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    After Scotland and Canada, Turkey also approves Hijab as part of women’s police uniform

    Female officers ‘will be able to cover their heads’ under their caps or berets for the first time


    The focus on Muslim women’s attire continues to make headlines, this time again for the right reasons. Scotland’s Police Force and Canada’s Royal Canadian Mounted Police recently passed permission to allow Muslim women to wear Hijab as part of their police uniform. Now, Turkey has been able to get rid of a ban on Hijab in the police force – one which was put under the secular rule of Mustafa Kemal Atatürk.

    Female police officers “will be able to cover their heads” under their caps or berets with a headscarf “the same colour as the uniform and without pattern” while on duty, the official gazette and AFP reported on Saturday.

    Rulings published in the official gazette come into force immediately. President Recep Tayyip Erdogan’s Islamic-rooted Justice and Development Party (AKP) has long pressed for the removal of restrictions on women wearing the headscarf in the officially secular state.

    In 2010, an official ban on headscarves in universities was lifted throughout the country. Three years later, women were allowed to wear the hijab in state institutions and the prohibition was abandoned for students in high schools in 2014. Though, the ban still remains on female judges and soldiers.

    Erdogan’s critics have long accused the president of eating away at the secular pillars of modern Turkey as set up by its founder Mustafa Kemal Ataturk when he established the Turkish republic in 1923.

    But pro-government media pointed out that several Western states have already granted female officers permission to wear the headscarf.

    http://muslimcouncil.org.hk/after-sc...olice-uniform/


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    "eating away at secular pillars of modern Turkey"? More like undoing the secular extremism by the yahoodi tyrant kemal AtaKuffar imposed on the Muslim nation.
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    Re: Turkey also approves Hijab as part of women’s police uniform



    Jazakallah for the info.

    May all other Muslim countries follow this example. Any idea is such practise is followed in Dubai, Pakistan & Bangladesh, ?
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    Re: Turkey also approves Hijab as part of women’s police uniform

    format_quote Originally Posted by islamirama View Post

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    "eating away at secular pillars of modern Turkey"? More like undoing the secular extremism by the yahoodi tyrant kemal AtaKuffar imposed on the Muslim nation.
    I support the abolishment of hijab ban in Turkey and I was OK with your post until reading the last part. I think it becomes a trend within Muslims to bash Atatürk nowadays. You must be either very ignorant or extremely brain washed to call him "yahoodi tyrant kemal AtaKuffar ".. What proof do you have to call him a jew? Obviously he was not a jew. What makes him a tyrant? What makes him Atakuffar "Father of Kuffar"? Was he worse than Abu Jahil? Give me your proof..
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    May Allah bless Erdogan. Amin
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    Re: Turkey also approves Hijab as part of women’s police uniform

    May Allah save Turkish people from all tyrants - remember that to some Turkish Erdogan is now new tyrant.

    Anyways, we should to be very careful when we call anyone as "kafiir", specially if we are talking about Muslim. Only Allah knows what is in the heart of others.

    Same if we call a Muslim as Jew.
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    We have suffered too much for too long. We will not accept apartheid masked as peace. We will settle for no less than our freedom.



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    Re: Turkey also approves Hijab as part of women’s police uniform

    format_quote Originally Posted by sister herb View Post
    May Allah save Turkish people from all tyrants - remember that to some Turkish Erdogan is now new tyrant.

    Anyways, we should to be very careful when we call anyone as "kafiir", specially if we are talking about Muslim. Only Allah knows what is in the heart of others.

    Same if we call a Muslim as Jew.
    Ones who call Erdogan a tyrant are the secular drunken turks and not the Muslims who see the good he is doing for his people.

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    Re: Turkey also approves Hijab as part of women’s police uniform

    With the help of Allah on our side, nothing can get in our way.

    may Allah guide us all. Ameen.
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    Meaning of Tawheed according to The Qur'an
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    Re: Turkey also approves Hijab as part of women’s police uniform

    format_quote Originally Posted by anatolian View Post
    I was OK with your post until reading the last part. I think it becomes a trend within Muslims to bash Atatürk nowadays. You must be either very ignorant or extremely brain washed to call him "yahoodi tyrant kemal AtaKuffar ".. What proof do you have to call him a jew? Obviously he was not a jew. What makes him a tyrant? What makes him Atakuffar "Father of Kuffar"? Was he worse than Abu Jahil? Give me your proof..
    I say he was worse than if not worst as abu jahil. He was the abu jahil of his times.

    Go do some research on AtaYahood before you look more like an idiot for calling others what you are. Here's a start:



    and here : http://www.atajew.com/
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    God save the Sultan.
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    Re: Turkey also approves Hijab as part of women’s police uniform

    salaam

    Even if ataturk was an ethnic Jew so what?? Lets not forget the arab uprising that led to the end of the Ottoman sultanate and the start of the mess afterwards.
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    Do you think the pious don't sin?

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    Sought forgiveness and didn't persist
    Took ownership of it and don't justify it
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    Re: Turkey also approves Hijab as part of women’s police uniform

    format_quote Originally Posted by islamirama View Post
    I say he was worse than if not worst as abu jahil. He was the abu jahil of his times.

    Go do some research on AtaYahood before you look more like an idiot for calling others what you are. Here's a start:



    and here : http://www.atajew.com/
    I didnt call you an idiot. I called you either ignorant or brain washed. Now if you want to use an insulting language I can use the same language as well but they close your thread so I am not going to use the same language of yours. You are the one who name people as we see from your post.

    As for this video you posted for an evidence of "jewishness" of Atatürk it is just rubbish. It doesnt give any proof. His father had modern views so he went to a western style school which was managed by a Sabbataist/Dönmeh. His knowing "Shema Israel" doesnt proove that he was a jew. The jews of Thessaloniki were Sephardic ethnic jews which you cannot see blonde hair and blue eye. He had Slavic roots if not Turk. And you really ridicule yourselves and us muslims by calling everybody "jew" which you dont like. Get rid off this. Give me real evidence for your above claims..

    PS: And for the title of the video calling him a British agent is beyond ignorance..He was the one who kicked their asses from Turkey.
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    Re: Turkey also approves Hijab as part of women’s police uniform

    format_quote Originally Posted by islamirama View Post
    After Scotland and Canada, Turkey also approves Hijab as part of women’s police uniform

    Female officers ‘will be able to cover their heads’ under their caps or berets for the first time


    The focus on Muslim women’s attire continues to make headlines, this time again for the right reasons. Scotland’s Police Force and Canada’s Royal Canadian Mounted Police recently passed permission to allow Muslim women to wear Hijab as part of their police uniform. Now, Turkey has been able to get rid of a ban on Hijab in the police force – one which was put under the secular rule of Mustafa Kemal Atatürk.

    Female police officers “will be able to cover their heads” under their caps or berets with a headscarf “the same colour as the uniform and without pattern” while on duty, the official gazette and AFP reported on Saturday.

    Rulings published in the official gazette come into force immediately. President Recep Tayyip Erdogan’s Islamic-rooted Justice and Development Party (AKP) has long pressed for the removal of restrictions on women wearing the headscarf in the officially secular state.

    In 2010, an official ban on headscarves in universities was lifted throughout the country. Three years later, women were allowed to wear the hijab in state institutions and the prohibition was abandoned for students in high schools in 2014. Though, the ban still remains on female judges and soldiers.

    Erdogan’s critics have long accused the president of eating away at the secular pillars of modern Turkey as set up by its founder Mustafa Kemal Ataturk when he established the Turkish republic in 1923.

    But pro-government media pointed out that several Western states have already granted female officers permission to wear the headscarf.

    http://muslimcouncil.org.hk/after-sc...olice-uniform/


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    "eating away at secular pillars of modern Turkey"? More like undoing the secular extremism by the yahoodi tyrant kemal AtaKuffar imposed on the Muslim nation.
    Ataturk did great things for my nation......don't insult him....
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    Re: Turkey also approves Hijab as part of women’s police uniform

    format_quote Originally Posted by anatolian View Post
    I didnt call you an idiot. I called you either ignorant or brain washed. Now if you want to use an insulting language I can use the same language as well but they close your thread so I am not going to use the same language of yours. You are the one who name people as we see from your post.

    As for this video you posted for an evidence of "jewishness" of Atatürk it is just rubbish. It doesnt give any proof. His father had modern views so he went to a western style school which was managed by a Sabbataist/Dönmeh. His knowing "Shema Israel" doesnt proove that he was a jew. The jews of Thessaloniki were Sephardic ethnic jews which you cannot see blonde hair and blue eye. He had Slavic roots if not Turk. And you really ridicule yourselves and us muslims by calling everybody "jew" which you dont like. Get rid off this. Give me real evidence for your above claims..

    PS: And for the title of the video calling him a British agent is beyond ignorance..He was the one who kicked their asses from Turkey.
    I'm not going to hunting for articles or videos that will satisfy you as you clearly are a product of kemalist society and not much will satisfy you. I suggest you do your own research with an open mind.

    The following quotations about the Jewish dictator Mustafa Kemal were published in Western news media during his reign:

    - TIME, January 9, 1933, page 64:

    Squinting skyward last week, Turks looked for the new moon. When they should see it Ramadan would begin. Ramadan the mystic month in which the Koran was revealed to Prophet Mohammed. This year the first glint of the new moon had a special, dread significance. Turks had been ordered by their stern dictator, Mustafa Kemal Pasha who made them drop the veil and the fez (TIME, Feb. 15, 1926 et seq.), that beginning with Ramadan they must no longer call their god by his Arabic name, Allah.

    No godly man, Dictator Kemal considers that there is no reason why Turks should not call Allah by his Turkish name Tanri. There is no reason except centuries of tradition, no reason except that Turkish imams (priests) all know the Koran by heart in Arabic while few if any have memorized it in Turkish. Strict to the point of cruelty last week was Dictator Kemal's decree that muezzins, calling the faithful to prayer from the top of Turkey's minarets, must shout not the hallowed "Allah Akbar!" (Arabic for "God is Great!") but the unfamiliar words "Tanri Uludur!" which mean the same thing in Turkish.

    When imams threatened to suspend services in the mosques and hide the prayer rugs, the Government announced that it was holding 400 brand-new prayer rugs in reserve, threatened to produce "newly trained muezzins who know the Koran in Turkish and are ready to jump into the breach." .........

    Nearer & nearer crept the moon to crescent. Ramadan was almost upon Turkey when officials of the Department of Culture (which includes religion) screwed up their courage and told Dictator Kemal that he simply could not change the name of Turkey's god - at least not last week. Already several muezzins had been thrown into jail for announcing that they would continue to shout "Allah Akbar!" The populace was getting ugly, obviously sympathized with the Allah-shouters.

    Abruptly Dictator Kemal yielded "Let them pray as they please, temporarily" he growled. Beaming, his Minister rushed off to proclaim the glad respite only a few hours before the new moon appeared. "On account of the general unpreparedness of muezzins and imams," they suavely declared, "prayers may be offered and the Koran recited in Arabic during the present month of Ramadan, but discourse by the imams must be in Turkish."

    During Ramadan all Moslems are especially irritable because they eat nothing during the hours of daylight. After the fasting is over Turks will be more tractable, may accept from their Dictator a new name for their God.


    - TIME, February 20, 1933, page 18:

    Word for God
    A hard father to his people, Mustafa Kemal told his Turks last December that they must forget God in the Arabic language (Allah), learn Him in Turkish (Tanri). Admitting the delicacy of renaming a 1300-year-old god, Kemal gave the muezzins a time allowance to learn the Koran in Turkish. Last week in pious Brusa, the "green city", a muezzin hallowed "Tanri Uludur" from one of the minarets whence Brusans had heard "Allah Akbar" since the 14th Century. Raging at Kemal Pasha's god, they mobbed the muezzin, mobbed the police who came to save him.

    Quick to defend his new word for God, quicker to show new Turkey the fate of the old-fashioned, Kemal the Ghazi, "the Victorious One," pounced on Brusa, had 60 of the faithful arrested, ousted the Mufti (ecclesiastical judge) of the Ouglubjami mosque and decreed that henceforth God was Tanri.


    - TIME, February 15, 1926, page 15-16:

    "Turkey presents today the most promising and challenging field on the face of the earth for missionary service."
    Thus wrote James L. Barton, missionary executive, in last week's issue of 'Christian Work.' But first he summarized the revolutionary changes in Turkey since 1923. The changes: ......... For a hundred years Christian missionaries have struggled hopelessly to capture the hearts of the Caliph-awed Turks. They had come, said Mr. Barton, to suspect that "the Moslem was outside the sphere of the operation of divine grace."

    * * * * *

    - Turkey, Emil Lengyel, 1941, page 134:

    Kemal cared nothing about Allah; he was interested in himself and in Turkey. He hated Allah and made him responsible for Turkey's misfortune. It was Allah's tyrannical rule that paralyzed the hands of the Turk. But he knew that Allah was real to the Turkish peasant, while nationalism meant nothing to him. He decided, therefore, to draft Allah into his service as the publicity director of his national cause. Through Allah's aid his people must cease to be Mohammedans and become Turks. Then, after Allah had served Kemal's purpose, he could discard Him.

    - page 140-141:

    During the early days of Mustafa Kemal's career, many of his followers were under the impression that he was a champion of Islam and that they were fighting the Christians. "Ghazi, Destroyer of Christians" was the name they gave him. Had they been aware of his real intentions, they would have called him "Ghazi, Destroyer of Islam."

    * * * * *

    - Grey Wolf, Mustafa Kemal: An Intimate Study of a Dictator, H.C. Armstrong, 1934

    He was drinking heavily. The drink stimulated him, gave him energy, but increased his irritability. Both in private and public he was sarcastic, brutal and abrupt. He flared up at the least criticism. He cut short all attempts to reason with him. He flew into a passion at the least opposition. He would neither confide in nor co-operate with anyone. When one politician gave him some harmless advice, he roughly told him to get out. When a venerable member of the Cabinet suggested that it was unseemly for Turkish ladies to dance in public, he threw a Koran at him and chased him out of his office with a stick.

    - page 241:

    "For five hundred years these rules and theories of an Arab sheik," he said, "and the interpretations of generations of lazy, good-for-nothing priests have decided the civil and the criminal law of Turkey."

    "They had decided the form of the constitution, the details of the lives of each Turk, his food, his hours of rising and sleeping, the shape of his clothes, the routine of the midwife who produced his children, what he learnt in his schools, his customs, his thoughts, even his most intimate habits.

    "Islam, this theology of an immoral Arab(prophet muhammad), is a dead thing." Possibly it might have suited tribes of nomads in the desert. It was no good for a modern progressive State.

    "God's revelation!" There was no God. That was one of the chains by which the priests and bad rulers bound the people down.

    "A ruler who needs religion to help him rule is a weakling. No weakling should rule.."

    And the priests! How he hated them. The lazy, unproductive priests who ate up the sustenance of the people. He would chase them out of their mosques and monasteries to work like men.

    Religion! He would tear religion from Turkey as one might tear the throttling ivy away to save a young tree.

    - page 243:

    Further, it was public knowledge that he was irreligious, broke all the rules of decency, and scoffed at sacred things. He had chased the Sheik-ul-Islam, the High Priest of Islam, out of his office and thrown the Koran after him. He had forced the women in Angora to unveil. He had encouraged them to dance body close to body with accursed foreign men and Christians.

    * * * * *

    - Ataturk, The Rebirth of a Nation, Lord Kinross, 1965, page 437:

    For Kemal, Islam and civilization were a contradiction in terms. "If only," he once said of the Turks, with a flash of cynical insight, "we could make them Christians!" His was not to be the reformed Islamic state for which the Faithful were waiting: it was to be a strictly lay state, with a centralized Government as strong as the Sultan's, backed by the army and run by his own intellectual bureaucracy.

    - page 470:

    The cleavage in his musical tastes emerged in Istanbul, where he once had two orchestras, one Turkish and one European, brought to the Park Hotel. He listened with constant interruptions, commanding one to stop and the other to play in turn. Finally, as the raki (an alcoholic drink) took effect, he lost patience and rose to leave the restaurant, saying, "Now if you like you can both play together." Another evening, incensed by the sound of the muezzin from a mosque opposite, which clashed with the dance-band, he ordered its minaret to be felled - one of those orders which was countermanded next morning.

    - page 365:

    Some confusion as to his identity persisted, however, for some years to come. Inspecting some soldiers in Anatolia, Kemal once asked, "Who is God and where does He live? "

    The soldier, anxious to please, replied, "God is Mustafa Kemal Pasha. He lives in Angora."

    "And where is Angora? " Kemal asked.

    "Angora is in Istanbul," was the reply.

    Farther down the line he asked another soldier, "Who is Mustafa Kemal? "

    The reply was, "Our Sultan."

    * * * * *

    The fact that he was a despot dictator cannot be denied. It was his cruelty and sadistic treatment of Muslims that makes him stand out as one of the worst enemies of Allah. The above excerpts were only what were reported and recorded by mostly Western observers. The extent of what actually went on in the new Turkey by the direct policy of jewish dictator Mustafa Kemal, was heinous to say the least. He was an enemy of Allah to the core.

    format_quote Originally Posted by Mustafa16 View Post
    Ataturk did great things for my nation......don't insult him....

    He may have done some good things but he did lot worst things. He practically abolished Islam.

    The caliphate had existed since the days following the death of Prophet Muhammad ﷺ, when Abu Bakr was elected as the first leader of the Muslim world. March 3rd, 1924, Atatürk and the Grand National Assembly abolished the caliphate itself and sent all remaining members of the Ottoman family into exile.

    With the caliphate out of the way, the Turkish government had more freedom to pursue policies that attacked Islamic institutions.

    Islamic education was banned in favor of secular, non-dogmatic schools. Other aspects of religious infrastructure were also torn down. The Shari’ah council to approve laws that the GNA had established just two years earlier was abolished. Religious endowments were seized and put under government control. Sufi lodges were forcefully shut down. All judges of Islamic law in the country were immediately fired, as all Shari’ah courts were closed.

    Atatürk’s attacks on Islam were not limited to the government, however. Everyday life for Turks was also dictated by Atatürk’s secular ideas:



    • Traditional Islamic forms of headdress such as turbans and the fez were outlawed in favor of Western-style hats.
    • The hijaab for women was ridiculed as a “ridiculous object” and banned in public buildings.
    • The calendar was officially changed, from the traditional Islamic calendar, based on the hijrah – Prophet Muhammad ﷺ’s flight to Madinah – to the Gregorian calendar, based on the birth of Jesus Christ.
    • In 1932, the adhan – the Muslim call to prayer – was outlawed in Arabic. Instead, it was rewritten using Turkish words and forced upon the country’s thousands of mosques.
    • Friday was no longer considered part of the weekend. Instead, Turkey was forced to follow European norms of Saturday and Sunday being days off from work.


    The biggest danger to this new order was the history of the Turks, which since the 900s had been intertwined with Islam. In order to distance the new generations of Turks from their past, Atatürk had to make the past unreadable to them.

    Atatürk advocated the replacement of Arabic letters with Latin letters. Much like Persian, Turkish was written in Arabic letters for hundreds of years after the conversion of the Turks to Islam in the 900s. In addition to the introduction of the Latin letters, Atatürk created a commission charged with the replacement of Arabic and Persian loanwords in Turkish. From Atatürk’s perspective, the language reform was wildly successful. Within a few decades, the old Ottoman Turkish was effectively extinct. The newer generations of Turks were completely cut off from the older generations, with whom simple conversations were difficult. With the Turkish people illiterate to their past, the Turkish government was able to feed them a version of history that they deemed acceptable.

    All of these reforms worked together to effectively erase Islam from the lives of the everyday Turks. Despite the best efforts of religious-minded Turks (such as Said Nursi) to preserve their heritage, language, and religion, the government’s pressure to adopt secular ideas was too much. For over 80 years, Turkish government remained vehemently secular. Attempts to bring back Islamic values into government have been met with resistance by the military, which views itself as the protector of Atatürk’s secularism.
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    format_quote Originally Posted by islamirama View Post
    I'm not going to hunting for articles or videos that will satisfy you as you clearly are a product of kemalist society and not much will satisfy you. I suggest you do your own research with an open mind.

    The following quotations about the Jewish dictator Mustafa Kemal were published in Western news media during his reign:

    - TIME, January 9, 1933, page 64:

    Squinting skyward last week, Turks looked for the new moon. When they should see it Ramadan would begin. Ramadan the mystic month in which the Koran was revealed to Prophet Mohammed. This year the first glint of the new moon had a special, dread significance. Turks had been ordered by their stern dictator, Mustafa Kemal Pasha who made them drop the veil and the fez (TIME, Feb. 15, 1926 et seq.), that beginning with Ramadan they must no longer call their god by his Arabic name, Allah.

    No godly man, Dictator Kemal considers that there is no reason why Turks should not call Allah by his Turkish name Tanri. There is no reason except centuries of tradition, no reason except that Turkish imams (priests) all know the Koran by heart in Arabic while few if any have memorized it in Turkish. Strict to the point of cruelty last week was Dictator Kemal's decree that muezzins, calling the faithful to prayer from the top of Turkey's minarets, must shout not the hallowed "Allah Akbar!" (Arabic for "God is Great!") but the unfamiliar words "Tanri Uludur!" which mean the same thing in Turkish.

    When imams threatened to suspend services in the mosques and hide the prayer rugs, the Government announced that it was holding 400 brand-new prayer rugs in reserve, threatened to produce "newly trained muezzins who know the Koran in Turkish and are ready to jump into the breach." .........

    Nearer & nearer crept the moon to crescent. Ramadan was almost upon Turkey when officials of the Department of Culture (which includes religion) screwed up their courage and told Dictator Kemal that he simply could not change the name of Turkey's god - at least not last week. Already several muezzins had been thrown into jail for announcing that they would continue to shout "Allah Akbar!" The populace was getting ugly, obviously sympathized with the Allah-shouters.

    Abruptly Dictator Kemal yielded "Let them pray as they please, temporarily" he growled. Beaming, his Minister rushed off to proclaim the glad respite only a few hours before the new moon appeared. "On account of the general unpreparedness of muezzins and imams," they suavely declared, "prayers may be offered and the Koran recited in Arabic during the present month of Ramadan, but discourse by the imams must be in Turkish."

    During Ramadan all Moslems are especially irritable because they eat nothing during the hours of daylight. After the fasting is over Turks will be more tractable, may accept from their Dictator a new name for their God.


    - TIME, February 20, 1933, page 18:

    Word for God
    A hard father to his people, Mustafa Kemal told his Turks last December that they must forget God in the Arabic language (Allah), learn Him in Turkish (Tanri). Admitting the delicacy of renaming a 1300-year-old god, Kemal gave the muezzins a time allowance to learn the Koran in Turkish. Last week in pious Brusa, the "green city", a muezzin hallowed "Tanri Uludur" from one of the minarets whence Brusans had heard "Allah Akbar" since the 14th Century. Raging at Kemal Pasha's god, they mobbed the muezzin, mobbed the police who came to save him.

    Quick to defend his new word for God, quicker to show new Turkey the fate of the old-fashioned, Kemal the Ghazi, "the Victorious One," pounced on Brusa, had 60 of the faithful arrested, ousted the Mufti (ecclesiastical judge) of the Ouglubjami mosque and decreed that henceforth God was Tanri.


    - TIME, February 15, 1926, page 15-16:

    "Turkey presents today the most promising and challenging field on the face of the earth for missionary service."
    Thus wrote James L. Barton, missionary executive, in last week's issue of 'Christian Work.' But first he summarized the revolutionary changes in Turkey since 1923. The changes: ......... For a hundred years Christian missionaries have struggled hopelessly to capture the hearts of the Caliph-awed Turks. They had come, said Mr. Barton, to suspect that "the Moslem was outside the sphere of the operation of divine grace."

    * * * * *

    - Turkey, Emil Lengyel, 1941, page 134:

    Kemal cared nothing about Allah; he was interested in himself and in Turkey. He hated Allah and made him responsible for Turkey's misfortune. It was Allah's tyrannical rule that paralyzed the hands of the Turk. But he knew that Allah was real to the Turkish peasant, while nationalism meant nothing to him. He decided, therefore, to draft Allah into his service as the publicity director of his national cause. Through Allah's aid his people must cease to be Mohammedans and become Turks. Then, after Allah had served Kemal's purpose, he could discard Him.

    - page 140-141:

    During the early days of Mustafa Kemal's career, many of his followers were under the impression that he was a champion of Islam and that they were fighting the Christians. "Ghazi, Destroyer of Christians" was the name they gave him. Had they been aware of his real intentions, they would have called him "Ghazi, Destroyer of Islam."

    * * * * *

    - Grey Wolf, Mustafa Kemal: An Intimate Study of a Dictator, H.C. Armstrong, 1934

    He was drinking heavily. The drink stimulated him, gave him energy, but increased his irritability. Both in private and public he was sarcastic, brutal and abrupt. He flared up at the least criticism. He cut short all attempts to reason with him. He flew into a passion at the least opposition. He would neither confide in nor co-operate with anyone. When one politician gave him some harmless advice, he roughly told him to get out. When a venerable member of the Cabinet suggested that it was unseemly for Turkish ladies to dance in public, he threw a Koran at him and chased him out of his office with a stick.

    - page 241:

    "For five hundred years these rules and theories of an Arab sheik," he said, "and the interpretations of generations of lazy, good-for-nothing priests have decided the civil and the criminal law of Turkey."

    "They had decided the form of the constitution, the details of the lives of each Turk, his food, his hours of rising and sleeping, the shape of his clothes, the routine of the midwife who produced his children, what he learnt in his schools, his customs, his thoughts, even his most intimate habits.

    "Islam, this theology of an immoral Arab(prophet muhammad), is a dead thing." Possibly it might have suited tribes of nomads in the desert. It was no good for a modern progressive State.

    "God's revelation!" There was no God. That was one of the chains by which the priests and bad rulers bound the people down.

    "A ruler who needs religion to help him rule is a weakling. No weakling should rule.."

    And the priests! How he hated them. The lazy, unproductive priests who ate up the sustenance of the people. He would chase them out of their mosques and monasteries to work like men.

    Religion! He would tear religion from Turkey as one might tear the throttling ivy away to save a young tree.

    - page 243:

    Further, it was public knowledge that he was irreligious, broke all the rules of decency, and scoffed at sacred things. He had chased the Sheik-ul-Islam, the High Priest of Islam, out of his office and thrown the Koran after him. He had forced the women in Angora to unveil. He had encouraged them to dance body close to body with accursed foreign men and Christians.

    * * * * *

    - Ataturk, The Rebirth of a Nation, Lord Kinross, 1965, page 437:

    For Kemal, Islam and civilization were a contradiction in terms. "If only," he once said of the Turks, with a flash of cynical insight, "we could make them Christians!" His was not to be the reformed Islamic state for which the Faithful were waiting: it was to be a strictly lay state, with a centralized Government as strong as the Sultan's, backed by the army and run by his own intellectual bureaucracy.

    - page 470:

    The cleavage in his musical tastes emerged in Istanbul, where he once had two orchestras, one Turkish and one European, brought to the Park Hotel. He listened with constant interruptions, commanding one to stop and the other to play in turn. Finally, as the raki (an alcoholic drink) took effect, he lost patience and rose to leave the restaurant, saying, "Now if you like you can both play together." Another evening, incensed by the sound of the muezzin from a mosque opposite, which clashed with the dance-band, he ordered its minaret to be felled - one of those orders which was countermanded next morning.

    - page 365:

    Some confusion as to his identity persisted, however, for some years to come. Inspecting some soldiers in Anatolia, Kemal once asked, "Who is God and where does He live? "

    The soldier, anxious to please, replied, "God is Mustafa Kemal Pasha. He lives in Angora."

    "And where is Angora? " Kemal asked.

    "Angora is in Istanbul," was the reply.

    Farther down the line he asked another soldier, "Who is Mustafa Kemal? "

    The reply was, "Our Sultan."

    * * * * *

    The fact that he was a despot dictator cannot be denied. It was his cruelty and sadistic treatment of Muslims that makes him stand out as one of the worst enemies of Allah. The above excerpts were only what were reported and recorded by mostly Western observers. The extent of what actually went on in the new Turkey by the direct policy of jewish dictator Mustafa Kemal, was heinous to say the least. He was an enemy of Allah to the core.




    He may have done some good things but he did lot worst things. He practically abolished Islam.

    The caliphate had existed since the days following the death of Prophet Muhammad ﷺ, when Abu Bakr was elected as the first leader of the Muslim world. March 3rd, 1924, Atatürk and the Grand National Assembly abolished the caliphate itself and sent all remaining members of the Ottoman family into exile.

    With the caliphate out of the way, the Turkish government had more freedom to pursue policies that attacked Islamic institutions.

    Islamic education was banned in favor of secular, non-dogmatic schools. Other aspects of religious infrastructure were also torn down. The Shari’ah council to approve laws that the GNA had established just two years earlier was abolished. Religious endowments were seized and put under government control. Sufi lodges were forcefully shut down. All judges of Islamic law in the country were immediately fired, as all Shari’ah courts were closed.

    Atatürk’s attacks on Islam were not limited to the government, however. Everyday life for Turks was also dictated by Atatürk’s secular ideas:



    • Traditional Islamic forms of headdress such as turbans and the fez were outlawed in favor of Western-style hats.
    • The hijaab for women was ridiculed as a “ridiculous object” and banned in public buildings.
    • The calendar was officially changed, from the traditional Islamic calendar, based on the hijrah – Prophet Muhammad ﷺ’s flight to Madinah – to the Gregorian calendar, based on the birth of Jesus Christ.
    • In 1932, the adhan – the Muslim call to prayer – was outlawed in Arabic. Instead, it was rewritten using Turkish words and forced upon the country’s thousands of mosques.
    • Friday was no longer considered part of the weekend. Instead, Turkey was forced to follow European norms of Saturday and Sunday being days off from work.


    The biggest danger to this new order was the history of the Turks, which since the 900s had been intertwined with Islam. In order to distance the new generations of Turks from their past, Atatürk had to make the past unreadable to them.

    Atatürk advocated the replacement of Arabic letters with Latin letters. Much like Persian, Turkish was written in Arabic letters for hundreds of years after the conversion of the Turks to Islam in the 900s. In addition to the introduction of the Latin letters, Atatürk created a commission charged with the replacement of Arabic and Persian loanwords in Turkish. From Atatürk’s perspective, the language reform was wildly successful. Within a few decades, the old Ottoman Turkish was effectively extinct. The newer generations of Turks were completely cut off from the older generations, with whom simple conversations were difficult. With the Turkish people illiterate to their past, the Turkish government was able to feed them a version of history that they deemed acceptable.

    All of these reforms worked together to effectively erase Islam from the lives of the everyday Turks. Despite the best efforts of religious-minded Turks (such as Said Nursi) to preserve their heritage, language, and religion, the government’s pressure to adopt secular ideas was too much. For over 80 years, Turkish government remained vehemently secular. Attempts to bring back Islamic values into government have been met with resistance by the military, which views itself as the protector of Atatürk’s secularism.
    Those western media called him a dictator because imperialist west never liked him and their media use this terminology to discredit him. He influenced all the other anti-imperialist movements in the undeveloped countries after him. Probably some of those stories were just invented for this purpose. You dont have to be so clever to observe that. I can show you some narratives about him which you even dont expect from so Called islamic leaders. I dont claim that he was an Islamic leader. He was a secularist nationalist but you just attack him with something he is not. At least you will think twice before insulting him where there are honorable turks around..
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    Re: Turkey also approves Hijab as part of women’s police uniform

    Brother,

    Ask any Islamic scholar and he will tell you kemal was a thagout. He was an enemy of Islam. Only ones rooting for him will be the nationalists and those admiring kemalist ideology.
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