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    gotta be careful wht u say on the internet

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    gotta be careful wht u say in forums and chat rooms so u dont end up like thethese guys>>>>>>>>>http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exer...56B8F34285.htm

    i think the sentencing of these men is kinda extreme, wht if they were just acting up and dint rlly mean wht they were saying. their words may not necessarily reflect their true state of mind!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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    Re: gotta be careful wht u say on the internet

    format_quote Originally Posted by nevesirth View Post
    gotta be careful wht u say in forums and chat rooms so u dont end up like thethese guys>>>>>>>>>http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exer...56B8F34285.htm

    i think the sentencing of these men is kinda extreme, wht if they were just acting up and dint rlly mean wht they were saying. their words may not necessarily reflect their true state of mind!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    I think the sentencing should have been stronger.

    I think you may not understand the level of hate that have concumed some.
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    Re: gotta be careful wht u say on the internet

    format_quote Originally Posted by wilberhum View Post
    I think the sentencing should have been stronger.

    I think you may not understand the level of hate that have concumed some.
    what happened 2 freedom of speech. and another thing, most people are not what they seem 2 be on the internet. with laws like these, many clowns will be sent to jail!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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    Re: gotta be careful wht u say on the internet

    if the government rlly wants 2 enforce such laws, i suggest they shld check alot of forums for inciting of hate and violence be it religious racial sexual etc.

    i bet u millions of internet users will be issued arrest warrants and consequently sent to jail, some for life!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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    Re: gotta be careful wht u say on the internet

    format_quote Originally Posted by nevesirth View Post
    what happened 2 freedom of speech. and another thing, most people are not what they seem 2 be on the internet. with laws like these, many clowns will be sent to jail!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Freedom of speech does not give you the right to shout fire in an enclosed space.
    Freedom of speech doesn’t give you the right to endanger others.

    Clowns are funny, they have nothing in common with those that try to inspire others to hate and commit violence on others.
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    Re: gotta be careful wht u say on the internet

    format_quote Originally Posted by nevesirth View Post
    if the government rlly wants 2 enforce such laws, i suggest they shld check alot of forums for inciting of hate and violence be it religious racial sexual etc.

    i bet u millions of internet users will be issued arrest warrants and consequently sent to jail, some for life!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    And they should be.
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    i dnt think such pple rlly have any impact on others, who will be convinced by such pple to carry out attacks. i believe the pple who influence others are those who do so in person not in cyberspace.
    its easier to trck internet users cuz they leave traces!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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    Re: gotta be careful wht u say on the internet

    format_quote Originally Posted by nevesirth View Post
    i dnt think such pple rlly have any impact on others, who will be convinced by such pple to carry out attacks. i believe the pple who influence others are those who do so in person not in cyberspace.
    its easier to trck internet users cuz they leave traces!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    I think you are wrong. Even if no one acts directly based on there tries, it could start people down the path that could results in latter attacks. Even if all they do is instell some hate, they should be stoped.

    Or maybe, as a non-Muslim, I belong to the group they wanted to harm.
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    Re: gotta be careful wht u say on the internet

    format_quote Originally Posted by wilberhum View Post
    I think you are wrong. Even if no one acts directly based on there tries, it could start people down the path that could results in latter attacks. Even if all they do is instell some hate, they should be stoped.

    Or maybe, as a non-Muslim, I belong to the group they wanted to harm.
    yeah, u right but dnt u think the sentencing is quite severe for their offences. im sure these men never knew they were commiting a crime by indulging in such acts. i believe some where jst indulging in some twisted humour or some kind of role play!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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    Re: gotta be careful wht u say on the internet

    Yeh Be careful!

    Things like this are true
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    Re: gotta be careful wht u say on the internet

    format_quote Originally Posted by nevesirth View Post
    yeah, u right but dnt u think the sentencing is quite severe for their offences. im sure these men never knew they were commiting a crime by indulging in such acts. i believe some where jst indulging in some twisted humour or some kind of role play!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    No I don't. I'm sure they hoped that people would be harmed.
    Common sense should tell you that trying to get someone to harm others is against the law. If I am harmed because of "some kind of role play', it will not make the pain any less. And still I question that it was "some kind of role play". But not being at the trial, I’m not going to try to out guess the judge.
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    Re: gotta be careful wht u say on the internet

    what happened 2 freedom of speech
    Absolute freedom of speech is a myth. It is not an absolute right by any means. And in my opinion, it should not be.

    Incitement to murder, which is what these three were charged with and convicted for, is an abuse of freedom of speech.
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    There Must Be Freedom All Over The World Not Just The Arab And Muslim World.
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    format_quote Originally Posted by ISLAMASWEENEY View Post
    There Must Be Freedom All Over The World Not Just The Arab And Muslim World.
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    Sorry, I do not understand.
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    What i mean is that we must have a world without war.
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    Re: gotta be careful wht u say on the internet

    format_quote Originally Posted by ISLAMASWEENEY View Post
    What i mean is that we must have a world without war.

    Do you think it's likely that we'll ever reach that state? If we take the history of the world into consideration, it seems improbable; indeed, considering human nature, it may be impossible.
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    Greetings,
    format_quote Originally Posted by nevesirth View Post
    i think the sentencing of these men is kinda extreme, wht if they were just acting up and dint rlly mean wht they were saying. their words may not necessarily reflect their true state of mind!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    What about their possessions?

    Compact discs with instructions for making explosives and poisons were found among their possessions and documents showing how to use a rocket-propelled grenade and make booby traps and a suicide vest.
    I suppose it's OK to have nutters going around with interests like this?

    format_quote Originally Posted by nevesirth
    i believe some where jst indulging in some twisted humour or some kind of role play!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Like this, you mean?

    format_quote Originally Posted by Mizanur Rahman
    We want to see them coming home in body bags. We want to see their blood running in the streets of Baghdad.

    We want to see the mujahideen shoot down their planes the way we shoot down birds. We want to see their tanks burn in the way we burn their flags.
    That sounds like a real rib-tickler. What a comedian.

    How can you defend such people?

    Why not lock them up and throw away the key?

    Peace
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    Re: gotta be careful wht u say on the internet

    format_quote Originally Posted by czgibson View Post
    Greetings,


    What about their possessions?



    I suppose it's OK to have nutters going around with interests like this?



    Like this, you mean?



    That sounds like a real rib-tickler. What a comedian.

    How can you defend such people?

    Why not lock them up and throw away the key?

    Peace
    i sincerely hope none of these guys is a member of LI!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
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    Greetings,
    format_quote Originally Posted by nevesirth View Post
    i sincerely hope none of these guys is a member of LI!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
    Sorry to be petulant, but may I ask again:

    How can you defend such people?

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    Re: gotta be careful wht u say on the internet

    format_quote Originally Posted by czgibson View Post
    Greetings,


    Sorry to be petulant, but may I ask again:

    How can you defend such people?

    Peace
    i never defended them. im just looking at their cases objectively. they might have been ignorant and oblivious to the consequences of their actions or utterances, thts all im saying. im not defending them neither do i support such views!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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