Why Islam alow to have sex with the slave without marry ?

**hopeonallah** · 03-08-2011

I heard Islam allow to have sex with your slave without marry her . Is it true ? If yes then why ? If its not true then educate me what exactly Islam says about slavery in details please .

**Lynx** · 03-11-2011

Originally Posted by - Qatada -

I've explained in that article that a nation who faces war, their women will go through either of these 3 circumstances;

1 - Imprisonment - because her people were at war with the Victor. (she will most likely be raped in prison, and this happens even in the modern world. [search Abu Ghraib prison if in doubt.])

2 - Exhile - because the defeated peoples property has all been taken by the enemy. (so she will have to run to another land, where she will probably also face harm and probably rape. And she will not have a male provider. [if in doubt - study the effects of the Iraq war on Muslim women. (many have had to become prostitutes because their men have been killed).])

3 - Being a Concubine - this is the best solution. She has a Believing male provider, she has similar rights to a wife. She learns about Islam from the Muslims. She soon earns her freedom [see Um al Walad]. And her husband may even; teach her, free her and marry her (since that is recommended in the Qur'an and Ahadith [see surah Nur 24:32)

And marry the unmarried among you and the righteous among your male slaves and female slaves. If they should be poor, Allah will enrich them from His bounty, and Allah is all-Encompassing and Knowing. [Nur 24:32]

We see that 4 wives maximum will not give protection to all women whose people face defeat in war. Rather, there needs to be no limit in order for these women to have one Provider who fulfills her rights.

This is why - the Ameer [Leader] will distribute the women (keeping in mind their status before they were caught - so a noble woman will be given to a noble man i.e. Safiyyah bint Huyayy was given to Allah's Messenger because she was of a noble lineage). So that the woman has one guardian who can lookafter her and give her her rights (with food, clothing, shelter, and intimate rights etc.)

This is the fairest and purest Practical solution.

Allah knows best.

Hi,

It's also possible to have slaves that are not concubines, which will still confer the same advantages that you have outlined without the moral drawbacks. Of course, IMO, the real reason this practice was allowed is because the army needs to be kept happy.

**- Qatada -** · 03-11-2011

Originally Posted by Lynx

Hi,

It's also possible to have slaves that are not concubines, which will still confer the same advantages that you have outlined without the moral drawbacks. Of course, IMO, the real reason this practice was allowed is because the army needs to be kept happy.

Slave women still have sexual needs. Instead of leaving them to prostitution or illicit sexual relations, Islam provides that this woman has the right to emotional care, and also intimate care from her male provider or 'owner'.

In regard to the rest of your statement, whatever - it still doesn't disprove that Islam provided the best Practical solution. Infact, I would agree that it brings good for both the male and the female involved. And this is what God's guidance provides.

**Lynx** · 03-11-2011

Originally Posted by - Qatada -

Slave women still have sexual needs. Instead of leaving them to prostitution or illicit sexual relations, Islam provides that this woman has the right to emotional care, and also intimate care from her male provider or 'owner'.

Well prostitution does not arise out of sexual needs. It arises out of socio-economic conditions. Also, I am glad you feel so strongly about 'illicit sexual reations; legal harems are so much nobler. Were the sexual appetites of Muslim men so insatiable 1400 years ago?

In regard to the rest of your statement, whatever - it still doesn't disprove that Islam provided the best Practical solution. Infact, I would agree that it brings good for both the male and the female involved. And this is what God's guidance provides.

Here's a better solution: if the soldier has a wife, then he is forbidden to have sexual relationships with his slave woman unless his wife allows him to. I think THAT clause would make the sisters feel a lot better

Most people could not sleep at night knowing their beloved is in bed with another, let alone 3 others. Anyone here who is married or is in a relationship can understand this; the creator of humans, if he exists, understands this; so why does anyone think God would sanction something like this, especially when it essentially serves no purpose but to satiate the soldiers fighting wars? I don't know what's worse, 'halal' prostitution (as per the shi'ites and their temp marriages) or legalized adultery (in this example).

**- Qatada -** · 03-11-2011

Originally Posted by Lynx

Well prostitution does not arise out of sexual needs. It arises out of socio-economic conditions.

And this is why I said, the slave woman should have a male provider - who provides all her needs for her. This way, she doesn't need to resort to prostitution.

Also, I am glad you feel so strongly about 'illicit sexual reations; legal harems are so much nobler. Were the sexual appetites of Muslim men so insatiable 1400 years ago?

Ah, so you're perfectly alright with women being locked up and raped? Exhiled and raped again? But not if they gain gradual freedom through a harem or marriage?

Here's a better solution: if the soldier has a wife, then he is forbidden to have sexual relationships with his slave woman unless his wife allows him to. I think THAT clause would make the sisters feel a lot better

It might make the sisters feel better. But it still doesn't provide a solution. If many females have different needs, and there are less men in society to fulfill them needs (not just sexual, but also others such as financial support, shelter, etc.) then that is a solution in removing some post-war problems in regard to females.

Most people could not sleep at night knowing their beloved is in bed with another, let alone 3 others. Anyone here who is married or is in a relationship can understand this; the creator of humans, if he exists, understands this; so why does anyone think God would sanction something like this, especially when it essentially serves no purpose but to satiate the soldiers fighting wars? I don't know what's worse, 'halal' prostitution (as per the shi'ites and their temp marriages) or legalized adultery (in this example).

The above point answers this. Your lack of insight and lack of providing better alternatives on the issue shows you really don't understand the issue well, or you purposelly want to remain ignorant. Maybe you can provide a better solution? I look forward to it.

**IB-Staff** · 03-11-2011

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