِسْمِ اللَّهِ الرَّحْمَـنِ الرَّحِيمِ - أَلاَّ تَعْلُواْ عَلَىَّ وَأْتُونِى مُسْلِمِينَ ]

    (27. (Sulayman) said: "We shall see whether you speak the truth or you are (one) of the liars.'') r(28. "Go you with this letter of mine and deliver it to them, then draw back from them and see what they return.'') (29. She said: "O chiefs! Verily, here is delivered to me a noble letter, '') (30. "Verily, it is from Sulayman, and it (reads): `In the Name of Allah, the Most Gracious, the Most Merciful;') (31. `Be you not exalted against me, but come to me submitting (as Muslims).' '')
    ah tells us what Sulayman said to the hoopoe when he told him about the people of Saba' and their queen:

    [قَالَ سَنَنظُرُ أَصَدَقْتَ أَمْ كُنتَ مِنَ الْكَـذِبِينَ ]

    ((Sulayman) said: "We shall see whether you speak the truth or you are (one) of the liars.'') meaning, `are you telling the truth'

    [أَمْ كُنتَ مِنَ الْكَـذِبِينَ]

    (or you are (one) of the liars.) meaning, `or are you telling a lie in order to save yourself from the threat I made against you'

    [اذْهَب بِّكِتَابِى هَـذَا فَأَلْقِهْ إِلَيْهِمْ ثُمَّ تَوَلَّ عَنْهُمْ فَانْظُرْ مَاذَا يَرْجِعُونَ ]

    (Go you with this letter of mine and deliver it to them then draw back from them and see what they return.) Sulayman wrote a letter to Bilqis and her people and gave it to the hoopoe to deliver. It was said that he carried it on his wings, as is the way with birds, or that he carried it in his beak. He went to their land and found the palace of Bilqis, then he went to her private chambers and threw the letter through a small window, then he stepped to one side out of good manners. Bilqis was amazed and confused when she saw that, then she went and picked up the letter, opened its seal and read it. The letter said:

    [إِنَّهُ مِن سُلَيْمَانَ وَإِنَّهُ بِسْمِ اللَّهِ الرَّحْمَـنِ الرَّحِيمِ - أَلاَّ تَعْلُواْ عَلَىَّ وَأْتُونِى مُسْلِمِينَ ]

    (it is from Sulayman, and it (reads): `In the Name of Allah, the Most Gracious, the Most Merciful; Be you not exalted against me, but come to me submitting (as Muslims).') So she gathered her commanders and ministers and the leaders of her land, and said to them:

    [يأَيُّهَا الْمَلأُ إِنَّى أُلْقِىَ إِلَىَّ كِتَابٌ كَرِيمٌ]

    ("O chiefs! Verily, here is delivered to me a noble letter.'') She described it as such because of the wondrous things she had seen, that it was delivered by a bird who threw it to her, then stood aside out of good manners. This was something that no king could do. Then she read the letter to them:

    [إِنَّهُ مِن سُلَيْمَانَ وَإِنَّهُ بِسْمِ اللَّهِ الرَّحْمَـنِ الرَّحِيمِ - أَلاَّ تَعْلُواْ عَلَىَّ وَأْتُونِى مُسْلِمِينَ ]

    (Verily, it is from Sulayman, and it (reads): `In the Name of Allah, the Most Gracious, the Most Merciful; Be you not exalted against me, but come to me submitting (as Muslims).') Thus they knew that it was from Allah's Prophet Sulayman, upon him be peace, and that they could not match him. This letter was the utmost in brevity and eloquence, coming straight to the point.

    [أَلاَّ تَعْلُواْ عَلَىَّ]

    (Be you not exalted against me,) Qatadah said: "Do not be arrogant with me.

    [وَأْتُونِى مُسْلِمِينَ]

    (but come to me submitting (as Muslims). )'' `Abdur-Rahman bin Zayd bin Aslam said: "Do not refuse or be too arrogant to come to me

    [وَأْتُونِى مُسْلِمِينَ]

    (but come to me submitting (as Muslims).)''

    Bilqis consults with Her Chiefs

    When she read Sulayman's letter to them and consulted with them about this news, she said:

    [يأَيُّهَا الْمَلأ أَفْتُونِى فِى أَمْرِى مَا كُنتُ قَـطِعَةً أَمْراً حَتَّى تَشْهَدُونِ]

    ("O chiefs! Advise me in (this) case of mine. I decide no case till you are present with me.'') meaning, `until you come together and offer me your advice.'

    [قَالُواْ نَحْنُ أُوْلُواْ قُوَّةٍ وَأُولُو بَأْسٍ شَدِيدٍ]

    (They said: "We have great strength, and great ability for war...'') They reminded her of their great numbers, preparedness and strength, then they referred the matter to her and said:

    [وَالاٌّمْرُ إِلَيْكِ فَانظُرِى مَاذَا تَأْمُرِينَ]

    (but it is for you to command; so think over what you will command.) meaning, `we have the power and strength, if you want to go to him and fight him.' The matter is yours to decide, so instruct us as you see fit and we will obey. Ibn `Abbas said: "Bilqis said:

    [إِنَّ الْمُلُوكَ إِذَا دَخَلُواْ قَرْيَةً أَفْسَدُوهَا وَجَعَلُواْ أَعِزَّةَ أَهْلِهَآ أَذِلَّةً]

    (Verily, kings, when they enter a town, they destroy it and make the most honorable amongst its people the lowest.) And Allah said:

    [وَكَذلِكَ يَفْعَلُونَ]

    (And thus they do. ) Then she resorted to peaceful means, seeking a truce and trying to placate Sulayman, and said:

    [وَإِنِّى مُرْسِلَةٌ إِلَيْهِمْ بِهَدِيَّةٍ فَنَاظِرَةٌ بِمَ يَرْجِعُ الْمُرْسَلُونَ ]

    (But verily, I am going to send him a present, and see with what the messengers return.) meaning, `I will send him a gift befitting for one of his status, and will wait and see what his response will be. Perhaps he will accept that and leave us alone, or he will impose a tax which we can pay him every year, so that he will not fight us and wage war against us.' Qatadah said: "May Allah have mercy on her and be pleased with her -- how wise she was as a Muslim and (before that) as an idolator! She understood how gift-giving has a good effect on people.'' Ibn `Abbas and others said: "She said to her people, if he accepts the gift, he is a king, so fight him; but if he does not accept it, he is a Prophet, so follow him.''

    [فَلَمَّا جَآءَ سُلَيْمَانَ قَالَ أَتُمِدُّونَنِ بِمَالٍ فَمَآ ءَاتَـنِى اللَّهُ خَيْرٌ مِّمَّآ ءَاتَـكُمْ بَلْ أَنتُمْ بِهَدِيَّتِكُمْ تَفْرَحُونَ - ارْجِعْ إِلَيْهِمْ فَلَنَأْتِيَنَّهُم بِجُنُودٍ لاَّ قِبَلَ لَهُمْ بِهَا وَلَنُخْرِجَنَّهُم مِّنْهَآ أَذِلَّةً وَهُمْ صَـغِرُونَ ]

    (36. So, when (the messengers with the gift) came to Sulayman, he said: "Will you help me in wealth What Allah has given me is better than that which He has given you! Nay, you rejoice in your gift!'') (37. "Go back to them. We verily, shall come to them with armies that they cannot resist, and we shall drive them out from there in disgrace, and they will be abased

    The Gift and the Response of Sulayman

    More than one of the scholars of Tafsir among the Salaf and others stated that she sent him a huge gift of gold, jewels, pearls and other things. It is apparent that Sulayman, peace be upon him, did not even look at what they brought at all and did not pay any attention to it, but he turned away and said, rebuking them:

    [أَتُمِدُّونَنِ بِمَالٍ]

    ("Will you help me in wealth'') meaning, `are you trying to flatter me with wealth so that I will leave you alone with your Shirk and your kingdom'

    [فَمَآ ءَاتَـنِى اللَّهُ خَيْرٌ مِّمَّآ ءَاتَـكُمْ]

    (What Allah has given me is better than that which He has given you!) means, `what Allah has given to me of power, wealth and troops, is better than that which you have.'

    [بَلْ أَنتُمْ بِهَدِيَّتِكُمْ تَفْرَحُونَ]

    (Nay, you rejoice in your gift!) means, `you are the ones who are influenced by gifts and presents; we will accept nothing from you except Islam or the sword.'

    [ارْجِعْ إِلَيْهِمْ]

    (Go back to them) means, with their gift,

    [فَلَنَأْتِيَنَّهُم بِجُنُودٍ لاَّ قِبَلَ لَهُمْ بِهَا]

    (We verily, shall come to them with armies that they cannot resist,) they have no power to match them or resist them.

    [وَلَنُخْرِجَنَّهُم مِّنْهَآ أَذِلَّةً]

    (and we shall drive them out from there in disgrace,) `we shall drive them out in disgrace from their land.'

    [وَهُمْ صَـغِرُونَ]

    (and they will be abased.) means, humiliated and expelled. When her messengers came back to her with her undelivered gift, and told her what Sulayman said, she and her people paid heed and obeyed him. She came to him with her troops in submission and humility, honoring Sulayman and intending to follow him in Islam. When Sulayman, peace be upon him, realized that they were coming to him, he rejoiced greatly.

    [قَالَ يأَيُّهَا الْمَلأ أَيُّكُمْ يَأْتِينِى بِعَرْشِهَا قَبْلَ أَن يَأْتُونِى مُسْلِمِينَ - قَالَ عِفْرِيتٌ مِّن الْجِنِّ أَنَاْ ءَاتِيكَ بِهِ قَبْلَ أَن تَقُومَ مِن مَّقَامِكَ وَإِنِّى عَلَيْهِ لَقَوِىٌّ أَمِينٌ - قَالَ الَّذِى عِندَهُ عِلْمٌ مِّنَ الْكِتَـبِ أَنَاْ ءَاتِيكَ بِهِ قَبْلَ أَن يَرْتَدَّ إِلَيْكَ طَرْفُكَ فَلَمَّا رَءَاهُ مُسْتَقِرّاً عِندَهُ قَالَ هَـذَا مِن فَضْلِ رَبِّى لِيَبْلُوَنِى أَءَشْكُرُ أَمْ أَكْفُرُ وَمَن شَكَرَ فَإِنَّمَا يَشْكُرُ لِنَفْسِهِ وَمَن كَفَرَ فَإِنَّ رَبِّى غَنِىٌّ كَرِيمٌ ]

    (38. He said: "O chiefs! Which of you can bring me her throne before they come to me surrendering themselves in obedience (as Muslims)'') (39. An `Ifrit from the Jinn said: "I will bring it to you before you rise from your place. And verily, I am indeed strong and trustworthy for such work.'') (40. One with whom was knowledge of the Scripture, said: "I will bring it to you within the twinkling of an eye!'' Then when he saw it placed before him, he said: "This is by the grace of my Lord -- to test me whether I am grateful or ungrateful! And whoever is grateful, truly, his gratitude is for himself; and whoever is ungrateful, certainly my Lord is Rich, Bountiful.'')


    How the Throne of Bilqis was brought in an Instant

    Muhammad bin Ishaq reported from Yazid bin Ruman: "When the messengers returned with word of what Sulayman said, she said: `By Allah, I knew he was more than a king, and that we have no power to match him, and that we can gain nothing by being stubborn with him. So, she sent word to him saying: "I am coming to you with the leaders of my people to see what you will instruct us to do and what you are calling us to of your religion.'' Then she issued commands that her throne, which was made of gold and inlaid with rubies, chrysolite and pearls, should be placed in the innermost of seven rooms, one within the other, and all the doors should be locked. Then she told her deputy whom she was leaving in charge, "Take care of my people and my throne, and do not let anyone approach it or see it until I come back to you.'' Then she set off to meet Sulayman with twelve thousand of her commanders from the leaders of Yemen, under each of whose command were many thousands of men. Sulayman sent the Jinn to bring him news of her progress and route every day and night, then when she drew near, he gathered together the Jinns and humans who were under his control and said:

    [يأَيُّهَا الْمَلأ أَيُّكُمْ يَأْتِينِى بِعَرْشِهَا قَبْلَ أَن يَأْتُونِى مُسْلِمِينَ]

    (O chiefs! Which of you can bring me her throne before they come to me surrendering themselves in obedience (as Muslims)).''

    [قَالَ عِفْرِيتٌ مِّن الْجِنِّ]

    (An `Ifrit from the Jinn said: ) Mujahid said, "A giant Jinn.'' Abu Salih said, "It was as if he was a mountain.''

    [أَنَاْ ءَاتِيكَ بِهِ قَبْلَ أَن تَقُومَ مِن مَّقَامِكَ]

    (I will bring it to you before you rise from your place.) Ibn `Abbas, may Allah be pleased with him, said, "Before you get up from where you are sitting.'' As-Suddi and others said: "He used to sit to pass judgements and rulings over the people, and to eat, from the beginning of the day until noon.''

    [وَإِنِّى عَلَيْهِ لَقَوِىٌّ أَمِينٌ]

    (And verily, I am indeed strong and trustworthy for such work.) Ibn `Abbas said: "Strong enough to carry it and trustworthy with the jewels it contains. Sulayman, upon him be peace, said, "I want it faster than that.'' From this it seems that Sulayman wanted to bring this throne as a demonstration of the greatness of the power and authority that Allah had bestowed upon him and the troops that He had subjugated to him. Power such as had never been given to anyone else, before or since, so that this would furnish proof of his prophethood before Bilqis and her people, because this would be a great and wondrous thing, if he brought her throne as if he were in her country, before they could come to it, although it was hidden and protected by so many locked doors. When Sulayman said, "I want it faster than that,

    [قَالَ الَّذِى عِندَهُ عِلْمٌ مِّنَ الْكِتَـبِ]

    (One with whom was knowledge of the Scripture said: ) Ibn `Abbas said, "This was Asif, the scribe of Sulayman.'' It was also narrated by Muhammad bin Ishaq from Yazid bin Ruman that he was Asif bin Barkhiya' and he was a truthful believer who knew the Greatest Name of Allah. Qatadah said: "He was a believer among the humans, and his name was Asif.''

    [أَنَاْ ءَاتِيكَ بِهِ قَبْلَ أَن يَرْتَدَّ إِلَيْكَ طَرْفُكَ]

    (I will bring it to you within the twinkling of an eye!) Meaning, lift your gaze and look as far as you can, and before you get tired and blink, you will find it before you. Then he got up, performed ablution and prayed to Allah, may He be exalted. Mujahid said: "He said, O Owner of majesty and honor.'' When Sulayman and his chiefs saw it before them,

    [قَالَ هَـذَا مِن فَضْلِ رَبِّى]

    (he said: "This is by the grace of my Lord...'') meaning, `this is one of the blessings which Allah has bestowed upon me.'

    [لِيَبْلُوَنِى أَءَشْكُرُ أَمْ أَكْفُرُ وَمَن شَكَرَ فَإِنَّمَا يَشْكُرُ لِنَفْسِهِ]

    (to test whether I am grateful or ungrateful! And whoever is grateful, truly, his gratitude is for himself This is like the Ayat:

    [مَّنْ عَمِلَ صَـلِحاً فَلِنَفْسِهِ وَمَنْ أَسَآءَ فَعَلَيْهَا]

    (Whosoever does righteous good deed, it is for himself; and whosoever does evil, it is against himself.) (41:46)

    [وَمَنْ عَمِلَ صَـلِحاً فَلاًّنفُسِهِمْ يَمْهَدُونَ]

    (and whosoever does righteous good deed, then such will prepare a good place for themselves.) (30:44).

    [وَمَن كَفَرَ فَإِنَّ رَبِّى غَنِىٌّ كَرِيمٌ]

    (and whoever is ungrateful, certainly my Lord is Rich, Bountiful.) He has no need of His servants or their worship.

    [كَرِيمٌ]

    (Bountiful) He is Bountiful in and of Himself, even if no one were to worship Him. His greatness does not depend on anyone. This is like what Musa said: p

    [إِن تَكْفُرُواْ أَنتُمْ وَمَن فِى الاٌّرْضِ جَمِيعًا فَإِنَّ اللَّهَ لَغَنِىٌّ حَمِيدٌ]

    (If you disbelieve, you and all on earth together, then verily, Allah is Rich, Owner of all praise.) (14:8). It is recorded in Sahih Muslim:

    «يَقُولُ اللهُ تَعَالَى: يَا عِبَادِي لَوْ أَنَّ أَوَّلَكُمْ وَآخِرَكُمْ وَإِنْسَكُمْ وَجِنَّكُمْ كَانُوا عَلَى أَتْقَى قَلْبِ رَجُلٍ مِنْكُمْ مَا زَادَ ذَلِكَ فِي مُلْكِي شَيْئًا. يَا عِبَادِي لَوْ أَنَّ أَوَّلَكُمْ وَآخِرَكُمْ وَإِنْسَكُمْ وَجِنَّكُمْ كَانُوا عَلَى أَفْجَرِ قَلْبِ رَجُلٍ مِنْكُمْ مَا نَقَصَ ذَلِكَ مِنْ مُلْكِي شَيْئًا. يَا عِبَادِي إِنَّمَا هِيَ أَعْمَالُكُمْ أُحْصِيهَا لَكُمْ ثُمَّ أُوَفِّيكُمْ إِيَّاهَا فَمَنْ وَجَدَ خَيْرًا فَلْيَحْمَدِ اللهَ،وَمَنْ وَجَدَ غَيْرَ ذَلِكَ فَلَا يَلُومَنَّ إِلَّا نَفْسَه»

    (Allah, may He be exalted, says: "O My servants, if the first of you and the last of you, mankind and Jinn alike, were all to be as pious as the most pious among you, that would not add to My dominion in the slightest. O My servants, if the first of you and the last of you, mankind and Jinn alike, were all to be as evil as the most evil one among you, that would not detract from My dominion in the slightest. O My servants, these are deeds which I am recording for you, and I will judge you according to them, so whoever finds something good, let him praise Allah, and whoever finds otherwise, let him blame no one but himself.'')

    [قَالَ نَكِّرُواْ لَهَا عَرْشَهَا نَنظُرْ أَتَهْتَدِى أَمْ تَكُونُ مِنَ الَّذِينَ لاَ يَهْتَدُونَ - فَلَمَّا جَآءَتْ قِيلَ أَهَكَذَا عَرْشُكِ قَالَتْ كَأَنَّهُ هُوَ وَأُوتِينَا الْعِلْمَ مِن قَبْلِهَا وَكُنَّا مُسْلِمِينَ - وَصَدَّهَا مَا كَانَت تَّعْبُدُ مِن دُونِ اللَّهِ إِنَّهَا كَانَتْ مِن قَوْمٍ كَـفِرِينَ - قِيلَ لَهَا ادْخُلِى الصَّرْحَ فَلَمَّا رَأَتْهُ حَسِبَتْهُ لُجَّةً وَكَشَفَتْ عَن سَاقَيْهَا قَالَ إِنَّهُ صَرْحٌ مُّمَرَّدٌ مِّن قَوارِيرَ قَالَتْ رَبِّ إِنِّى ظَلَمْتُ نَفْسِى وَأَسْلَمْتُ مَعَ سُلَيْمَـنَ لِلَّهِ رَبِّ الْعَـلَمِينَ ]

    (41. He said: "Disguise her throne for her that we may see whether she will be guided, or she will be one of those not guided.'') (42. So when she came, it was said, "Is your throne like this'' She said: "As though it were the very same.'' And he said, "Knowledge was bestowed on us before her, and we had submitted to Allah (as Muslims).'') (43. And Saddaha that which she used to worship besides Allah has prevented her (from Islam), for she was of a disbelieving people.) (44. It was said to her: "Enter As-Sarh,'' but when she saw it, she thought it was a pool, and she (tucked up her clothes) uncovering her legs. Sulayman said: "Verily, it is a Sarh Mumarrad of Qawarir.'' She said: "My Lord! Verily, I have wronged myself, and I submit, together with Sulayman to Allah, the Lord of all that exits.'')

    http://www.tafsir.com/default.asp?sid=27&tid=38297
    Last edited by tresbien; 10-27-2009 at 09:25 PM.
    chat Quote

  9. #26
    languagemaniac's Avatar Full Member
    brightness_1
    Full Member
    star_rate
    Join Date
    Sep 2009
    Location
    Turkey
    Religion
    Unspecified
    Posts
    28
    Threads
    11
    Rep Power
    89
    Rep Ratio
    18
    Likes Ratio
    0

    Re: Non-muslims sent to hell

    peace all people. I want to say I have become a muslim as well. ı want to share my opinions on this. Islam means submission to only one God. as far as I understand from my experiences and knowledge, one does not need to believe in quran necessarily.the proof is the verse below:

    Allah does not forgive shirk.except shirk , he forgives whoever he wills.Shirk means that you believe only one god but on the other you accept another deity besides Allah.

    On the other hand, atheists too may be forgiven by God.Allah knows best.As far as I understand from quran and hadiths, if one person OBVIOUSLY perceives the truth and rejects the truth trying to hide the truth ( kufr in arabic) then in that case, he/she may be subject to retribution.

    ALLAHU ALEM. ALLAH KNOWS BEST.
    chat Quote

  10. #27
    czgibson's Avatar
    brightness_1
    Account Disabled
    star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate
    Join Date
    Jul 2005
    Gender
    Male
    Religion
    Atheism
    Posts
    3,234
    Threads
    37
    Rep Power
    0
    Rep Ratio
    49
    Likes Ratio
    9

    Re: Non-muslims sent to hell

    Greetings,
    format_quote Originally Posted by Nur-ud-Dean View Post
    1. Are your objections to faith based more upon dislike of the religions you know of, or simple belief that there is no God?
    The belief that there is no god is my main objection to faith. Religion has always seemed to me to be something self-evidently man-made.

    2. Why does such a person as yourself make 10,000 posts on an Islamic forum (ot meant in a negative way, I'm curious)?
    I think you must be looking at my rep points. I haven't reached 3000 posts at the time of writing.

    I've been asked this question before, as you'd expect, and my answer is always the same: I think that the situation the world is in now means it's more important than ever that Muslims and non-Muslims talk to each other. I'm not here because I'm thinking of converting to Islam, so to all the people who've posted dawah material, thank you, I know you mean well, but I'm afraid it's not going to happen.

    Peace
    chat Quote

  11. #28
    Afg's Avatar Full Member
    brightness_1
    Full Member
    star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate
    Join Date
    Jul 2009
    Religion
    Unspecified
    Posts
    216
    Threads
    17
    Rep Power
    90
    Rep Ratio
    46
    Likes Ratio
    0

    Re: Non-muslims sent to hell

    It is strange that despite the many proofs, some still remain the same. We can die any moment, so better to make use of our time before it is too late. Before it is too late, when you will be questioned on that day, and it will be too late to repent. But i know they don't believe in this despite the proofs.
    chat Quote

  12. #29
    Eric H's Avatar
    brightness_1
    IB Oldtimer
    star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate
    Join Date
    Apr 2005
    Location
    uk
    Gender
    Male
    Religion
    Christianity
    Posts
    3,817
    Threads
    34
    Rep Power
    0
    Rep Ratio
    135
    Likes Ratio
    78

    Re: Non-muslims sent to hell

    Greetings and peace be with you Thinker;

    This is one main of the reasons why I rejected Catholicism

    That is unjust and God cannot be unjust.
    This reminds me of a joke our priest told us recently.

    A Hindu goes up to heaven, and St. Peter said, my friend I will show you around all the mansions were every one now lives.

    As they walked St Peter said, this is the mansion were all the Muslims live, further on he said, this is were all the agnostics live. St. Peter warned the Hindu, when we walk past the next mansion we must duck down behind the wall and keep quiet.

    Why said the Hindu?

    St. Peter replied, the Catholics live in that mansion, and they think they are the only ones in heaven…………

    None of us can comprehend how God will judge every individual. Sometimes I feel we base our own human nature on how we believe God judges, if we believe God hates some group, then we can hate them.

    If we believe that God can be merciful to all people then we should be merciful to all people also, that’s a scary challenge.

    In the spirit of praying for justice for all people

    Eric
    Non-muslims sent to hell

    You will never look into the eyes of anyone who does not matter to God.
    chat Quote

  13. Report bad ads?
  14. #30
    Eric H's Avatar
    brightness_1
    IB Oldtimer
    star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate
    Join Date
    Apr 2005
    Location
    uk
    Gender
    Male
    Religion
    Christianity
    Posts
    3,817
    Threads
    34
    Rep Power
    0
    Rep Ratio
    135
    Likes Ratio
    78

    Re: Non-muslims sent to hell

    Greetings and peace be with you czgibson;

    I think that the situation the world is in now means it's more important than ever that Muslims and non-Muslims talk to each other
    I agree with you totally, but I feel the problem is human nature, not God. We often confuse religion with God, and I often feel that many of us do not bring glory to God, in the way we treat each other.

    I have just come back from Jerusalem and hope to start a thread soon, ‘Searching for God in Jerusalem’ There are some sites that are sacred to all three Abrahamic religions, and as you can imagine, this causes us all problems.

    In the spirit of searching for God

    Eric
    Non-muslims sent to hell

    You will never look into the eyes of anyone who does not matter to God.
    chat Quote

  15. #31
    muslimahpoet's Avatar Limited Member
    brightness_1
    Limited Member
    star_rate star_rate
    Join Date
    Aug 2009
    Religion
    Unspecified
    Posts
    6
    Threads
    3
    Rep Power
    0
    Rep Ratio
    225
    Likes Ratio
    0

    Re: Non-muslims sent to hell

    Salam Alaikum,

    One thing a sister once told me that as a convert I have held very dear to heart is "Follow what you feel is right inside not what other's tell you... it's what is inside that guided you to Islam, it will guide you along the right path of Islam if you let it." Keep in mind that their are over 70 something sects of Muslims... only 1 will go to Jennah so all of these Muslims who claim this or that... what are their words really worth? Don't let what people say get to you, Always ask for Quranic verses and hadith that are 100% true to support it or else tell them to shut up and tune them out and don't read what they type... it's what is best for a convert or you will go mad trying to sort threw those who where born Muslim, claim they know it all yet are of the worst of them... Also keep in mind that Allah is the judge, not man and sometimes it is one of those things that only Allah can judge... for example my great grandmother died Christian yet her teachings to me is what made me so comfortable with Islam... so was she some how a Muslim inside but just lacked knowledge of Islam? I would like to think so but Allah is her judge, if I had my way she would be in Jennah as she was the nicest and best of people who gave to charity, fed hungry mouths from her garden, gave money to poor, prayed to God and did not do bad things although was not perfect... but if Allah chooses for some reason to send this woman who I dearly love to the hell, then their must be something in her evil that my love for her would not have allowed me to see and I have to trust Allah to be the rightful judge of her. So really, we have this Arabic phrase "Allah Alim" only Allah knows... that’s what I go by on this issue... but I am also a convert and still seeking education so just take this as advice and I hope it is good advice.

    Best hopes for you and Congrats on your conversion to Islam!!!
    Heather


    format_quote Originally Posted by bibish View Post
    Assalamu alaykum wa rahmatullah.

    I am a convert to Islam and I am finding it difficult with the idea that non-muslims will go to hell for eternity. Coming from a non-muslim background - all my family are not muslim - this is very difficult to accept. I can't imagine the people I love ending up in hell and not being in paradise. Most of my friends are also not muslim and are atheists, Christians and Hindus and are the most loveliest people you could imagine. I read that adults who have not heard the message, however, i.e. the testimony of faith, will not be held accountable. What if they hear about islam on the news and never hear the shahada or what if I talk to them about islam in general and just never mention that? Does anyone have any thoughts about this?

    Thank you
    chat Quote

  16. #32
    JaffaCake's Avatar
    brightness_1
    Account Disabled
    star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate
    Join Date
    Sep 2009
    Religion
    Unspecified
    Posts
    99
    Threads
    0
    Rep Power
    0
    Rep Ratio
    37
    Likes Ratio
    0

    Re: Non-muslims sent to hell

    format_quote Originally Posted by bibish View Post
    I am a convert to Islam and I am finding it difficult with the idea that non-muslims will go to hell for eternity. Coming from a non-muslim background - all my family are not muslim - this is very difficult to accept. I can't imagine the people I love ending up in hell and not being in paradise.
    This was always going to be a problem wasn't it?

    If God really exist and has some kind of heaven/hell system, someone you love was always going to lose out regardless of whether you follow Islam, Catholicism or Asatru. If God exists and has a set of rules that he expects you to follow in the form of a religion, then only one of the religions can be true (or none, perhaps we don't yet know the real rules or they were lost). At best, 25% of humanity get a reasonable chance of paradise, and the rest must either get a good review or spend all eternity having their skin burnt off repeatedly.

    On top of this you might have a dilemma related to the previous discussion about 'receiving' the message.

    If you believe sincerely that Islam is the one true divine religion, you would obviously want to share that with the people you love. Therefore, you try to give your family the correct message in the hope that they will convert, but if they do not accept it you have practically guaranteed their fate in hell.
    chat Quote

  17. #33
    glo's Avatar Full Member
    brightness_1
    IB Oldskool
    star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate
    Join Date
    Apr 2006
    Location
    England
    Gender
    Female
    Religion
    Christianity
    Posts
    8,472
    Threads
    395
    Rep Power
    148
    Rep Ratio
    73
    Likes Ratio
    18

    Re: Non-muslims sent to hell

    format_quote Originally Posted by JaffaCake View Post

    If you believe sincerely that Islam is the one true divine religion, you would obviously want to share that with the people you love. Therefore, you try to give your family the correct message in the hope that they will convert, but if they do not accept it you have practically guaranteed their fate in hell.
    You seem to be suggesting that bibish is playing an active part in condemning her non-Muslim friends and family members to hell. If that's what you are implying, then I disagree with you.
    Bibish has no active part in this.

    If the Islamic (or any other) human understanding of hell is true; and if it is really how God has destined it to be; and if God is all-knowing and all-powerful, then nothing bibish says, does or believes will change it.

    I am sorry that bibish is struggling with this concept. Many believers do.
    I don't think adding to her fear and guilt is going to be helpful to anybody.
    Non-muslims sent to hell

    Peace
    glocandle ani 1 - Non-muslims sent to hell

    Here I stand.
    I can do no other.
    May God help me.
    Amen.

    Come, let us worship and bow down •
    and kneel before the Lord our Maker

    [Psalm 95]

    chat Quote

  18. #34
    Raphael's Avatar Full Member
    brightness_1
    Full Member
    star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate
    Join Date
    Oct 2009
    Location
    Orbiting the Earth, just observing
    Religion
    Unspecified
    Posts
    149
    Threads
    3
    Rep Power
    89
    Rep Ratio
    117
    Likes Ratio
    0

    Re: Non-muslims sent to hell

    format_quote Originally Posted by tresbien View Post
    czgibson and thinker
    Seek refuge in ALLAH from satan.Raise u hand and supplicate to him with u heart for guidance.Say to him ALLAH open my breast to u.I am weak and confused.Do not let me down.He will not fail you.He is the hearer and seer.

    Funnily enough I heard a Christian guy say words to this effect (replace Allah with Jesus), before his "miraculous" conversion to Christianity!
    Last edited by Raphael; 10-29-2009 at 11:26 PM.
    chat Quote

  19. Report bad ads?
  20. #35
    tresbien's Avatar Full Member
    brightness_1
    Full Member
    star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate
    Join Date
    Dec 2006
    Location
    http://rasoulallah.net/index_english.asp
    Gender
    Male
    Religion
    Islam
    Posts
    471
    Threads
    231
    Rep Power
    107
    Rep Ratio
    49
    Likes Ratio
    3

    Re: Non-muslims sent to hell

    chat Quote

  21. #36
    tresbien's Avatar Full Member
    brightness_1
    Full Member
    star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate
    Join Date
    Dec 2006
    Location
    http://rasoulallah.net/index_english.asp
    Gender
    Male
    Religion
    Islam
    Posts
    471
    Threads
    231
    Rep Power
    107
    Rep Ratio
    49
    Likes Ratio
    3

    Re: Non-muslims sent to hell

    =Raphael;
    The answers of these questions is at the link below

    • Who goes to heaven?.
    • The people of Paradise will remember the life of this world.
    • Is there anyone in Paradise now?.
    • Why are some things forbidden in this world when they are permitted in Paradise?.
    • Will children who die young go to Paradise or Hell?.
    • If a woman marries more than one husband, which one will she be with in Paradise?.
    • Names of Hell.
    • Will there be animals in Paradise? .
    • Paradise and Hell exist and they will abide so long as Allaah wills them to abide.
    • The meaning of the verse, “They will dwell therein for all the time that the heavens and the earth endure, except as your Lord wills” [Hood 11:107].
    • Why will there be more women in Hell than men? .
    • What is the ruling on drawing artistic impressions of Paradise.
    • How old will people be in Paradise? .
    • Objection to the fact that a man will have hoor ‘iyn who will share her husband with her .
    • Hell will never cease to exist and neither will its people.
    • The degrees and levels of Paradise and Hell, and the deeds that take one to them .
    • The people of Hell will abide therein forever .
    • What will happen to a woman in Paradise if her husband is one of the people of the Fire?.
    • Description of al-hoor al-‘iyn in the Qur’aan and Sunnah.
    • How can Iblees be punished with fire when he has been created from it?.
    • Is Arabic the language of the people of Paradise?.
    • The people of Paradise are free from deformities and physical faults.

    http://www.islam-qa.com/en/cat/2020
    chat Quote

  22. #37
    Raphael's Avatar Full Member
    brightness_1
    Full Member
    star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate
    Join Date
    Oct 2009
    Location
    Orbiting the Earth, just observing
    Religion
    Unspecified
    Posts
    149
    Threads
    3
    Rep Power
    89
    Rep Ratio
    117
    Likes Ratio
    0

    Re: Non-muslims sent to hell

    Lol JazakAllah brother for the link, but...how shall I say this, I take Islamqa with a pinch of salt, or should I say bucket?! :X
    chat Quote

  23. #38
    czgibson's Avatar
    brightness_1
    Account Disabled
    star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate
    Join Date
    Jul 2005
    Gender
    Male
    Religion
    Atheism
    Posts
    3,234
    Threads
    37
    Rep Power
    0
    Rep Ratio
    49
    Likes Ratio
    9

    Re: Non-muslims sent to hell

    Greetings,
    format_quote Originally Posted by tresbien View Post
    I'm not sure why you've brought this site up.

    Whatever the reason, 'beautiful' definitely isn't a word I would use to describe it.

    Peace
    chat Quote

  24. #39
    OurIslamic's Avatar Full Member
    brightness_1
    IB Senior Member
    star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate
    Join Date
    Oct 2009
    Gender
    Male
    Religion
    Islam
    Posts
    805
    Threads
    40
    Rep Power
    90
    Rep Ratio
    29
    Likes Ratio
    0

    Re: Non-muslims sent to hell

    I beleive in Allah.
    chat Quote

  25. Report bad ads?
  26. #40
    JaffaCake's Avatar
    brightness_1
    Account Disabled
    star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate
    Join Date
    Sep 2009
    Religion
    Unspecified
    Posts
    99
    Threads
    0
    Rep Power
    0
    Rep Ratio
    37
    Likes Ratio
    0

    Re: Non-muslims sent to hell

    format_quote Originally Posted by glo View Post
    You seem to be suggesting that bibish is playing an active part in condemning her non-Muslim friends and family members to hell. If that's what you are implying, then I disagree with you.
    Bibish has no active part in this.

    If the Islamic (or any other) human understanding of hell is true; and if it is really how God has destined it to be; and if God is all-knowing and all-powerful, then nothing bibish says, does or believes will change it.
    Going by what has previously been stated in this thread, and information elsewhere, people are only excused the hellfire if they have not received the true message.

    From On the validity of all religions in the thought of ibn Al-'Arabi and Emir 'Abd al-Qadir: a letter to `Abd al-Matin:
    In Ghazali's view, such people are excused until after they have had an opportunity to learn the undistorted truth about Islam (Ghazali: "Faysal al-tafriqa," Majmu'a rasa'il al-Imam al-Ghazali, 3.96). This of course does not alter our own obligation as Muslims to reach them with the da'wa.
    Bibish, assuming that she intends to be a good Muslim (otherwise there's no point in us having this discussion) will be passing on the undistorted truth about Islam. This both for personal and religious reasons, 1. she wants her family to go to Paradise and 2. da'wa is an obligation as stated above.
    In either case, Allah's mercy exists, though for non-Muslims unreached by the message, it is a question of divine amnesty for their ignorance, not a confirmation of their religions validity. It is worth knowing the difference between these two things, for one's eternal fate depends on it.
    If bibish does nothing and her family die as unbelievers having not received the message, they are granted amnesty (or judged some other way).

    If bibish passes on the correct message in an attempt to get her family to Paradise, but they reject it, then they go to hell.

    Of course she could choose the former and let them play out their lives however they want and things might turn out ok.
    format_quote Originally Posted by glo View Post
    I don't think adding to her fear and guilt is going to be helpful to anybody.
    I think it would be productive if more people pondered on how religion puts you in the position of making choices based on fear and guilt.
    chat Quote


  27. Hide
Page 2 of 4 First 1 2 3 4 Last
Hey there! Non-muslims sent to hell Looks like you're enjoying the discussion, but you're not signed up for an account.

When you create an account, we remember exactly what you've read, so you always come right back where you left off. You also get notifications, here and via email, whenever new posts are made. And you can like posts and share your thoughts. Non-muslims sent to hell
Sign Up

Similar Threads

  1. Is it possible to be dragged to hell by non-muslims?
    By Samiun in forum Clarifications about Islam
    Replies: 5
    Last Post: 03-18-2012, 02:58 PM
  2. Do righteous non-muslims go to hell?
    By qrazaque in forum Miscellaneous
    Replies: 8
    Last Post: 04-18-2011, 12:17 AM
  3. do all non-Muslims go to hell?
    By shahrazad in forum Clarifications about Islam
    Replies: 63
    Last Post: 08-25-2008, 05:33 PM
  4. the point where there shall be no muslims in hell
    By noahs_arc in forum Miscellaneous
    Replies: 1
    Last Post: 05-12-2007, 10:56 PM
  5. Non Muslims all in Hell?
    By ummzayd in forum Miscellaneous
    Replies: 6
    Last Post: 04-22-2007, 05:17 PM

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  
create