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    Most Britons now believe the Muslim faith is a threat to Western democracy?

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    The Daily Mail writes:

    [S]"Most Britons now believe the Muslim faith is a threat to Western democracy, a new survey has revealed."
    "The level of paranoia against Muslims was highlighted last week when two British Asian students were thrown off a holiday flight returning to Britain from Spain because fellow passengers feared they were terrorists - because they were wearing leather jackets, were heard speaking Arabic and seen looking at their watches."[/S]I wonder! What happened to these educated and broadminded people such as Britons! What a misunderstanding is spreading among our western friends about Islam and Muslims! It is a plain truth is that Islam has not any hidden agenda, but it has a clear and open agenda before mankind. It aims the good feature of mankind. It's manifesto is very clear and understandable. It is The Holy Quraa'n. I t is a open Book. It was revealed for the mankind by the God to save them from the darkness in to the light. It claims:
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    Re: Most Britons now believe the Muslim faith is a threat to Western democracy?

    "Most Britons now believe the Muslim faith is a threat to Western democracy, a new survey has revealed."
    That does not necessarily have to be a bad thing. Yes islam is a very valid threat to lawlesness, intoxication, drug dealing , pornography and many other issues.

    Can't the Quote also be read as:

    "Most Britons now believe Morality is a threat to Western democracy, a new survey has revealed."
    Am I the only one who see's it as a failure that the same can not be said about Christianity and Judaism? If they were practiced as was Intended wouldn't these statements also be true:

    "Most Britons now believe the Jewish faith is a threat to Western democracy, a new survey has revealed."
    "Most Britons now believe the Christian faith is a threat to Western democracy, a new survey has revealed."
    would we be showing true Imam if many did not see us as a threat to their life styles?

    Yes we are are threat, but our image should be one of peace and love, not of fear. We can be a threat to what we see as the worlds evils, but we can do it out of love, understanding and compassion.
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    Re: Most Britons now believe the Muslim faith is a threat to Western democracy?

    It was a bad survey question anyway. Perhaps "Is terrorism a threat to Western democracy?" might have been a better question.
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    Re: Most Britons now believe the Muslim faith is a threat to Western democracy?

    format_quote Originally Posted by Keltoi View Post
    It was a bad survey question anyway. Perhaps "Is terrorism a threat to Western democracy?" might have been a better question.
    I agree. That makes sense.
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    Re: Most Britons now believe the Muslim faith is a threat to Western democracy?

    format_quote Originally Posted by Woodrow View Post
    That does not necessarily have to be a bad thing. Yes islam is a very valid threat to lawlesness, intoxication, drug dealing , pornography and many other issues.


    mashaallah well said! yes islam is a threat, but at the moment the west and the middle east it self is a threat to muslims- not the other way around.
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    Re: Most Britons now believe the Muslim faith is a threat to Western democracy?

    format_quote Originally Posted by Woodrow
    Yes we are are threat, but our image should be one of peace and love, not of fear.

    Currently its a message of fear. Thats why we come to this forum. We don't go to the Baptist's forum.
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    Islam is Salvation for the west but they don't won't to give up their kufur lifestlye shame that some will only see the truth when it's too late.
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    Re: Most Britons now believe the Muslim faith is a threat to Western democracy?

    format_quote Originally Posted by Joe98 View Post
    Currently its a message of fear. Thats why we come to this forum. We don't go to the Baptist's forum.
    Glad you did come here no matter why. It is always beneficial to share views by knowing each other we open the doors for understanding.
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    Re: Most Britons now believe the Muslim faith is a threat to Western democracy?

    format_quote Originally Posted by islam-truth View Post


    Islam is Salvation for the west but they don't won't to give up their kufur lifestlye shame that some will only see the truth when it's too late.
    Unfortunately for you, MANY people do not view Islam as salvation. Many people view Christianity, Judaism, Buddhism, Atheism, etc as salvation.
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    Re: Most Britons now believe the Muslim faith is a threat to Western democracy?

    format_quote Originally Posted by ACC View Post
    Unfortunately for you, MANY people do not view Islam as salvation. Many people view Christianity, Judaism, Buddhism, Atheism, etc as salvation.

    Unfortunatly come judgement day, there will be MANY people who will discover that they had never submmitted to the will of Allah(swt)
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    Re: Most Britons now believe the Muslim faith is a threat to Western democracy?

    format_quote Originally Posted by Woodrow View Post
    Unfortunatly come judgement day, there will be MANY people who will discover that they had never submmitted to the will of Allah(swt)
    Or that they did not believe in Jesus as the son of God.....insert other religious beliefs with the end of times here. I guess we will find out someday.
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    Re: Most Britons now believe the Muslim faith is a threat to Western democracy?

    Or the fact that they never believed that their own Creator should be worshipped alone. Common sense is that a person is responsible for their actions, not just because they believe in a system.


    I won't get anywhere within the UK by saying 'i accept the government and it's rulings' - because i know that if i go against it, i'm going to have to pay for my crime. The same can be said about one's crimes in this life.


    Anyway - referring to the thread, i do feel that it is our fault as muslims by not conveying the message to the people about islamic monotheism. This is one of the reasons they feel that we are a threat, because they don't know who we are or what our beliefs are.



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    Re: Most Britons now believe the Muslim faith is a threat to Western democracy?

    format_quote Originally Posted by Fi_Sabilillah View Post
    Anyway - referring to the thread, i do feel that it is our fault as muslims by not conveying the message to the people about islamic monotheism. This is one of the reasons they feel that we are a threat, because they don't know who we are or what our beliefs are.



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    Very good point. There has to be reasons why so many people see the word Muslim as meaning Terrorism. This is a fairly new issue for most of the people living today. It seems there was a period of tolerance for a number of years and now in recent years the 2 words have become synonimous to many. We can blame some of that on outside sources, but much of it is the result of our own actions and/inactions we all need to take a more active role in living as a Muslim is expected to live.
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    Re: Most Britons now believe the Muslim faith is a threat to Western democracy?

    format_quote Originally Posted by Woodrow View Post
    Unfortunatly come judgement day, there will be MANY people who will discover that they had never submmitted to the will of Allah(swt)
    I have, so i have nothing to fear!
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    Re: Most Britons now believe the Muslim faith is a threat to Western democracy?

    Greetings and peace be with you kader, it is tragic that we are living in this climate of fear.

    I think western democracy is more responsible for terrorism, but we should not fear terrorism as much as we should fear other things.

    There is more chance of getting killed in a road accident than from a terrorist attack, but do we fear cars?
    There is more chance of dying from lung cancer, but do we fear the tobacco companies?

    And so the list could go on and on.

    I believe we should look to build friendships with our Muslim brothers, I saw a wonderful story of such an event posted by Woodrow.

    Do any of you live near Southampton in the UK?

    In the spirit of seeking interfaith friendships

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    Re: Most Britons now believe the Muslim faith is a threat to Western democracy?

    "Most Britons now believe Morality is a threat to Western democracy, a new survey has revealed."
    Oh yes, the Arab world and Islamic countries are perfect examples for "moral" countries.

    Yep, that must be it.
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    Re: Most Britons now believe the Muslim faith is a threat to Western democracy?

    format_quote Originally Posted by kader View Post

    The Daily Mail writes:
    Ah, the Mail, a most respectable publication indeed. It's right up there with the Sun, the Mirror and the Beano.

    [S]"Most Britons now believe the Muslim faith is a threat to Western democracy, a new survey has revealed."
    "The level of paranoia against Muslims was highlighted last week when two British Asian students were thrown off a holiday flight returning to Britain from Spain because fellow passengers feared they were terrorists - because they were wearing leather jackets, were heard speaking Arabic and seen looking at their watches."[/S]
    I'm interested in how many participants there were in this survey. I'm also interested to learn if other publications have reported this, or if it was merely a publicity stunt of sorts to sell this most revered daily paper.
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    Re: Most Britons now believe the Muslim faith is a threat to Western democracy?

    format_quote Originally Posted by ManchesterFolk View Post
    Oh yes, the Arab world and Islamic countries are perfect examples for "moral" countries.

    Yep, that must be it.
    What Islamic countries do you believe are immoral?
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    Re: Most Britons now believe the Muslim faith is a threat to Western democracy?

    format_quote Originally Posted by Eric H View Post
    I think western democracy is more responsible for terrorism, but we should not fear terrorism as much as we should fear other things.

    There is more chance of getting killed in a road accident than from a terrorist attack, but do we fear cars?
    There is more chance of dying from lung cancer, but do we fear the tobacco companies?

    And so the list could go on and on.

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    I Agree!! - When our number is up, be it a heart attack or a natural death or perhaps get blown to smithereens, we have no say in the matter, what ever the Lord does, he will continue to do so, regardless of what us mortals say or do!

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    Re: Most Britons now believe the Muslim faith is a threat to Western democracy?

    format_quote Originally Posted by Woodrow View Post
    What Islamic countries do you believe are immoral?
    Iran jails and kills activists for freedom of speach and promotes war in the region via Hezbollah.

    Syria jails people like Mr. Yacoub Hanna Shamoun, an Assyrian Christian from Syria who has been detained without due process for over twenty years in Syria's horrendous AlSaydnaia prison. And denies freedom of speach on all levels that oposses there goverments agenda.

    Saudi Arabia is a traditional Islamic monarchy following the orthodox ******* Sunni religion. In the kingdom all political opposition is forbidden. There are strict limitations on the freedom of speech and the press, and the legal code is based on the Sharia. This legal code provides for severe punishments including amputation, whipping and execution. There is no freedom of religion for Christians, and the Shia minority is strictly supervised. Women are clearly the object of discrimination.

    Tunisia Human rights organizations accuse the Tunisian government of contravening the rights of journalists, political activists and human rights supporters. About a thousand political prisoners are in jail, while many more are harrassed by the authorities. Demonstrations are put down with ferocity.

    Libya, a dictatorship, has no local human rights NGOs. The law forbids political parties or criticism of the regime. The press is state-controlled. Opposition figures are jailed without trial and often tortured. In September 2000 there were racially-motivated attacks on Africans from southern Sahara leaving many dead and injured.

    I could name many more countries but i'll stop before I write way to long of the post when I should be doing some work.

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