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    There are 2 prayer tables, and both have different times, I've realized that I've been following one and the other.
    http://islamicfinder.org/world/unite...63681/richmond

    http://www.prayertimes.net/us/va/Richmond

    which one should I follow?
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    Re: Ok, NOW i've realized a problem

    This is a good question, as those are quite different. Do you go to a mosque that follows a specific prayer time? I do not have a mosque in my area so I too am reliant on the internet. Thank you for bringing this up!
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    Re: Ok, NOW i've realized a problem

    I looked at both for my city. Both are the same except "prayertimes.net" fajr times are all one minute before "islamic finders" fajr times.
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    Re: Ok, NOW i've realized a problem

    format_quote Originally Posted by Little_Lion View Post
    This is a good question, as those are quite different. Do you go to a mosque that follows a specific prayer time? I do not have a mosque in my area so I too am reliant on the internet. Thank you for bringing this up!
    I'm sure that the one in my mosque followed the islamicfinder site, but now it's completely different site now.

    And the prayer times, from what I remembered, what similar to the other site, but my mosque doesn't use that (at least I think so)

    And no problem sis
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    Re: Ok, NOW i've realized a problem

    Alright, I found out that another site agreed with prayertimes.net (http://salah.com/). So I will go with the 2nd one

    Dangit.. that means I missed Zuhr 20 - 30 minutes
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    He is Allah, other than whom there is no deity, the Sovereign, the Pure, the Perfection, the Bestower of Faith, the Overseer, the Exalted in Might, the Compeller, the Superior. Exalted is Allah above whatever they associate with Him [59:23]



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    Re: Ok, NOW i've realized a problem

    There is quite a difference actually. I looked at the times for my area, dhuhr, asr and maghrib were almost the same, but fajr and isha were really different. I was thinking maybe they could be using different methods to precalculate timings? Like the angle-based verses one-seventh rule?

    Also I think people from the shafi madhab calculate salah times a little differently, altho I'm not sure how differently.

    The website I use was one recommended to me and I find it matched up to the times most of the Muslims pray in my area.


    http://www.salahtimes.com/continents/north-america
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    Re: Ok, NOW i've realized a problem

    format_quote Originally Posted by noraina View Post
    There is quite a difference actually. I looked at the times for my area, dhuhr, asr and maghrib were almost the same, but fajr and isha were really different. I was thinking maybe they could be using different methods to precalculate timings? Like the angle-based verses one-seventh rule?

    Also I think people from the shafi madhab calculate salah times a little differently, altho I'm not sure how differently.

    The website I use was one recommended to me and I find it matched up to the times most of the Muslims pray in my area.


    http://www.salahtimes.com/continents/north-america
    That site also agreed with prayertimes.net, with zuhr being 1:15.

    Thanks sis and all the others for helping me! :d
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    Re: Ok, NOW i've realized a problem

    Book 004, Number 1278:

    Sulaiman b. Buraida narrated it on the authority of his father that a person asked the Apostle of Allah (may peace be upon him) about the time of prayer. Upon this he said: Pray with us these two, meaning two days. When the sun passed the meridian. he gave command to Bilal who uttered the call to prayer. then lie commanded him and pronounced Iqama for noon prayer (Then at the tine of the afternoon prayer) he again commanded and Iqama for the afternoon prayer was pronounced when the sun was high, white and clear. He then commanded and Iqama for the evening prayer was pronounced, when the sun had set. He then commanded him and the Iqama for the night prayer was pronounced When the twilight had disappeared. He then commanded him and the Iqama for the morning prayer was pronounced, when the dawn had appeared. When it was the next day, he commanded him to delay the noon prayer till the extreme heat had passed and he did so, and he allowed it to be delayed till the extreme heat had passed. He observed the afternoon prayer when the sun was high, delaying it beyond the time he had previously observed it. He observed the evening prayer before the twilight had vanished; he observed the night prayer when a third of the night had passed; and he observed the dawn prayer when there was clear daylight. He (the Holy Prophet) then said: Where is the man who inquired about the time of prayer? He (the inquirer) said: Messenger of Allah I here I am. He (the Holy Prophet) said: The time for your prayer is within the limits of what you have seen.

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    Book 004, Number 1279:

    Buraida narrated on the authority of his father that a man came to the Prophet (may peace be upon him) and asked about the times of prayer. He said: You observe with us the prayer. He commanded Bilal, and he uttered the call to prayer in the darkness of night preceding daybreak and he said the morning prayer till dawn had appeared. He then commanded him (Bilal) to call for the noon prayer when the sun had declined from the zenith. He then commanded him (Bilal) to call for the afternoon prayer when the sun was high. He then commanded him for the evening prayer when the sun had set. He then commanded him for the night prayer when the twilight had disappeared. Then on the next day he commanded him (to call for prayer) when there was light in the morning. He then commanded him (to call) for the noon prayer when the extreme heat was no more. He then commanded him for the afternoon prayer when the sun was bright and clear and yellowness did not blend with it. He then commanded him to observe the sunset prayer. He then commanded him for the night prayer when a third part of the night bad passed or a bit less than that. Harami (the narrator of this hadith) was in doubt about that part of the mentioned hadith which concerned the portion of the night. When it was dawn, he (the Holy Prophet) said: Where is the inquirer (who inquired about the times of prayer and added): Between (these two extremes) is the time for prayer.

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    Book 004, Number 1280:

    Abu Musa narrated on the authority of his father that a person came to the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) for inquiring about the times of prayers. He (the Holy Prophet) gave him no reply (because he wanted to explain to him the times by practically observing these prayers). He then said the morning player when it was daybreak, but the people could hardly recognise one another. He then commanded and the Iqama for the noon prayer was pronounced when the tan had passed the meridian and one would say that it was midday but he (the Holy Prophet) knew batter than them. He then again commanded and the Iqama for the afternoon prayer was pronounced when the sun was high. He then commanded and Iqama for the evening prayer was pronounced when the sun had sunk. He then commanded and Iqama for the night prayer was pronounced when the twilight had disappeared. He then delayed the morning prayer on the next day (so much so) that after returning from it one would say that the sun had risen or it was about to rise. He then delayed the noon prayer till it was near the time of afternoon prayer (as it was observed yesterday). He then delayed the afternoon prayer till one after returning from it would say that the sun had become red. He then delayed the evening prayer till the twilight was about to disappear. He then delayed the night prayer till it was one-third of the night. He then called the inquirer in the morning and said: The time for prayers is between these two extremes).

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    Book 004, Number 1281:

    Abu Musa reported on the authority of his father that an Inquirer came to the Prophet (may peace be upon him) and asked him about the times of prayers, and the rest of the hadith is the same (as narrated above) but for these words:" On the second day he (the Holy Prophet) observed the evening prayer before the disappearance of the twilight."
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    If you get plenty of sunshine in your area, then you can check/calculate the prayer times on your own and then see which of them is more accurate.

    For Fajr, look for bright horizontal light coming from the East. That is known as the true dawn.

    For Ishraq, keep looking for sunrise. As soon as you see the upper tip of the sun, Fajr time ends. Then wait for the sun to rise completely until it is almost 1.5-2 meters high. It takes approximately 15-20 minutes from Sunrise. That is the time for Ishraq.

    For Zuhr, wait for the sun to reach its peak. Then 5 minutes later when it starts going down, Zuhr time starts. You can plant a stick in the ground to check the shadow. Before Zuhr, the shadow will fall on west side of the stick. As soon as it starts falling towards the east side, Zuhr time starts.
    Also, measure the shadow length when the sun is at its peak, ie when the shadow is exactly in the center, neither towards east, nor towards west. You will need this measurement while calculating Asr time.

    Now for Asr, wait for the shadow to become equal in length as that of the stick + the shadow measurement you did above at the sun's peak. This will be the start of Asr time.
    (According to Hanafi madhhab, wait for the shadow to be twice that of the object height instead of being equal)

    The Asr time will end when the sun becomes yellow at the time of sunset.
    When the sun sets completely, Maghrib time will start.

    Maghrib time is until the sky is reddish brown. When it becomes black, Isha time starts.


    Please see this link for more details: http://www.moonsighting.com/how-we.html
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    Prayer timings differ all over the globe and minor variants from time to time due to ups and downs in daylight timings. In these conditions, Prayer Times Mobile App guides the user for prayers which are executed 5 times in a day. This mobile application provides Qibla directions as well as prayer time reminders throughout many countries of the world.

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