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    I am an american muslim and recently decided to revert. I have since had a hard time with some things, such as alcohol consumption, pork products and marijuana.

    Sometimes I drink deliberately to get intoxicated but typically I dont drink to get drunk, I just have a drink at night before I go to sleep to calm my nerves and really allow for a better sleep. I have a very demanding life and I have done this for years, I have tried not to and have done well at it for the most part, but after a particularly stressful day I often find the temptation to be to much.

    As far as pork products go, my wife likes to make bacon for my daughter on weekends with her pancakes. Since I have taken part in saturday and sunday breakfast since we have been married the smell is incredibly tempting and i have had a piece from time to time. I am always sorry afterward, but at the time I sometimes give in. I know that I must stop and I know that I will, I just feel bad because the temptation gets to me.

    As far as marijuana goes it really isnt that big of a deal. I only do it maybe a couple times a year and it is more for relaxation than anything. My real question about it is, is it even haram? It isnt cancerous and can even prove to be good for you in some cases. In the very little that I have looked into this it seems to have mixed responses typically by people who use it or have used it and can testify that it isnt really a harmful drug. Others say if it changes your state of mind it is haram. Just wanted to get some opinions on this.

    I know a lot of this is probably because of the western lifestyle and the daily influences that I encounter and I know that isnt an excuse and I know I should strive to do better, but I wanted to know if this is something that I could go to hell for.... I also wanted to know if there was anyone else like this on this forum that may have some tips or methods that they used to retract from these sorts of things. Any help is appreciated.
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    Re: ?'s about haram things

    Well the alcohol and pork I know for sure are haram and are not acceptable. It's all a test that you must pass to show you are submissive to Allah. You are being tempted by these items and you must find a way to resist the temptation of these items.

    As far as the marijuana I don't know if it's haram so I'll wait to see if anyone knows.
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    Re: ?'s about haram things

    Welcome to Islam!

    Alcohol is a serious serious thing. In a hadith related by Al-Tirmidhi:

    Allah's Messenger (saws) said, "If anyone drinks wine Allah will not accept prayer from him for forty days, but if he repents Allah will forgive him. If he repeats the offence Allah will not accept prayer from him for forty days, but if he repents Allah will forgive him. If he again repeats the offence Allah will not accept prayer from him for forty days, but if he repents Allah will forgive him. If he repeats it a fourth time Allah will not accept prayer from him for forty days, and if he repents Allah will not forgive him, but will give him to drink of the river of the fluid flowing from the inhabitants of Hell."

    [Tirmidhi transmitted it, and Nasa'i, Ibn Majah and Darimi transmitted it on the authority of Abdullah ibn Amr.]

    Now that's some seriously scary stuff.

    Know the Nike saying? Just (don't!) do it! Get rid of the alcohol all together, or if your wife objects, lock it up and give her the only key. When the stress of the day is too much, turn to Allah (swt). Make wudu, pray a few rakats of prayer, and get yourself a new favorite drink/destresser. If it's more of a security blanket type thing, you should be able to slip in something else that will sooth you. At middle eastern groccery stores, they sell drinks like brill and fayrooz, with are non alcoholic malt beverages.



    As for the bacon...try turkey or beef bacon. I often lament that I'm sorry that I didn't have a ham sandwich before I converted When the urge strikes, cook yourself up some, and wa'la, problem solved.


    And marijuana, yup, I'm in the camp that this is haram. I've never seen a valid scholar say that it's halal (permitted). It's an intoxicant. Bukhari records that:

    The Messenger of Allah (saws) said: “Every intoxicant is prohibited.”




    It can be tough giving up these things that we were used to, but in the end, it's all about Allah (swt). We want to be in submission to Him, so we play by His rules.

    And if you slip up, there's always tawbah. Make 2 rakat of salat, then beg God for forgiveness and guidance.
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    Re: ?'s about haram things


    yes that's really haram...but don't worry.. Allah will help you if u help your self to stay away from those products, insya Allah :sunny:

    don't afraid to make a step forward to be a better muslim...i know that must be hard, but you can do it like the other reverts..go to local masjid and have new muslim friends, read quran and do prayer at the appropriate time...

    Allah will always help u and make it easy for you...

    by study more about islam and have muslim friends, make u easier to stay away from that haram things...tell ure wife that something happened to your heart and u embrace Islam as your religion...

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    Re: ?'s about haram things

    format_quote Originally Posted by JeffX View Post
    Well the alcohol and pork I know for sure are haram and are not acceptable. It's all a test that you must pass to show you are submissive to Allah. You are being tempted by these items and you must find a way to resist the temptation of these items.

    As far as the marijuana I don't know if it's haram so I'll wait to see if anyone knows.
    yes, it's haram.
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    Re: ?'s about haram things

    Sometimes changes take a bit of time and a lot of effort. I am not a revert, but I did make some changes in the last 2 years two of which were giving up alcohol and porc. Granted, I was never a big drinker, I used the addiction that many of my cousins are afflicted by as a main reason not to drink. And from time to time, I think of having a drink, but I see it really isn't worth the price at all. Instead of having an alcoholic beverage at the end of the night, why not opt for a cup of tea to relax (if you really need to drink something)? Or as someone else mentionned: pray. Read, go out for a walk with your wife and child, take up a relaxing hobby, etc.

    As for the porc, as someone else mentionned, try out turkey bacon (I frind it tastes better than the original bacon). Unfortunately, I can't give you any tips on ham - I always detested the stuff.

    As for marijuana... I think it might be haram, but I'm not an expert and I was never a fan of it so I can't give you any advice there. Sorry.
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    Re: ?'s about haram things

    Asalamo Alikom

    Allah says in his Glorious Book,

    ((Allah will not change the condition of people as long as they do not change their state themselves))

    Surat Ar_Rad,aya (11)

    if you walk to Allah my dear brother Allah

    will run to you.

    you have to work harder and harder

    to get rid of all of forbidden things

    try your best brother

    and Allah will help you if you help your self

    to stay away from those products, inshaa

    Allah..like our brother adeeb says.

    the worship of Allah is the cure

    to control yourself brother.

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    Re: ?'s about haram things

    hey,

    You seem to be using drink as an emotional crutch. Like, you have too much stresses and strains in the day you feel you need the drink to help you rest.

    Busy life?

    Buy a book called 'The 7 Habits of Highly Effective People' with over 15 million copies sold, it cant be wrong. Im in the middle of reding it and its really good, it tells you how to be a better person on the inside and how to manage your time and priorities and improve your character. This is not a 'quick-fix' book and it explains how a 'quick-fix' will never work like all those other books out there.

    You should check it out, it will help you a lot.
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    Re: ?'s about haram things

    yes everything you are saying is haram.as a muslim we are not supose to drink or eat haram stuff.bacon you can get hallal too.you should take out everything haram from your home.
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    Re: ?'s about haram things

    format_quote Originally Posted by Samkurd View Post
    hey,

    You seem to be using drink as an emotional crutch. Like, you have too much stresses and strains in the day you feel you need the drink to help you rest.

    Busy life?

    Buy a book called 'The 7 Habits of Highly Effective People' with over 15 million copies sold, it cant be wrong. Im in the middle of reding it and its really good, it tells you how to be a better person on the inside and how to manage your time and priorities and improve your character. This is not a 'quick-fix' book and it explains how a 'quick-fix' will never work like all those other books out there.

    You should check it out, it will help you a lot.
    I had to read that book when I was senior and I still think it was a load of rubbish. It was completely unrealistic.
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    Re: ?'s about haram things

    As Salaam Alaykum Wa Rahmatullahi Wa Barakatuhu,

    In the name of Allah, Most Compassionate, Most Merciful,

    Drugs such as marijuana, cocaine, opium, etc are all unlawful (haram) due to the various harms connected with them.

    Marijuana is a psychoactive drug made from the leaves of the cannabis plant. It is usually smoked but can also be eaten. It is the most commonly used and considered to be a soft drug.

    Marijuana intoxicates a person the same way alcohol does. It weakens one’s senses and the capability to reflect. Scientific research has proven that, marijuana has much harm, and could lead one in becoming an addict to other hard drugs.

    The Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give him peace) said: “Every intoxicant is prohibited.” Sahih al-Bukhari, no. 4088)

    And he (Allah bless him & give him peace) also said:

    “That which intoxicates in large quantities is prohibited in small quantities.” (Abu Dawud, Tirmidhi, Ibn Majah, and others, with a sound chain of narrators)

    So here there is no need to doubt the illicit nature of such modern narcotics like cocaine, heroine, etc. or such soft drugs that are available in the club scenes, places, unfortunately, visited frequently by Muslim youth in the West.

    Therefore, explain to you friend that, all drugs are Haram due to the fact that they intoxicate a person in one way or another. One looses the ability to think and reflect in a proper manner, and that is intoxication. If you have a local scholar, seek his advice and take your friend to him.

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    Re: ?'s about haram things

    To back up everything everyone has said, the things that you have mentioned are indeed haram. I can't say I can empathise, as a non-drinking vegetarian when I reverted, but sometimes changes do take time, and it's obvious from making this topic that you want to lead a fully halalife Alhamdulillah.
    The only advice that can really be given is for you to make an effort to be proactive on these areas, and keep in mind what is most important, this will make it easier inshaAllah. Make lots of du'a.
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    u know why was pork haraam to bani-israel!!! despite having divided hoof....... coz it didn't chew the cud while other cattle chew cud.
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    A reason was given by God for prohibition of pork:-

    LEV 11:7 And the swine, though he divide the hoof, and be cloven-footed, yet he cheweth not the cud; he is unclean to you.
    DEUT 14:8 And the swine, because it divideth the hoof, yet cheweth not the cud, it is unclean unto you: ye shall not eat of their flesh, nor touch their dead carcass.

    So my question is has pigs started to chew the cud now???? If not then reason to ban them is still there. So pork is haraam since old times. Even before Prophet Muhammad(saw). It's only Paul's inventions that he declared it halaal.


    MK 5:12 And all the devils besought him, saying, Send us into the swine, that we may enter into them
    MK 5:13 And forthwith Jesus gave them leave. And the unclean spirits went out, and entered into the swine: and the herd ran violently down a steep place into the sea, (they were about two thousand) and were choked in the sea.

    = = = = = = = = = =
    as far as Marjuana is concerned ; ALL intoxicants r haraam.
    = = = = = = = = = = =
    & for Alcohol, even if u don't look from religious angle , from medical angle it is a well known "Carcinogen"(cancer causing agent) besides other side-effects. Do u want cancer for urself???!!!
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    Re: ?'s about haram things

    Greetings,

    To the original poster: You must do what you think is right. Take the advice of your fellows, decide your own course and make it happen.

    format_quote Originally Posted by RighteousLady View Post
    Drugs such as marijuana, cocaine, opium, etc are all unlawful (haram) due to the various harms connected with them.
    I've seen this before and it's hardly surprising, given this:
    The Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give him peace) said: “Every intoxicant is prohibited.” Sahih al-Bukhari, no. 4088)

    Does that include coffee, sleeping pills or aspirin, I wonder? If anyone's got any links to rulings on this, please let us know.

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    Re: ?'s about haram things

    necessity overrides prohibition !!!!!!!
    I am sure you can find many rulings throughout the forum.. there is also suret Al-baqara or simply read below!
    BTW, coffee doesn't do away with your mind, neither does ASA, can shut down your electron transport chain in an OD and cause anion gap acidosis but neither can be compared to Alcohol save for its elemination by zero-order kinetics!
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    Introduction:

    Physically and intellectually man is not the same as a million years ago. This "improvement" in the human person has come from within over a period of time and not as a result of any outside biotechnical intervention. So, the question is what is the need now? The fine line between what can be done technically and what should be done morally is the reason for biomedical ethics. What is the nature of man and what is his relationship with his creator and his environment? Whose interest (man, God and environment) are we as scientists and physicians to guard? What are the rights of the unborn and who protects those rights? While seeking medical treatment for infertility and reconstructive surgery for a malformation or genetic manipulation for a genetic disease will be appropriate and recommended, is it appropriate to create a super healthy, super human person with genetic manipulation? If so, then are we embarking on the path of ethnic cleansing of humans of lesser ability and is it appropriate to discriminate? In this paper such questions and concerns are discussed from an Islamic perspective. What is Enhancement technology?

    Enhancement Technologies are the science and art of externally applied procedures aimed improving human appearance, behavior, or capacities. They can be classified as physical, intellectual and behavioral. They include manipulation of the immune system (vaccines), age related medical conditions such as BPH, Osteoporosis, Presbyopia, then use of Growth Hormone for short stature children as well as cosmetic surgery. Intellectual manipulation includes use of drugs to improve memory, mental concentration and cognitive ability in senile dementia. Behavior modification by psychotropic drugs to modify aggressive behavior or castration for habitual sex offenders can also be classified in the same category.

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    (1). This verse implies that God is a creator and He created us for a purpose. One of the purposes that are described is as a test as to who is best in conduct so that He can make a decision for the life thereafter. What is the position of man in the scheme of God's creation? First we are seen as a trustee of God's own earth. This is described in Quran, "and when the Lord said to the angle, low I am about to place a vice-regent in the earth"
    (2). This implied that we would carry the mission of God onto this earth. The trustee will carry the honor of the entity which entrusted him with the task. Therefore, mankind was honored. Quran 1 "we have honored the progeny of Adam"
    (3). We also have to remember is the distinction between humans and angels and the moral choices that humans have to face. The angels, in our belief, have no free will and they will follow the commands that they have been ordered. On the other hand, humans will have a choice to believe in God or not to believe in God and to follow His commands or not to follow His commands. Therefore, after knowing this choice, if man decides to believe in God and follow His commands, it is for that reason he becomes "best of the creation"


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    The Role of Medicine: How do we apply the nature of man to medicine? The great physician of the past, Avicenna also known in the Muslim world as Ibn Sinna, said "medicine is the preservation of health and restoring it when it is lost". Describing the two components of medical practice, one is preventative and the other is reconstructive. On the other hand, another great Muslim physician, Razes, also known as Abu Bakar Al-Razi, said "medicine is the science which keeps and promotes health when it is there and restores it when it is lost". Prophet Mohammad (pbuh) has said that "O, servant of God, seek remedies for that who malady has already created its cure and its remedy." (5) The implication of this is that for every illness there is a possible remedy that we physicians and scientists must work to find a cure, thus, encouraging us to do ongoing research.

    The Objectives and Sources of the Islamic Laws (Shariah): There are three sources of Islamic jurisprudence, (sharia). One is the glorious Quran which are divine revelations. The second is the traditions of the Prophet in terms of his actions and sayings, also called Sunnah and the third is Ijtihad which includes analogical reasoning, juristic preference, public interest, blocking the means, customary practice and presumption of continuity. It is implied that before we come to Ijtihad or Qiyas, we must consult what is in the Quran and what is in the Sunnah. "It is not befitting a believing man or woman that when God and His messenger have decided an affair for them that they should after that, claim any say in that affair and whosoever is rebellious to God and His messenger, rarely goes astray in error manifest." (6). What is the justification for Ijtihad or Qiyas? One of the companions of the Prophet by the name of Moaz ibn Jabal was asked by the Prophet Mohammad before sending him to Yemen, "on what basis will you judge the cases?" And, he replied "Quran". The Prophet asked and if you can not find the answer in Quran? Then Moaz said "the Sunnah of the messenger of God". The Prophet asked "and if you can not find the answer there either?" Then Moaz said "I will make every attempt in my own opinion to make the right decision". The Prophet was pleased with this answer and said "praise be to God, who has guided the envoy of the messenger of God."

    What is Medical Ethics? In my opinion, medical ethics is not all black or white, all right or wrong but it is in the gray areas, choosing a better option over the worse one. The difference between what can be done technically and what should be done morally is the reason for medical ethics. Sometimes we are prompted to do certain things which may not be the best things to do. This could include decisions in our personal lives as well as in medical decisions. This prompting is from the devil who promised to attack humans in order to mislead them. "I will mislead them and I will create in them false desires. I will order them to slit the ears of the cattle and to deface the fair nature created by God". "Whosoever forsaking God, takes Satan as a friend, has indeed suffered a loss that is manifest." (7). Islamic medical ethics uphold the principles of biomedical ethics to include preservation of life, to promote and restore health, to alleviate human suffering, respect patient's autonomy, do medical justice, to tell the truth and to do no harm.

    The Rules of Islamic Shariah and Islamic Medical Ethics: On the other hand, the basics of Islamic laws (sharia) are preservation and protection of faith of the individual, his or her life and upholding the sanctity of human life, to serve God his mind and intellect and then to serve God his property and to serve God his or her progeny. The rules of Islamic medical ethics are 1) Necessity overrides prohibition. That is to say if certain things are prohibited in general but at the time of necessity they may become permissible if there is no alternative available.
    2) To accept the lesser of the two harms if both harms can not be avoided.
    3) Public interest will override individual interests.
    4) Harm has to be removed. That is to say that anything which is harmful to the human body becomes not permissible unless it is prescribed by a physician for a reason. In that case, principle #2, to accept the lesser of the two harms would apply (8).

    When the Life does begin? In medical ethics, one of the questions which is always asked is "When does life begin"? Is it at the cellular level or at the time of formation of zygote or when the spirit is blown into the fetus at 120 days and the fetus becomes a human person. I feel that the signs of life are that it is a clear and well defined event and if it is not terminated it will continue to grow and it has a genetic core of a mature organisms. Applying this principle, I feel that life begins at inception although the full life is when the fetus becomes viable. If we look into Quran some of the aspects of Embryology which were reviewed 1400 years ago when there was no microscope or the study of anatomy that we have now, we find some interesting revelations. In Quran says "read in the name of thy Lord who has created man from a clot."(96:1-2) Then it says "and indeed we created from quiescence of clay and then replaced him as a small quantity of liquid in a safe lodging, firmly established and we have fashioned this into something which clings and then we made this clot into a chewed lump of flesh and we made this into bones and then covered the bones with flesh and then brought it forth as another creation. So blessed be God, the best to create."(23:12-14). The implication of this Embryology fact that man was created in stages as God designed him to be. The next stage came about ensoulment, (when God's breath was blown into the fetus). Quran says "and breath into him of His spirit (11). Ensoulment occurs at 120 days of intrauterine conception. Although ensoulment occurs later, the embryo is respected from the onset of fertilization and acquires consideration as a human fetus after implantation. Viability of human life begins at implantation. It is for this reason that Islam recognizes the right of the fetus by giving it the right to life, the right for inheritance and the right to penalize assailants. That is to say that a state can not be decided until the fetus is born and if the pregnant woman is assailed by an assailant and the fetus dies or is harmed, then the attacker will be held legally liable to harming the fetus.

    Islamic view of infertility: It is human nature to be fertile and have children to continue the work with which the parents would like their name to continue. Quran says that "wealth and progeny are allurements for the life of this world" (12). This means that the two things families look for are to have a secure financial future and children. One of the prayers of believers described in Quran is "O, Lord, grant us spouses and offspring who will be the comfort of our eyes." Seeking cure for infertility is appropriate and all assisted reproductive technologies are permitted in Islam if the semen donor, ovum source and the incubator (uterus) are from the legally married husband and wife during the span of their marriage. (13). This is so because we honor the sanctity of marriage. Although a child can be born without marriage, Islamically the aim is to have a child with a mother and father who are legally married to each other. Surrogacy and frozen sperm after the death of the husband is not permitted.

    Prenatal Diagnosis and Gender Selection: Do we have the right to prevent congenital malformation and protect the well being of children? Prophet Muhammad has said "select your spouse carefully in the interest of your offspring because your lineage is a crucial issue." But, it implies that there should be premarital genetic counseling so that people with certain diseases do not intermarry in order to protect their offspring. Also in the hadith is mentioned, "do not marry your close relative because you will get weak offspring. For example, if both parents are related as cousins, and both have Type I diabetes or hemophilia, there will be 100% transmission of that genetic possibility. It also says that if you have weakened your descendants, you should marry strangers (those who do not have certain disease traits). Is it appropriate to do gender selection? In many countries, including third world countries, this happens. Female fetuses are discarded or aborted. Gender selection is only up to God. Quran says "He creates what He wills and plans. He bestows children, male or female according to His will and plans or he bestows both male and female and leaves them whom He wills. (14) What is the significance of lineage in a family? Islam stresses the centrality of the family unit. Blood relatives who have a special status with legal matters and those related by womb have prior rights against each other. Inheritance laws and certain restrictions on marriage are dependent on proper identification of lineage. Quran says "He has established the relationship of lineage and marriage."(15)

    Human Cloning: Thus, every person has the right to be legitimate child of his or her parent. Quran says "out of your spouses He created children and grandchildren and provided you out of His bounty". When it comes to human cloning, we feel that the genetic research directed to alter or delete a diseased gene is permissible. However, the use of fetal tissue and the use of fetal issue of spontaneous abortion and miscarriage is permissible but just to conceive in order to get fetal tissue and then discard the fetus is not. Fetal harvesting is not allowed. Human cloning is not permitted in Islam on the basis of the sanctity of marriage, the question of lineage and every human is created in his own unique nature. The use of donor sperm, ova and fertilized eggs or embryos is unlawful. This may akin to some degree in the form of adultery when sperm outside the marriage is introduced into the uterus of the woman. Quran says "and God has made for you mates and companions of your own nature and made for you out of them your sons, daughters and grandchildren".(16). In 1998, the Fiqh council of Islamic World League made the following resolutions: 1) It reaffirmed the previous resolution banning human cloning. 2) It permitted genetic engineering to prevent or cure diseases or minimize their harm, provided it does not harm otherwise during the process and it suggested that genetic engineering should not be applied to achieve evil or hostile ends of anything that is prohibited by sharia. It concluded by saying that genetic engineering should not be used in tampering with the possibility of human beings and their individual responsibilities or interfering with the structure of human genome under the pretext of enhancing the human race. Finally, it is not allowed to conduct the research treatment of diagnosis of an individuals genome unless a vigorous prior assessment of the potential risks and benefits pertaining to such an operation have been made and informed consent of the person involved is obtained and the results are kept strictly confidential and provision of the sharia regarding the rights and dignity of man are observed. It also concluded that it is not permissible to use human embryos as a source of organs and tissues except if certain conditions are satisfied, that is organs and tissues obtained from spontaneous aborted fetuses or legally aborted fetuses. If the fetus is delivered viable, save its life but if it dies, organs and tissue can be obtained from the cadaver according to this resolution of the Fiqh academy.

    What about Stem Cell Therapy? The following decisions were made by the Fiqh council: First, it is permissible to obtain stem cells to be grown and used for therapy for permissible scientific research if its source is legitimate. For example: 1) adults if they give permission without inflicting harm on them. 2) Children, providing that their guardians allow it for a legal benefit and without inflicting harm on the children. Doctors in Islamic jurisprudence council in December 2003, concluded that it is forbidden to use stem cells from illegal sources, i.e. fetal harvesting to conceive with the intention to use stem cells then discard or abort the fetus. In Islam, all actions are to be judged according to the intention. For example, charity has to be given from a legally earned source and not by stolen money. In terms of stem cell therapy, the placenta or umbilical cord blood with the parent's permission can be used if the fetus is spontaneously aborted or when aborted for therapeutic reasons permitted by sharia. Finally, left over zygote remnants from vitro fertilization if donated by parents, when it is ascertained that they will to not be used in illegal pregnancy.

    What about therapeutic cloning? The cloning of animals or plants for therapeutic purpose is permissible. Cloning human cells for therapeutic purpose is permissible provided the human cells are treated with dignity and with the informed consent of parties involved. However, creating whole human embryos for the soul purpose of using them for cloning is not permitted. Dr. Yusuf Qardawi ,the great contemporary Islamic scholar, has been on the record saying "If it has possible through research to clone organs such as hearts, livers, kidneys or other which may benefit those who are in dire need of them then it is permitted by religion and the researcher or the scientist will receive rewards from God. This is because the research will give benefit to humanity without loss to others or infringing upon others. Therapeutic cloning is therefore permissible and encouraged. In fact, in some circumstances, it may become mandatory to enhance the research in accordance with the need and mass research capability.

    Two cases for discussion:
    1. A 40 year old woman, unmarried, lawyer had multiple facial surgeries after an auto accident leading to facial scarring due to skin grafts. She now wishes to return to her law practice and social life. She considers a whole face transplant which may change her ethnic facial features. Is it a medically necessary procedure? Is it appropriate to change her God given ethnic features? Will she be satisfied with her new look? Discussion: The Islamic permissibility is based on;
    a. The advice of the Prophet to seek cure
    b. Take lesser of the two harms i.e. to keep the disfigured face or risk the operation
    c. Necessity over rides the prohibition ( to change the ethnic God given features)

    2. An experiment is under way to alter the genetic composition in order to change the destined behavior and memory. The researcher to experiment on boys ages 6-12 with parent's permission with predicted excessive aggressive and antisocial personality to subdue aggressiveness and augment docility. Will Islam allow such experiment to change the destined behavior? Discussion: The Islamic permissibility or non-permissibility should be based on
    a. The saying of the Prophet that "All actions will be judged according to intention. What is the intent here?
    b. One can change the behavior but not the destiny
    c. The public interest overrides the individual interest. Thus if the intent is to safe the public from future harms by an individual, it may be permitted.

    Presented on September 9 at the 13th Thomas A. Pitts Memorial lecture on Bioethics held at the Medical University of South Carolina. Dr. Athar is a past president and chair, medical ethics of the Islamic Medical Association of North America (www.imana.org ). He can be reached at his email [email protected] . References:
    (All translations of Holy Quran are by Yusuf Ali Amana corp.)
    1. Quran 67:1-2
    2. Quran 2:30
    3. Quran 17:70
    4. Quran 98:7
    5. Saying of the Holy Prophet Muhammad (compiled by Bukhari)
    6. Quran 33:36
    7. Quran 4:119
    8. Medical Ethics Position paper published by The Islamic Medical Association of North America
    9. Quran 96: 1-2
    10. Quran 23: 12-14
    11. Quran 32:9
    12. Quran 18:46
    13. Fadel HE , JIMA
    14. Quran 42: 29-50
    15. Quran 25:54
    16. Quran 6:72

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    necessity overrides prohibition !!!!!!!
    I am sure you can find many rulings throughout the forum.. there is also suret Al-baqara or simply read below!
    Thanks, I'll have a look.

    BTW, coffee doesn't do away with your mind,
    It's a stimulant, like amphetamine or cocaine, and is therefore an intoxicant, surely? I've seen people gibber away like idiots after a few too many cups of coffee.

    can shut down your electron transport chain in an OD and cause anion gap acidosis but neither can be compared to Alcohol save for its elemination by zero-order kinetics!
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    It's a stimulant, like amphetamine or cocaine, and is therefore an intoxicant, surely? I've seen people gibber away like idiots after a few too many cups of coffee.


    Alcohol isn't a stimulant in fact it is more akin to heroin a depressant (downer) rather than a stimulant (upper)...

    either way anything abused is unlawful.. anything for medicinal use if there is no alternative is lawful!

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    Alcohol isn't a stimulant in fact it is more akin to heroin a depressant (downer) rather than a stimulant (upper)...
    Quite right, but where did I mention alcohol? Or were you not replying to my post?

    either way anything abused is unlawful.. anything for medicinal use if there is no alternative is lawful
    Is this written in the Qur'an and Sunnah?

    It seems a sensible enough ruling, although there's always the question of what counts as "abuse". Medicinal marijuana? I suppose you'd have to get a scholar's opinion on that kind of thing.

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    Quite right, but where did I mention alcohol? Or were you not replying to my post?
    you have made indirect comparisons between alcohol to coffee and asa. either way, I have already responded that they are not the same compound and work on different receptors.



    Is this written in the Qur'an and Sunnah?

    It seems a sensible enough ruling, although there's always the question of what counts as "abuse". Medicinal marijuana? I suppose you'd have to get a scholar's opinion on that kind of thing.

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    read the long quote written in the previous page, by a Muslim doctor and a scholar.
    In my professional opinion marijuana shouldn't be used for medicinal purposes. ... Some states approve it, many don't... some-- well actually I should say one state approves euthanasia (oregon), but that isn't an ethical practice by the concensus of many, and certainly any doctor has the right to refuse practices they are uncomfortable with ethically, that of course without abandoning the patient but referring them to one who will be more responsive to those sorts of demands!

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    I am an american muslim and recently decided to revert. I have since had a hard time with some things, such as alcohol consumption, pork products and marijuana..... I know I should strive to do better, but I wanted to know if this is something that I could go to hell for.... I also wanted to know if there was anyone else like this on this forum that may have some tips or methods that they used to retract from these sorts of things. Any help is appreciated.
    Great appreciation and praise are due to Allah (swt) Who guided you to the Straight Way. The faith that you express is the important thing and as long as that exists within your heart you will know what is right and wrong. It is indeed a difficult matter to control one's desires and to submit to the Will of Allah (swt). I am not one to condemn or to excuse another for the sins that they commit. Continue to strive towards perfection and the strength to control yourself from partaking of these haram items. Ask for Allah's forgiveness and intend not to repeat.
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