This is for Muslims, so if they see the article - they know the evidences to give a clear view that Islam is against terrorism. So they can pass it onto others, or they can atleast be informed of the truth.
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Alot of People don't know where the Muslims stand today, with all these attacks going on - we're all confused. Is this terrorism a part of Islam? What should the Muslims really be doing?
We know there's quite alot of verses in the Qur'an which call against killing and harming innocent people;
Whosoever kills a human being for other than manslaughter or corruption in the earth, it shall be as if he had killed all mankind, and whoso saves the life of one, it shall be as if he had saved the life of all mankind.
[Qur'an 5:32]
So it's mentioned that killing one person unjustly is like killing all of mankind, and saving the life of one person is like saving all of mankind.
Now some people are still confused, are we supposed to be kind to non muslims? The answer for this is also in the Qur'an:
Allah/God forbids you not, with regard to those who fight you not for (your) Faith nor drive you out of your homes, from dealing kindly and justly with them: for Allah loves those who are just.
[Qur'an 60:8]
So Allah/God is telling us that He does not stop us from dealing kindly and justly with the people who don't fight us for our faith. He encourages us to be kind and just towards them, and He loves that.
But then there's some people who twist the words of the Qur'an and argue that Muslims are allowed to kill the people who attack Muslim lands. Does this mean that the non fighters should be fought aswell?
Let's look at what the Messenger of Allah, Muhammad (peace be upon him) said;
The Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) forbade the killing of non-combatants. Ibn `Umar, a Companion of Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him), said: “I saw the body of a slain woman during one of the battles of the Prophet (peace be upon him), so he forbade the killing of women and children.” [Sahîh al-Bukhârî and Sahîh Muslim]
This narration shows how it's forbidden to kill people who are not fighting the Muslims, and this includes the innocent people who are living their daily lives within the lands we're living in. Such as the UK, Europe, USA etc.
And even when defense is allowed in Islam, innocent people are not to be killed either;
Allah’s Messenger (peace be upon him) used to say the following words to his troops before sending them to war: “Go forward in the name of Allah. Do not kill an elderly person, nor a child, nor a woman, and do not exceed the bounds.” [ al-Muwatta’]
More info:
IslamReligion.com
maybe if we as Muslims can speak out to others - condemning the kind of stuff which is wrong, our lives as Muslims might become abit more easier insha Allah (God willing.) So spread this far and wide! You might just stop a terrorist attack.. or something?
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Learn silence as you have learned speech.
Speech will guide you, and silence will protect you.
This ones abit edited and aimed at non muslim audiences (a slight change of some wording insha Allah: )
For Non-Muslim Related Forums:
Alot of People don't know where the Muslims stand today, with all these attacks going on - everyone's all confused. Is this terrorism a part of Islam? If so, why is Islam the most followed religion in the world today?
We know there's quite alot of verses in the Qur'an which call against killing and harming innocent people, and about the importance of life;
Whosoever kills a human being for other than manslaughter or corruption in the earth, it shall be as if he had killed all mankind, and whoso saves the life of one, it shall be as if he had saved the life of all mankind.
[Qur'an 5:32]
So it's mentioned by God, that killing one person unjustly is like killing all of mankind, and saving the life of one person is like saving all of mankind.
Now some people are still confused, are Muslims' really supposed to be kind to non muslims? The answer for this is also in the Qur'an:
Allah/God forbids you not, with regard to those who fight you not for (your) Faith nor drive you out of your homes, from dealing kindly and justly with them: for Allah loves those who are just.
[Qur'an 60:8]
So Allah/God is telling Muslims' that He does not stop us from dealing kindly and justly with the people who don't fight us for our faith. He encourages us to be kind and just towards them, and He loves that, since that is justice.
But then there's some people who twist the words of the Qur'an and argue that Muslims are allowed to kill the people who attack Muslim lands. Does this mean that the non fighters who are living their normal daily lives away from the battlefield, should they be fought aswell?
Let's look at what the final Messenger of Allah/God, Muhammad (peace be upon him) said;
The Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) forbade the killing of non-combatants. Ibn `Umar, a Companion of Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him), said: “I saw the body of a slain woman during one of the battles of the Prophet (peace be upon him), so he forbade the killing of women and children.” [Sahîh al-Bukhârî and Sahîh Muslim]
This narration shows how it's forbidden to kill people who are not fighting the Muslims, and this includes the innocent people who are living their daily lives within the lands we're living in. Such as the UK, Europe, USA etc.
And even when defense is allowed in Islam, innocent people are not to be killed either;
Allah’s Messenger (peace be upon him) used to say the following words to his troops before sending them to war (i.e. in defense): “Go forward in the name of Allah. Do not kill an elderly person, nor a child, nor a woman, and do not exceed the bounds.” [ al-Muwatta’]
More info:
IslamReligion.com
Click on the above link to find out more about what Islam is all about!
Peace!
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Learn silence as you have learned speech.
Speech will guide you, and silence will protect you.
Although I applaud any work done to bring about peace and understanding between the religions and indeed humanity, I notice that your quotes from the Surah miss out a crucial lines. On that account: We ordained for the Children of Israel that if any one slew a person - unless it be for murder or for spreading mischief in the land - it would be as if he slew the whole people: and if any one saved a life, it would be as if he saved the life of the whole people. Then although there came to them Our messengers with clear signs, yet, even after that, many of them continued to commit excesses in the land.
So although i know this surah is quoted in good faith, its directed at the children of Israel, and has two exeptions. Murder and sowing mischeif.
The Muslims who plant bombs are the ones who quote the full text, not a sanitised version.
If there ever was a sentance in a scripture that needed clarification, its sowing mischeif. Is that scrumping apples from a neighbours tree? Is it speaking badly of the ummah? Is it oppressing the ummah by slavery? Or is it military attacks on the Ummah?
It's basically whatever Muslims want it to be.
Occupation: The term of control of a territory by foreign military forces: Iraq 2003-2005 Liberation:when something or someone is freed: Operation Telic 2003
Muslims if they want to break from the shadow of terrorism need to tell mankind theirs is a religion of peace.
To do this they must shout out against terror, and their shouts must literally be louder than Bombs.
Occupation: The term of control of a territory by foreign military forces: Iraq 2003-2005 Liberation:when something or someone is freed: Operation Telic 2003
Asalam Alaykum Warakmatulahi Wabarkatuh.
I don't think it is only for muslims to see. I think it is for the people who accuse innocent muslims in Asian countries also.
This is only my opinion.
Khudafiz
We have to realize that there ARE no Muslim terrorists. There NEVER was a SINGLE Muslim terrorist in the world. Merely people who use the word to accomplish their selfish desires.
These terrorists are PAYED to do what they do in order for bigger people to accomplish THEIR own goals. It's all planned out, and politicized.
As my brother had clearly quoted from the quran:
Whosoever kills a human being for other than manslaughter or corruption in the earth, it shall be as if he had killed all mankind, and whoso saves the life of one, it shall be as if he had saved the life of all mankind.
[Qur'an 5:32]
Any muslim following the quran would never kill an innocent being.
Jazakullah-hu-khairan for sharing sister.
Peace be with you.
Omari
Last edited by Omari; 04-06-2008 at 03:14 AM.
Reason: :$ just realized it was a sister who posted it.
Is that the "Islam is perfect-some Muslims are not" arguement?
or
"Islam is perfect and when muslims do something wrong, at the point they do it they cease to be muslim"
And @ Snake: Thats not the only site of course, theres thousands of them out here, just as there are millions upon millions of muslims who beleive this. We have lots of them crop up on these forums.
Last edited by barney; 04-06-2008 at 03:25 AM.
Occupation: The term of control of a territory by foreign military forces: Iraq 2003-2005 Liberation:when something or someone is freed: Operation Telic 2003
Is that the "Islam is perfect-some Muslims are not" arguement?
or
"Islam is perfect and when muslims do something wrong, at the point they do it they cease to be muslim"
And @ Snake: Thats not the only site of course, theres thousands of them out here, just as there are millions upon millions of muslims who beleive this. We have lots of them crop up on these forums.
i believe they are a small minority. but they do indeed exist.
each man thinks of his own fleas as gazelles
question authority
Yeah, it is a small amount on forums certainly who follow that face of "islamic" teaching.
I know the forums are, pro-rata, populated mainly by muslims living in the west.
Perhaps this may have some influence on the numbers?
Last edited by barney; 04-06-2008 at 03:59 AM.
Occupation: The term of control of a territory by foreign military forces: Iraq 2003-2005 Liberation:when something or someone is freed: Operation Telic 2003
maybe. it's really just speculation. islam, like any other religion(with the possible exception of catholism), is not one thing.
still, common sense suggests to me, that the vast majority of human beings are against killing innocent people - and this would of course, include muslims.
each man thinks of his own fleas as gazelles
question authority
Who was it who said "for evil to triumph all it takes is good men to do nothing"?
Was that Kennedy or Lincon or Col Saunders?
Anyway, thats what is needed. Good men and women to do something.
Occupation: The term of control of a territory by foreign military forces: Iraq 2003-2005 Liberation:when something or someone is freed: Operation Telic 2003
maybe. it's really just speculation. islam, like any other religion(with the possible exception of catholism), is not one thing.
still, common sense suggests to me, that the vast majority of human beings are against killing innocent people - and this would of course, include muslims.
What do you mean Islam is not one thing?. That is preciscly what it is - ONE THING. There is only one thing called the religion of Islam. It contains many sub-elements if you like; like the quran, its followers (Muslims) and holy places but it only equates to ONE thing.
Who was it who said "for evil to triumph all it takes is good men to do nothing"?
Was that Kennedy or Lincon or Col Saunders?
Anyway, thats what is needed. Good men and women to do something.
I have to add one thing - this whole so-called "war on terror" is something which has been extremely badly skewed.
Most sane and reasonable people, deep down, know this. For a start, more people die each year from swimming pool accidents than they do from 'terror incidents' (I put this phrase in commas as I am very skeptical about how many EXACTLY are done by Muslims alone e.g. with the training, arming, nurturing and I even heard naming of Al-Qaeda by the CIA) - thats an official UN report quote.
So number one: its been blown out of proportion to serve other needs - e.g. invasions. The second point is: the Muslims have been condoning this for a long time. Whether people chose to listen or not is another issue but the facts remain.
Its the sad state of the times we are living in now. The truth is the truth even if you are the only one calling to it and falsehood is falsehood even if everyones doing it.
war on islam is disguised under war on terror,there are muslim terrorists but the media do perfectly well in exaggerating and making the public hate islam but what the viewers dont know is that the western governments have caused more terror to muslims in the arab world,i cannot accept the west to urge me to tackle terrorism when my muslim brothers are being terrorised abroad,When the illegal state israel is demolished when america pulls out of iraq and afghanistan then only terrorism will stop
As my brother had clearly quoted from the quran:[/COLOR]
Whosoever kills a human being for other than manslaughter or corruption in the earth, it shall be as if he had killed all mankind, and whoso saves the life of one, it shall be as if he had saved the life of all mankind.
[Qur'an 5:32]
the blue part is rather vague and can be interpreted in many ways...
the blue part is rather vague and can be interpreted in many ways...
It can be interrprested in an infintie number of (false) ways however the truth of Islam still remains as ONE truth.
Ultimately, just like we Muslims believe there is only one, true God (Allah), there is only one, true religion (Islam) of Allah and only one, true interrpretation of it otherwise there would be many 'Islams'.
war on islam is disguised under war on terror,there are muslim terrorists but the media do perfectly well in exaggerating and making the public hate islam but what the viewers dont know is that the western governments have caused more terror to muslims in the arab world,i cannot accept the west to urge me to tackle terrorism when my muslim brothers are being terrorised abroad,When the illegal state israel is demolished when america pulls out of iraq and afghanistan then only terrorism will stop
Two wrongs my brother don't make a right. Don't stoop to the level of your enemy and bring shame on your head like they have.
We should be proud of our religion; its the biggest of blessings Allah has given us more than even health or life. If the West urge you to tackle Terror then so does Islam so you have no harm in agreeing; you lose nothing to them and gain good only. There is no stigma attached, in fact when they see us Muslims fighting evils perhaps they will take note and wake up.
It can be interrprested in an infintie number of (false) ways however the truth of Islam still remains as ONE truth.
Ultimately, just like we Muslims believe there is only one, true God (Allah), there is only one, true religion (Islam) of Allah and only one, true interrpretation of it otherwise there would be many 'Islams'.
How do you know your interpretation is teh correct one? Do you have other verses and hadiths to back it up? do you think terrorism supporters don't?
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