So for dhuhr I prayd at 1:22 and it's actually 1:37, do I have to repray it?
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format_quote Originally Posted by Huzaifah ibn Adam
Salaah performed before the time comes in is invalid. So yes, akhi.
The Salaah you had performed will count as Nafl Salaah.
But I may or may have been doing that for the past month or so, what can I do then?
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format_quote Originally Posted by Huzaifah ibn Adam
All the Salaats performed before the time came in have to be repeated.
But I can't spend a whole day repraying Duhr salat 29 or so times?
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But I can't spend a whole day repraying Duhr salat 29 or so times?
It's an honest mistake. Sometimes I'll be praying and then I hear the athan go off. I just finish what I'm praying and then pray it again. It's not a big deal. If you feel like you've done this constantly for a while, pray them during your free time or pray them after you've done one dhur prayer. Don't make it hard on yourself. It takes more time to watch a 30 minute tv show then it would to make up many of those late prayers
format_quote Originally Posted by Huzaifah ibn Adam
Salaah performed before the time comes in is invalid. So yes, akhi.
The Salaah you had performed will count as Nafl Salaah.
Isn't the emphasis placed more on the position of the Sun so the brother may had prayed a few mins early but the Sun could have already been at its place for Dhuhr?
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format_quote Originally Posted by jabeady
Does the OP really matter? Does a compassionate Allah really care about an error of five or so minutes if the intention is pure?
Hi. You're right. From a spiritual perspective, a compassionate God never cares about an understandable human error. However, as people of beautiful intentions to peacefully submit to the will of God, we care that from a juristic perspective that we committed an error and want to rectify it to show our sincerity to God. You see, sincerity should always be a two-way street: God is always sincere with us. Therefore, it only behooves us to return that sincerity with gestures of good faith as well. Repeating our prayers would come in the category of latter.
Think of it this way, although this is perhaps a very poor analogy, and I apologize for that inadequacy of this explanation; still, this might explain an atom of the kind of relationship we should have ideally with God in terms of our own intentions. For example, you as a man may do beautiful things to show your sincerity for a partner such as buying flowers, celebrating her birthday, paying for dinners, and anything else that comes to your mind. However, wouldn't you want to have someone equally show that sincerity to you in this relationship?
Isn't the emphasis placed more on the position of the Sun so the brother may had prayed a few mins early but the Sun could have already been at its place for Dhuhr?
There is no certainty that the time really had come in, so we have to say that the Salaah must be re-performed.
To tell if the sun is in a certain position, even astronomers must consult references and then a timepiece; mariners do the same. What if the timepiece is wrong, the person mistakes his precise position, or consults the wrong line or column of the ephemeris (There, I remembered the word! I hate getting older)? In any of these cases, the error would not be recognized and never atoned for or corrected.
Last edited by jabeady; 09-13-2016 at 08:32 PM.
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To tell if the sun is in a certain position, even astronomers must consult references and then a timepiece; mariners do the same. What if the timepiece is wrong, the person mistakes his precise position, or consults the wrong line or column of the ephemeris (There, I remembered the word! I hate getting older)? In any of these cases, the error would not be recognized and never atoned for or corrected.
Islam came to make life easy, not hard. If one does their out most best and go with that then they are free from blame or sin inshallah. Allah knows our limits and ask not more than what we can handle.
Is it really hard to tell when the Sun Sets and when the Dawn of Sun occurs?
It can be. For example, due to refraction in the atmosphere, the sun's image is still apparently visible for a period of time after it has actually descended below the horizon. Does Islam take this into account?
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Well do you find it hard to know when exactly the Sun is setting? Like you see everything suddenly becoming dark at that moment so do you doubt your are experiencing a sun set? Or when you see the sky suddenly becomes reddish, do you doubt that a Sunset is occurring or maybe something else is happening(not a sunset).
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Turns out that the website I've been using was just acting funky, alhamdullilah.
Back to no prayer times and staring at the sun!
He is Allah, other than whom there is no deity, the Sovereign, the Pure, the Perfection, the Bestower of Faith, the Overseer, the Exalted in Might, the Compeller, the Superior. Exalted is Allah above whatever they associate with Him [59:23]
Well do you find it hard to know when exactly the Sun is setting?
Exactly? Yes, without an ephemeris. See my previous post. That's the whole point of the OP: he's worried about praying at the exact time.
How far off can you be, while still praying at exactly the right time?
Like you see everything suddenly becoming dark at that moment so do you doubt your are experiencing a sun set? Or when you see the sky suddenly becomes reddish, do you doubt that a Sunset is occurring or maybe something else is happening(not a sunset).
Sigh.
Wikipedia:
"Near to the horizon, atmospheric refraction causes the ray path of light from the Sun to be distorted to such an extent that geometrically the Sun's disk is already about one diameter below the horizon when sunset is observed."
In other words, the sun, itself, is already entirely below the horizon *before* its image begins to disappear below the horizon. The sun has already set although you can still see its image.
As to getting dark, now you're talking about twilight/dusk, you are *not* talking about sunset.
Really, this is basic astronomy. It was Muslim astronomers who first came up with this stuff.
Last edited by jabeady; 09-14-2016 at 03:40 AM.
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