TORTUOUS SUICIDE: German Man Starved Himself to Death in Forest

**FatimaAsSideqah** · 02-13-2008

As Salaam Alaykum Wa Rahmatullahi Wa Barakatuhu

February 12, 2008

He was unemployed, his marriage had collapsed and he had lost touch with his daughter. A 58-year-old German man committed suicide by cycling deep into a forest and starving himself to death in a 24-day ordeal during which he kept a diary of his suffering.

An unemployed German man whose marriage had failed cycled into a forest where he starved himself to death over a period of 24 days, keeping a diary of his physical decline, German police said.

The 58-year-old man, whose name has not been released, was found by two hunters on Monday. He was lying on a mattress in an elevated hide in woodland in the Solling hill region of northern Germany, some 100 kilometers from the city of Hanover where he had lived. He had probably been dead since December.

He wrote in his diary about the collapse of his marriage, about how his grown-up daughter become estranged from him and his long period of unemployment, according to a local newspaper article, the contents of which were confirmed by police in the town of Northeim. He stopped being eligible for jobless benefit payments last October.

The man wrote about the pain he was in as he starved. He occasionally drank some water during his self-imposed ordeal. The last diary entry is on Dec. 13 last year. The diary also contains a note saying: "This notebook is to be given to my daughter (?) after my death," according to the report in the Hessisch/Niedersächsische Allgemeine newspaper.

http://www.spiegel.de/international/...534781,00.html

Allah Hafiz
Sister Fatima

**krypton6** · 02-13-2008

What a stupid way of killing yourself.

**crayon** · 02-13-2008

How horrible...

At least with other forms of suicide it's virtually instantaneous.. imagine suffering for that long. And by your own free will, as well. Scary.

**IbnAbdulHakim** · 02-13-2008

^ yeah its funny isnt it, but the thing is these people completely forget Allaah at these times.

its sad, but i know for a fact, everytime someone hits rock bottom like that, they either turn to Allah or curse Allaah, audhubillaah may Allah protect us

**gladTidings** · 02-13-2008

That is really sad... I cant imagine what his daughter must be going through now. Its as if he is punishing her. May Allah protect us from falling to such a state... Ameen.

**Muezzin** · 02-13-2008

No disrespect intended, but it seems really difficult to starve to death in a forest. There's fruit and veg and meat everywhere you turn.

I hope his family can cope with the loss.

**smile** · 02-13-2008

there are so many more interresting ways of commiting suicide! silly man

**truemuslim** · 02-13-2008

lol thats the best way he found?! lol thats hilarius...

reminds me of the story on the first page of the 'short story thread' where the kid hated his mom cuz she was embarrassin and had one eye bla bla bla till she died and left a letter for him and tellin him why she gots one eye and then he felt bad blab lbla bla

yeah thats all... poor dude tho..may allah forgive him and have mercy...

**xboxisdead** · 02-13-2008

Men like that make me sick! I hate weak men like that! This is because he is not Muslim. If he was a Muslim no matter how hard his situation is, he should always seek refuge to Allah (SWT). Always pray, pray, pray, pray and pray and seek refuse to Allah (SWT). So what if your wife divorced you or your daughter left you, they are not worth it. Any daughter who leaves her father in this state is not worthy to be a daughter. In my opinion I would have disowned her myself and screw the wife. If she left him for reasons beside him abusing her, or body harm, just because he had a misfortune in work or whatever then I would initiate it before she even done it herself. Wife and children are not everything in this life, strive for the after life.

**xboxisdead** · 02-13-2008

Excuse me I made a mistake where it says "seek refuse to Allah (SWT)" I mean to say "seek refuge to Allah (SWT) since this forum PREVENTS me from editing it I have to enter it here. I hate forums that prevent editing..I hate it.

**xboxisdead** · 02-13-2008

I hate this forum like no tomorrow...it is not "Seek refuge to Allah" I meant to say "Seek refuge in Allah (SWT)" there we go. So seek refuge in Allah (SWT).

**aadil77** · 02-13-2008

Originally Posted by foodyt

I hate this forum like there's no tomorrow...it is not "Seek refuge to Allah" I meant to say "Seek refuge in Allah (SWT)" there we go. So seek refuge in Allah (SWT).

lol! bro

you sound like your suppressed!

**crayon** · 02-13-2008

Originally Posted by Muezzin

No disrespect intended, but it seems really difficult to starve to death in a forest. There's fruit and veg and meat everywhere you turn.

I hope his family can cope with the loss.

Am I missing the sarcasm here, or were you being serious?

In case you were being serious, forests aren't like the kind you see in movies, with pretty berries and wild animals that are easy to catch. They're just trees. Lots and lots of trees. Plus, he starved on purpose, so I'm guessing even if there was food, he wouldn't have eaten it.

**truemuslim** · 02-13-2008

Originally Posted by foodyt

I hate this forum like no tomorrow...it is not "Seek refuge to Allah" I meant to say "Seek refuge in Allah (SWT)" there we go. So seek refuge in Allah (SWT).

lol bro ur killing me...

u can edit after 50 posts

**IbnAbdulHakim** · 02-14-2008

Originally Posted by foodyt

I hate this forum like no tomorrow...it is not "Seek refuge to Allah" I meant to say "Seek refuge in Allah (SWT)" there we go. So seek refuge in Allah (SWT).

lolll calm down akhee

btw beautiful post above there, yeah men should be STRONG !! but if they do have weak moments, someone should help them out

**Fishman** · 02-14-2008

Originally Posted by foodyt

Men like that make me sick! I hate weak men like that! This is because he is not Muslim. If he was a Muslim no matter how hard his situation is, he should always seek refuge to Allah (SWT). Always pray, pray, pray, pray and pray and seek refuse to Allah (SWT). So what if your wife divorced you or your daughter left you, they are not worth it. Any daughter who leaves her father in this state is not worthy to be a daughter. In my opinion I would have disowned her myself and screw the wife. If she left him for reasons beside him abusing her, or body harm, just because he had a misfortune in work or whatever then I would initiate it before she even done it herself. Wife and children are not everything in this life, strive for the after life.

But then you are not the one with depression are you? The man did not choose to be like that, his problems destroyed him.

**IbnAbdulHakim** · 02-14-2008

Originally Posted by Fishman

But then you are not the one with depression are you? The man did not choose to be like that, his problems destroyed him.

the man commited suicide by his own free-will.

if thats not choosing to destroy yourself then i dont know what is

wa alaikum ussalaam

**Fishman** · 02-14-2008

Originally Posted by IbnAbdulHakim

the man commited suicide by his own free-will.

if thats not choosing to destroy yourself then i dont know what is

wa alaikum ussalaam

Depression messes with free will. Commiting suicide may be wrong, and it is certainly stupid and counterproductive, but a person who is depressed that badly is not sane. If you have depression (a disease, not just an emotion), the only way to stop it is with drugs, physcological help or some sort of miracle. It doesn't just go away by 'being strong'. In fact being told to 'be strong' may even make it worse, as it makes you think you are weak and hopeless.

**IbnAbdulHakim** · 02-14-2008

Originally Posted by Fishman

Depression messes with free will. Commiting suicide may be wrong, and it is certainly stupid and counterproductive, but a person who is depressed that badly is not sane. If you have depression (a disease, not just an emotion), the only way to stop it is with drugs, physcological help or some sort of miracle. It doesn't just go away by 'being strong'. In fact being told to 'be strong' may even make it worse, as it makes you think you are weak and hopeless.

then i ask you if depression is a valid excuse for suicide?!

im sure you will find the answer to be "no".

wallahi if i found you correct i would have admitted it ages ago, but nothing can justify suicide... can it?!

Assalamu Alaikum