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    Is Islam only limited to self practice? I mean should we only worry about ourself only and not our fellow Muslims? It should not be our business/concern to guide them to the right path of Islam if one is breaking islamic laws?
    What does Prophet Mohamme PBUH says about that? What about Islam?
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    Re: Brothers and Sisters Please I need Help



    format_quote Originally Posted by MohammedSP View Post
    Is Islam only limited to self practice? I mean should we only worry about ourself only and not our fellow Muslims?
    This is secularists view. They want to prevent Muslims implement Sharia.
    It should not be our business/concern to guide them to the right path of Islam if one is breaking islamic laws?
    Muslims are obligated to invite the people along to the right path and prevent people fall to the wrong path. This obligation named "Amar bil Ma'ruf nahi wal Munkar".
    What does Prophet Mohamme PBUH says about that? What about Islam?
    In one hadith, Rasulullah SAW ordered Muslim to prevent people doing "Munkar" (wrong doing/evil doing) with hands, with words, and at least with the heart. But this (with the heart) is the weakest of Iman.

    (I hope other member can show us this hadith)
    Last edited by ardianto; 01-03-2011 at 10:54 AM. Reason: explain "Munkar"
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    Re: Brothers and Sisters Please I need Help

    Salaam

    format_quote Originally Posted by MohammedSP View Post
    Is Islam only limited to self practice? I mean should we only worry about ourself only and not our fellow Muslims?

    what made u think like that ? Not only we have duty to fellow Muslims , we have a duty to non-Muslims also - that is to invite them to the Truth.

    Allah says in Quran : Invite (mankind, O Muhammad SAW) to the Way of your Lord (i.e. Islam) with wisdom (i.e. with the Divine Inspiration and the Quran) and fair preaching, and argue with them in a way that is better. Truly, your Lord knows best who has gone astray from His Path, and He is the Best Aware of those who are guided.


    ( سورة النحل , An-Nahl, Chapter #16, Verse #125)
    Brothers and Sisters Please I need Help

    Christ will never be proud to reject to be a slave to God .....holy Quran, chapter Women , 4: 172

    recitation:http://quran.jalisi.com
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    Re: Brothers and Sisters Please I need Help

    oh i remeber of one Suhabi RA, hz name Rabi Bin Ammar (plz im not sure about name). he went to the Rustam, the king of Iran. Rustam asked Y u came. He replied "Allah SWt has SENT us, to call out all the ppl of the world from worship of creatures to the worship of Creator, and from this temporary and short dunya to the vast and forever Ahhra". u know he used the word "bahisna", Allah SWT had used that word for Ambiya As in Quran.
    i often think and this dipress me, if i am not taking myself responsible for all ppl of the world to take them out for worship of creature to the Creator, then i am wasting my time and i am going in loss. as ALLAH SWT said in sora asar.
    what u ppl think of urself. uptill now how much of the ppl came out of worship of creature to the worship of Allah SWT BCZ of U.....if not a single person, how are satisfied with ur Islam.....!!!!!!!!
    Allah SWt accept all of us and give us istaqamat on deen. Alhumdullaih Allah SWT has make me reason for many of my friends to follow and practice islamic way of life.
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    Re: Brothers and Sisters Please I need Help

    There is something called"Huquq-ul-ibad" which means,"rights of people", in that way, we should care about other people aswell.
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    format_quote Originally Posted by MohammedSP View Post
    I mean should we only worry about ourself only and not our fellow Muslims?

    There are many hadiths that stress how we should treat each other with love and respect.
    The Prophet (pbuh)said: "You will not enter paradise until you believe, and you will not believe until you love one another. Shall I not guide you to something which if you carry out you will love one another? Spread salaam amongst yourselves." [Muslim]

    The Prophet (pbuh) described the Ummah as one body; if one member becomes sick then the other members of this one body will take care of the sick one
    "The Believers, in their mutual love, mercy and compassion, are like one body: if one organ complained, the rest of the body develops a fever." [Bukhari & Muslim]

    The Prophet (pbuh)said: "Do not have malice against a Muslim; do not be envious of other Muslims; do not go against a Muslim and forsake him. O the slave of Allah! Be like brothers with each other. It is not allowed for a Muslim to desert his brother for over three days."

    "The believers are nothing else than brothers. So make reconciliation between your brothers, and fear Allah, that you may receive mercy." [Al-Hujjurat, 49:10]

    "O you who believe! Avoid much suspicion, indeed some suspicions are sins. And spy not, neither backbite one another. Would one of you like to eat the flesh of his dead brother? You would hate it. And fear Allah. Verily, Allah is the One Who forgives and accepts repentance, Most Merciful." [Al-Hujjurat, 49:12]

    "And hold fast, all of you together, to the Rope of Allah and be not divided among yourselves, and remember Allah's Favour on you, for you were enemies one to another but He joined your hearts together, so that, by His Grace, you became brethren, and you were on the brink of a pit of Fire, and He saved you from it. Thus Allah makes His Ayat clear to you, that you may be guided." [Al-Imran, 3:103]

    format_quote Originally Posted by MohammedSP View Post
    Is Islam only limited to self practice?

    ”There are six duties of a Muslim upon a Muslim:”
    1) “When you meet him, greet him,greet him With a warm smile, a friendly face and As-Salaam Alaykum.
    2) “When he invites you, respond to him”
    3) “When he seeks counsel, give him good advice”
    4) “When he sneezes and praises Allah, say to him: `May Allah have mercy on you (Yarhamuk-Allah).
    5) “When he is sick, visit him.
    6) “When he dies, follow his funeral”

    format_quote Originally Posted by MohammedSP View Post
    It should not be our business/concern to guide them to the right path of Islam if one is breaking islamic laws?

    The Prophet (pbuh) said: "Each of you is the mirror of his brother, so if he sees a fault in him he should wipe it away from him." [Tirmidhi]
    Last edited by S.Belle; 01-03-2011 at 04:12 PM.
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    Brothers and sisters... plez understand that i was stating secular muslims views here... I am having a debate with them that Islamic law is the best system for pakistan if fallowed properly without mullah's influence. You guys are helping me alot..
    thank you
    Last edited by Tilmeez; 01-04-2011 at 05:53 AM. Reason: You will be able to Edit once you have 50 posts. Till then let us help you :)
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    Re: Brothers and Sisters Please I need Help

    ^Assalaamu`Alaaykum

    Brother also realise that too much debating can weaken your imaan especially when your debating about something you have no knowledge of. you are to debate but of what you know and it is Allaah than can open their hearts and you can only give Dawah and that is in many different ways.
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    Re: Brothers and Sisters Please I need Help

    format_quote Originally Posted by MohammedSP View Post
    plez dont be understand that i was stating secular muslims views here
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    ops i meant to say (plez understand.)

    why cant we edit our posts here?
    Assalaamu`Alaaykum

    you are not able to edit your posts because you are a "limited" member, once you have reached 50 posts you will be able to edit your posts.

    And this is for security reasons ofcourse.
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    "Allah! La ilaha illa Huwa (none has the right to be worshipped but He), Al-Hayyul-Qayyum (the Ever Living, the One Who sustains and protects all that exists).".."[Al Qur'aan 3:2]
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    Re: Brothers and Sisters Please I need Help

    Please discuss why democracy secularism should not be practiced by state with majority of muslims like pakistan.
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    Re: Brothers and Sisters Please I need Help

    AOA

    Sister my faith is strong and even though i know little about my religion i do know one thing Islam is the most true religion!
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    Re: Brothers and Sisters Please I need Help

    char chezain dil ko murda kar daty han;
    1. Dunia ki muhabat or umeedon ka taveel hona
    2. Aurtoon say kasrat-e-ahtalaat
    3. Jahiloon say muqabal
    4. murda logon ki majlas [murda wo log han jin kay andar mal na akar pada kar di ho]
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    format_quote Originally Posted by MohammedSP View Post
    Is Islam only limited to self practice? I mean should we only worry about ourself only and not our fellow Muslims? It should not be our business/concern to guide them to the right path of Islam if one is breaking islamic laws?
    What does Prophet Mohamme PBUH says about that? What about Islam?
    Asalaamu Alaikum, jazakallahu khayran for your question.

    The Messenger of Allah said: “None of you truly believes until he loves for his brother what he loves for himself.” [al-Bukhari, Muslim]


    ‘Ali bin Abi Talib said: “A man who desires that even the straps of his shoes are better than those of his friend enters into those mentioned in this verse: {“And this is the abode of the Hereafter: We prepare it for those who do not seek high status or mischief in the land.“} [al-Qasas; 83].” [at-Tabari in 'Jami' al-Bayan'; 20/122]

    al-Fudayl bin ‘Iyad said: “If you love for the people to have exactly what you have (and nothing more), then you have not been true to your Lord. So, how is it when you secretly wish for them to have less than what you have?”

    ['Jami' al-'Ulum wal-Hikam'; 1/309]


    Therefore we should live everyday of our lives wanting for our Muslim brothers what we want for ourselves. If our Muslim brothers are committing sin then we would not want them to be destroyed so we would try and stop them in a beautiful manner using wisdom and tact to try and deter them from the wrong path.


    Would you allow your own son or daughter to stray on the wrong path? Then why would you allow other Muslim brothers to stray?


    Therefore let us want for our brothers and sisters what we want for ourselves.

    In regards to enjoing good and forbidding evil:

    Allah the Most High said: Let there be among you a community who enjoin good and forbid evil; it is they that shall be successful, [3:104] and: You are the best community that has ever been brought forth for mankind: you enjoin good and forbid evil, and you believe in God, [3:110] and: Those who repent, those who worship, those who praise, those who persevere, those who bow down, those who prostrate, and those who enjoin good and forbid evil, [9:112] and: Those of the Israelites who were unbelievers have already been cursed on the tongue of David and Jesus, son of Mary, for they were disobedient, and transgressed. They did not forbid one another from committing the evil that they wrought. What they used to do was foul indeed. [5:79] The Qur'an is full of passages which treat of this subject.

    Muslim relates on the authority of Abu Sa`id (radhiallahu `anhu) that the Prophet sallallahu `alayhi wa sallam said, "Whoever sees something evil should change it with his hand. If he cannot, then with his tongue; and if he cannot do even that, then in his heart. That is the weakest degree of faith."

    He also relates on the authority of Ibn Mas`ud that the Prophet (sallallahu `alayhi wa sallam) said, "There was not a single Prophet among those who were sent before me who did not have apostles and companions and followed his Sunna and obeyed his commands. But afterwards other generations came whose words belied their deeds, and whose deeds were not in accordance with what they commanded others to do. Whoever struggles against the with his hand is a believer. Whoever struggles against them with his tongue is a believer. And whoever struggles against them with his heart is a believer. But when none of these things are done, then not a single mustard's seed weight of faith is present."

    Bukhari and Muslim relate that Zaynab (radhiallahu `anha), the wife of the Prophet (sallallahu `alayhi wa sallam) said, "The Prophet (sallallahu `alayhi wa sallam) once awoke, and his face was dark, as he said three times, 'There is no deity worthy of worship but Allah! Woe betide the Arabs, because of an evil which will soon come! Today, the barrier of Juj and Ma`juj has been breached by so much,' and he made a circle with his thumb and forefinger." And Zaynab remarked, "I said, 'O Messenger of Allah! Even when the righteous still dwell amongst us?' and he said, 'Yes, when khubth (moral degradation) becomes widespread.'"

    Malik ibn Dinar once recited the verse, There were in the city nine men who caused corruption in the earth, and would not cause reform, [27:48] and said, "Nowadays, there are people in every clan and district who cause corruption in the earth, and do not cause reform." He also said, "We have become accustomed to loving the world, so that we do not enjoin good or forbid evil to one another. Allah the Most High will certainly not permit us to continue doing this, but would that I knew what kind of punishment shall befall us!"

    `Umar ibn `Abdul `Aziz said, "It used to be that Allah the Most High does not punish the common people for the sins of the elite; but when the evil is done openly, and they do not repudiate it, they all become deserving of His punishment."


    Source: http://www.islaam.com/Article.aspx?id=345


    The Messenger of Allah (saw) also said, "The believers, in their love, mutual kindness, and close ties, are like one body; when any part complains, the whole body responds to it with wakefulness and fever." [Muslim], "The faithful are like one man: if his eyes suffers, his whole body suffers." [Muslim], "An Arab is no better than a non-Arab. In return, a non-Arab is no better than an Arab. A red raced man was not better than a black one except in piety. Mankind are all Adam's children and Adam was created out of clay." [Al-Bukhari and Muslim, on the authority of Abu Musa]

    Meaning that the Muslims, whether they are of Chinese, African, European or Asian origin, are one Ummah and they cannot be separated from each other.

    No tribalistic ties should ever break their unity. The Messenger of Allah (saw) said, "The Faithful are to one another like [parts of] a building - each part strengthening the others" and "Every Muslim is a brother to a Muslim, neither wronging him nor allowing him to be wronged. And if anyone helps his brother in need, Allah will help him in his own need; and if anyone removes a calamity from [another] Muslim, Allah will remove from him some of the calamities of the Day of Resurrection; and if anyone shields [another] Muslim from disgrace, Allah will shield him from the disgrace on the Day of Resurrection." [Al-Bukhari and Muslim, on the authority of `Abd Allah ibn `Umar].

    Source: http://www.islamic-world.net/islamic-state/evidence.htm

    Finally:

    “Whoever guides anyone to goodness, his reward shall be the same as those who follow his guidance without lessening a bit of their reward. And whoever guides anyone astray, his sin shall be the same as the sin of the person who follows him without lessening a single bit of their sin.” [Muslim]


    May Allah make us want the best for our brothers and sisters and to enjoin good and forbid evil and unite us as we are all one Ummah and one body! Ameen

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    Re: Brothers and Sisters Please I need Help

    Assalaam Alikum wa Rahmetullahi wa barakatuh,

    1. Is Islam only limited to self practice? I mean should we only worry about ourself only and not our fellow Muslims? A:No.If Islam would be limited to only self practice, then Islam would have been limited to a few people in Arabian Peninsula.
    2. It should not be our business/concern to guide them to the right path of Islam if one is breaking islamic laws? A: Although those who work and strive on the way of Truth should think only of their own duties, they think of those that pertain to Almighty Allah, base their actions on them, and fall into error. Whereas the Noble Prophet (Upon whom be blessings and peace), who was the Absolute Master, Universal Leader, and Perfect Guide, took as his absolute guide the Divine decree,
    ‘No more is the Prophet bound to do than deliver the message’
    and when people held back and did not listen, conveyed the message with greater effort, endeavour, and seriousness. For in accordance with the verse,
    ‘It is true you will not be able to guide everyone whom you love; but Allah guides those whom He will’
    He understood that making people listen and guiding them was Almighty Allah’s concern. And he did not interfere in Allah’s concerns. So, we should tell to people about facts of belief, however their acception is not our duty, but Allah’s.
    3. What does Prophet Mohamme PBUH says about that? What about Islam? A: “For one person to come to believe through you is better for you than a wide plain of red sheep and goats.”(Bukhari)
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    Re: Brothers and Sisters Please I need Help

    "Enjoin the good and forbid the evil"
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    Re: Brothers and Sisters Please I need Help

    format_quote Originally Posted by ardianto View Post
    This is secularists view. They want to prevent Muslims implement Sharia.
    What does sharia have to do with anything! and who is this mystical "THEY"?

    format_quote Originally Posted by ardianto View Post
    In one hadith, Rasulullah SAW ordered Muslim to prevent people doing "Munkar" (wrong doing/evil doing) with hands, with words, and at least with the heart. But this (with the heart) is the weakest of Iman.
    In the present time "with hands" is the place of the police, with "words" is the place of the scholars, and with heart is for everyone.
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    Re: Brothers and Sisters Please I need Help

    format_quote Originally Posted by Muhammad Aseem View Post
    In the present time "with hands" is the place of the police, with "words" is the place of the scholars, and with heart is for everyone.
    I totally absoluyely disagree.
    That hadith is general and must be implemented by anyone till the end of time.

    So, if you really see munkar, say you have a son, and your son is doing zina, are you just going to disapprove with your heart, are you NOT going to make intervention and at least telling your son to stop doing zina?

    why wait for scholars and police?

    Allah even commands us in many ayats in the Qur'an, among them:

    “You are the best of peoples, evolved for mankind, enjoining what is right, forbidding what is wrong, and believing in Allah.”
    Surah al-’Imran 3:110

    Leave alone those who take their religion to be mere play and amusement, and are deceived by the life of this world. But proclaim (to them) this (truth): that every soul delivers itself to ruin by its own acts: it will find for itself no protector nor intercessor except Allah: if it offered every ransom, none will be accepted: such is (the end of) those who deliver themselves to ruin by their own acts: they will have for drink (only) boiling water, and for punishment, one most grievous: for they persisted in rejecting Allah.”
    Surah al-An’am 6:70

    “Let there arise out of you a band of people inviting to all that is good, enjoining what is right, and forbidding what is wrong: they are the ones to attain felicity.”
    Surah al-’Imran 3:104

    “The Believers, men and women, are protectors, one of another: they enjoin what is just, and forbid
    what is evil: they observe regular prayers, practice regular charity, and obey Allah and His Messenger.
    On them will Allah pour His Mercy: for Allah is Exalted in power, Wise. ”
    (Surah At-Tawbah verse 71)
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    Re: Brothers and Sisters Please I need Help

    format_quote Originally Posted by MohammedSP View Post
    Is Islam only limited to self practice? I mean should we only worry about ourself only and not our fellow Muslims? It should not be our business/concern to guide them to the right path of Islam if one is breaking islamic laws? What does Prophet Mohamme PBUH says about that? What about Islam?


    The Holy Prophet (saw) is the best example for us to follow, so:

    1. Is Islam only limited to self practice? Did the Holy Prophet only practice Islam for himself?
    2. Should we worry about ourselves only and not our fellow Muslims? Did the Holy Prophet only worry about himself and not about his fellow Muslims?
    3. It should not be our business/concern to guide them to the right path of Islam if one is breaking Islamic laws? Did the Holy Prophet look the other way when someone is breaking Islamic laws?
    4. What does the Holy Prophet say about that? The Holy Prophet said a lot more than can be contained in this forum so I will mention only one here:

    At the end of the Khutbah Al-Wadah (The Final Sermon) the Holy Prophet said (in approximate translation):

    "All those who listen to me shall pass on my words to others and those to others again; and may the last ones understand my words better than those who listen to me directly. Be my witness, O Allah, that I have conveyed your message to your people."

    So it is our duty, as Muslims, to spread the message of Islam and continue the da'wah of the Holy Prophet.

    5. What about Islam? Again Islam has a lot more to say about this than can be contained in this forum, so I will mention only one here:

    "And let there be [arising] from you a nation inviting to [all that is] good, enjoining what is right and forbidding what is wrong, and those will be the successful."
    - approximate translation of verse 104 in surah 3.

    This is generally referred to as "amar maroof nahi munkar" meaning, roughly, "enjoin good and forbid evil". Both has to be done. We cannot just be good ourselves or just encourage other people to be good. We must also, to the extent of our abilities, take action to stop evil activities.

    One day, someone told me that all we need to do is "amar maroof" because munkar will just disappear by itself if there is a lot of maroof. Let me put it this way:

    Let's say we are in a dark room. We find it very difficult to move around in the room because it is dark. We can see nothing because there is no light. So we light a torch. Now there is light. Does this mean that the room will be automatically cleared? No. What it means is that with the light, we can see all the things that are in the room, things which block our path. So now that we can see, we have to remove the obstacles so that we can move better around the room.

    Likewise with maroof and munkar. With maroof, we will be able to see the munkar clearly. The munkar will not disappear just because we can see it. We will still have to remove the munkar.

    Hope this is useful. Insha Allah.
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    The work of dawat is an excellent movement where one goes out to rectify themselves, goes out to call oher towards good and refrain them from evil
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    It is stated in Hadith:

    Hadhrat Nuúmaan bin Basheer (Radhiallaahu Ánhu) says that Rasulullah (Sallallaahu Álayhi Wasallam) gave an example of people sailing on a boat having an upper deck and a lower deck. The people from the lower deck require water and request water from the people of the upper deck. The people from the upper deck refuse water so the people from the lower deck decide to make a hole on the floor of the ship and get water from the sea. Rasulullah (Sallallaahu Álayhi Wasallam) said, "If the people from the upper deck don't stop the people at the bottom from making a hole, the ship will sink and all the people travelling will drown." (Mishkãt vol. 2 p. 436)
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