Hope this Home Secretary stops him from entering, but I doubt it. I think enough damage is already done with the whole Paranoma program and such, most of the British Public are already against Islam, this is just making things worst - all topled together with lies and misconceptions.
Campaigners are calling for a controversial US pastor to be banned from entering the UK to share his views on Islam with activists.
Terry Jones attracted condemnation when he threatened to burn copies of the Koran on this year's 9/11 anniversary.
He said his presence at an English Defence League rally in February would be "positive" but he admitted he would preach against "extremist Muslims".
Anti-extremist group Hope Not Hate is urging the home secretary to act.
The EDL said on its Facebook page that the rally in Luton, Bedfordshire, on 5 February would be "our biggest to date". It said Mr Jones would be joining the organisation to "speak out against the evils of Islam".
Mr Jones told BBC 5 Live he had "no intention" of burning the Koran in the UK and said his speech would be "on harmony, on the subject that Muslims are welcome in our country".
He said: "We have no problem with Muslims - we have freedom of speech and religion - Muslims who want to make our country their country, obey our laws and constitution.
"We have a problem with them, which I believe you all have also, when they go on the street... and they call for the death of the UK, for the death of Israel, for the death of America. They call for Sharia law.
"They say they are going to turn Buckingham Palace into a mosque and the Queen must convert to Islam or leave the country."
'Intimidation and division'
Mr Jones admitted that his knowledge of the EDL was "somewhat limited".
"It's only what I know through conversations with them that my office has had and then of course the different material in the internet that they have put out. I would describe them as a group who, I believe, in their words they want England to stay English."
Anti-extremist group Hope not Hate condemned the invitation to Mr Jones and has launched a petition calling on the home secretary to ban him from entering the UK.
Its director Nick Lowles said: "Only extremists will benefit from his visit and, as we know, extremism breeds hatred and hatred breeds violence.
"It is yet another example of how the EDL exists only to sow the seeds of intimidation and division."
A Home Office spokesman said: "We do not routinely comment on individual cases."
Home Secretary Theresa May has the power to exclude an individual from coming to the UK if she considers that the individual's presence here would not be conducive to the public good.
Source - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-11977945
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-11977945
So Zakir Naik is banned outright, but they need to sit down and think about Terry Jones?
This part is also funny:
In his interview a few months ago he said he hasn't even read the Quran, but now he is an expert about "the evils of Islam"?The EDL said on its Facebook page that the rally in Luton, Bedfordshire, on 5 February would be "our biggest to date". It said Mr Jones would be joining the organisation to "speak out against the evils of Islam".
Threads merged.
Asalaamu Alaikum,
What's sad is the big support the guy is getting from the majority of the non-Muslim British public. He is going to enter the UK.
Some people will pull any old nonsense out of their backside for a bit of attention and/or lucrative public speaking fees.format_quote Originally Posted by Terry Jones
I don't care. Let him come. He has nothing new to say. He is going to repeat the usual rubbish echoed by the mainstream media. EDL and Terry Jones deserve each other and I am quite happy for them to drown in their own hysteria. I hope Muslims do not give him any sort publicity, because that is what he desires.
Even if he did, the yobs at the EDL won't really be listening anyway. They'll be straining their meagre mental capacity looking for the nearest copper to attack and the nearest pub in which to get hammered for the sufficient Dutch courage to do so.format_quote Originally Posted by Guestfellow
I don't care. Let him come. He has nothing new to say.
Dr Zakir Naik is an educated person, while this Terryrist Jones is a hate preacher; I see British politicians aren't really interested in banning the real hate preachers.format_quote Originally Posted by Daglesshttp://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-11977945
So Zakir Naik is banned outright, but they need to sit down and think about Terry Jones?
This part is also funny:
In his interview a few months ago he said he hasn't even read the Quran, but now he is an expert about "the evils of Islam"?
Living here in the USA I am a bit selfish and appreciate any opportunity to get Terry Jones out of the USA, Now if we could only block his returning here if he does go to the UK.
I do feel sorry for the UK if we manage to exile him from the USA, But, I will support the UK in any way I can to help them get him out of the UK as long as we don't have to take him back.
Its possible for even people like Terry, to accept Islam. It reminds me of the story of Thumamah bin Uthal, who set out "to kill" the Prophetformat_quote Originally Posted by Woodrow, and eventually accepted Islam himself, and even went to Makkah, shouting praise to Allah. The Makkan people beat him, and released him upon finding out who he is.
actually the EDL have revoked their invitation, they don't want him to come anymore because he's said things against homo's and jews
Who cares about this person? He wanted to burn a book. So what?
People are blowing themselves up because of their belief in Islam. That seems to me to be a much bigger problem.
Can we discuss that?
Thanks for the update. I read it on bbcnews earlier, it was quite funny.format_quote Originally Posted by aadil77
format_quote Originally Posted by Mike3449
go discuss it with your friend terry
all the best
In another, existing, thread, sure you can. Just use the search function.format_quote Originally Posted by Mike3449
Does that mean we should ignore the issue?format_quote Originally Posted by Mike3449
You maybe surprised, but we as Muslims are against both- suicide, and the killing of innocents.format_quote Originally Posted by Mike3449
An extract of one of my earlier posts:
If you've noticed, its the websites run by non-Muslims, which praise the killing of innocent people, and they attribute it to Islam. Unfortunately, those are the sites, which get the top hits on google. The reason is that, more people are interested fantastic lies, than in plain truth.Killing the innocent is haraam, which is one point that people sometimes fail to realise. So, when they think they've finally woken up; they've actually "lost the plot", and have failed to recognise Islam.
Asalaamu Alaikum,format_quote Originally Posted by Mike3449
And do you think by allowing people like Terry to hate Preach against Islam is going to help that problem lol? I think you need to realise that extremists rise best out of situations like these.
Worst of all, I am sure if the hate was against any other religion like it is against Islam, it too would form extremists. If their country was being invaded, it too would form extremists. But people don't like to think or ever mention that.
Islam is perfect, people aren't.
Last edited by Perseveranze; 12-15-2010 at 04:44 PM.
I hate this guy. But what’s even worse is how the people who listen to him agree completely without consideration – no matter what he says, no matter how stupid.
He was like, “Yea, but Islam is not a religion” and everyone cheered. That’s like if you were to kill an entire family, and when asked why you did that, you’d answer, “Yea, but they weren’t human beings”, and everything would be alright.
It really angers me that NOBODY sees the wrong in his words. Like, he has absolutely no evidence backing up his statements. He just blurts out random things, and the other racists cheer for him, agreeing with the crap coming out of his mouth.
Regarding the Muslims blowing themselves up…that’s also stupid. We REAL Muslims can’t even step on ants and kill them. We REAL muslims know that God said, If you kill one man, it’s as if you’ve just killed all of mankind, and if you rescue one man, it’s as if you’ve just rescued all of mankind. That’s what we follow. The psycho’s that blow themselves up are pretty much brainwashed by evil devils in whatever country they skulk in. They’re taken advantage of by evil people, who use their poverty and desperation against them and tell them that they’ll be “rewarded” for it. That’s a lie. When we commit suicide, we go through the pain over and over and over again for the rest of eternity. Killing the “kuffar” isn’t any different. They’re killing innocent people for absolutely no reason. They’re even killing other Muslims. This isn’t the way of Islam this is just blind religion that goes under the name of Islam because they don’t really understand what islam is!
That's the very problem within some of the western society; whenever innocent people are killed in Iraq, or other coutries- its not even considered worth mentioning, but when one brave soldier dies, while slaughtering many innocents; it makes the headlines.format_quote Originally Posted by Gothique
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