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    I saw something extremely strange while i was driving, i saw a young girl wearing hijab taking her poodle for a walk.
    is there some sort of exception in Islam that says we can have a dog, not that i want one because i find them unhygenic and i know that if you own large property or a farm that you can have working or guard dogs but im pretty sure that poodles dont count.
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    Re: Dogs?

    ...dont all answer at once... lol jokes
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    Re: Dogs?

    that's must be haram thing to do... so dont have it...

    maybe she's new muslim, or ... many reasons for just one accident...
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    Maybe she helped to take care of someone else's dog. Muslim cannot keep dog as a pet.
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    Re: Dogs?

    wow....

    I think its only haram if u keep it as a pet...like ashley66 said.



    oh btw this is when the game "make an excuse" becomes useful.. lol
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    Re: Dogs?

    According to Islaamic Sharee’ah, it is not permitted to keep a dog except within narrowly-defined limits, as the Prophet saws 1 - Dogs? (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) explained: "Whoever keeps a dog, his good deeds will decrease every day by one qeeraat (a unit of measurement), unless it is a dog for farming or herding." According to another report: ". . . unless it is a dog for herding sheep, farming or hunting." (Reported by al-Bukhaari, al-Fath, 2322)

    Dogs are extremely naajis (impure, unclean). The Prophet saws 1 - Dogs? (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: "If a dog drinks from the vessel of any one of you, let him wash it seven times" (reported by Muslim, no. 279). According to another report: ". . . and clean it the eighth time with earth." (Saheeh Muslim, no. 280).

    It is forbidden in Islaam to sell a dog and to receive payment for it, as is reported in Saheeh al-Bukhaari from Abu Mas’oud al-Ansaari: the Messenger of Allaah saws 1 - Dogs? (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) forbade (accepting) the price of a dog. (al-Fath, no. 2237)

    Whoever keeps a dog in his house is denied the blessing of the angels’ presence in his house, as the Messenger of Allaah saws 1 - Dogs? (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: "The angels do not enter a house in which there is a dog." (Reported by al-Bukhaari, 3225).

    Keeping dogs nowadays is the habit of the kuffaar, who adopt them as friends, kiss them, let them lick them and their clothes, sleep with them and even leave them money in their wills. Keeping a dog is an imitation of the kuffaar. Some Muslims may claim that they need to keep a dog at home for purposes of protection, to which we respond that nowadays there are burglar alarm systems and other measures one may take for security purposes, and there is no need to keep a dog, praise be to Allaah.

    It only remains for us to say that the fact that it is forbidden to keep a dog and interect closely with it does not mean that we should not be kind or feel compassion towards dogs if we see them in a pitiful state. These are two entirely separate matters. The Prophet saws 1 - Dogs? (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) told us that "a man saw a dog biting the dust because of thirst, so he took his shoe and started to scoop water up with it until the dog’s thirst was quenched. Allaah appreciated his good deed and granted him entry to Paradise for it." (Reported by al-Bukhaari, no. 174

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    ^ That pretty much answers everything! Jazakallah khair brother!
    (yet again...the good websites u got)

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    Thankyou brothers and sisters
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    Re: Dogs?

    but there's a lot of stories that those so called dog save a human's life. We should not ignore the fact that they are just waiting for the HELP from the humans.
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    Re: Dogs?

    format_quote Originally Posted by Seri View Post


    I saw something extremely strange while i was driving, i saw a young girl wearing hijab taking her poodle for a walk.
    is there some sort of exception in Islam that says we can have a dog, not that i want one because i find them unhygenic and i know that if you own large property or a farm that you can have working or guard dogs but im pretty sure that poodles dont count.
    please explain???


    It might be a guard dog,

    A guide dog, if the sister is blind (God forbid)

    A seizure dog (God forbid)

    Or maybe she isn't aware that keeping a dog as a pet is haraam, it like not knowing all the laws, not everyone knows all the laws etc, everyone is a learner,

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    format_quote Originally Posted by hayati View Post
    but there's a lot of stories that those so called dog save a human's life. We should not ignore the fact that they are just waiting for the HELP from the humans.
    No one doubts that the dogs are very social creatures and have helped man many a times. The christians have taken this relationship to the extreme like they did with their prophet. Islam is a religion of moderation and likes everything in moderate portions. Dogs are allowed to keep for herding and guards and hunting or other permissible reason allowed in islamic law but not as pets. That doesn't mean we treat it like trash, Islam emphasizes kindness to all creatures, even animals including dogs. Showing kindness and helping them is different then taking them home, having them drink from the toilet and then come lick your face and sleep in your bed.
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    That doesn't mean we treat it like trash, Islam emphasizes kindness to all creatures, even animals including dogs. Showing kindness and helping them is different then taking them home, having them drink from the toilet and then come lick your face and sleep in your bed.

    Im not talking about this, im pertaining about dogs have helped a lot of humans.

    The christians have taken this relationship to the extreme like they did with their prophet.

    And What do u mean by this? That we treat our Prophet like a DOG? No need to say this things because i didnt join in this forum to feel aggraviated. Im respecting your religion a lot and I will not change the way I respect Muslim people just because of your words. Thank you so much and May Allah bless you..
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    I'm pretty sure that's not what he meant. Christians deified Jesus, calling him God, giving him a higher position than he was really due. It is the same with dogs. They have been elevated above their position and been called "man's best friend", etc. Yes, they have their purpose and benefits, but it is higher than deserved. I think that's what brother islamirama meant.
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    That doesn't mean we treat it like trash, Islam emphasizes kindness to all creatures, even animals including dogs. Showing kindness and helping them is different then taking them home, having them drink from the toilet and then come lick your face and sleep in your bed.

    Im not talking about this, im pertaining about dogs have helped a lot of humans.

    The christians have taken this relationship to the extreme like they did with their prophet.

    And What do u mean by this? That we treat our Prophet like a DOG? No need to say this things because i didnt join in this forum to feel aggraviated. Im respecting your religion a lot and I will not change the way I respect Muslim people just because of your words. Thank you so much and May Allah bless you..
    I never really pay attention to dog except taking care when I’m near one to to be in contact with it, until i kept one albeit only temporary care. But I realise also that they are amazing animal with many amazing, interesting and lovable characteristic behaviour and ability. Fact remains that Allah set a specific rules regarding dogs and Allah know best.
    Allah elevate the status of dog despite the first thing that their saliva or contact with any part of their body with moisture being najis. A dog when trained as a hunting dog, when the hunter/owner let the dog go to catch an animal and say basmallah while doing so, if the game died before the hunter can slaughter it, ie. Killed by the trained dog, it is halal. Of course, the method is discussed in many book in more detailed. What I’m getting at is, see how Allah is great. In Islam, dog is not a second class animal. Although other religion don’t consider different status for dog from other animal. In my opinion, Islam regards dog a respectable level. Its just that dog is not for pet. We can keep hunting dog, guard dog, farm dog but they are to be treated fairly. Just like we wanna be happy , all our pet and working animal should also be. All animals from cats to insect to fish, Allah taught them to pray to Allah in their own way. Whenever I pass by a dog or cats and when I’m diving looking at fish in the sea, I couldn’t help chuckling to myself, what zikir are they reciting at tha time and that Allah answer their prayer also.
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    Re: Dogs?

    format_quote Originally Posted by crayon View Post
    I'm pretty sure that's not what he meant. Christians deified Jesus, calling him God, giving him a higher position than he was really due. It is the same with dogs. They have been elevated above their position and been called "man's best friend", etc. Yes, they have their purpose and benefits, but it is higher than deserved. I think that's what brother islamirama meant.


    btw, they also lick their own private parts and other dog's private parts and then come lick your face all over....why not just wipe your face with the toilet paper after ur done using it lol
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    Re: Dogs?

    maybe she was a farmer and herding her lambs along the road, which you might have missed when you blinked
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    Re: Dogs?

    Hi
    I can understand the washing of a bowl seven times, that seems like such a good idea. Then washing it finally with soil kinda messes that up dosnt it??
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    Re: Dogs?

    format_quote Originally Posted by barney View Post
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    I can understand the washing of a bowl seven times, that seems like such a good idea. Then washing it finally with soil kinda messes that up dosnt it??
    maybe soil works better than soap
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    Re: Dogs?

    Ooookay!
    But i dont smear my washed plates with soap as a final layer!

    Anyone got any explaination why the prophet would want to use soil as a final cleaning agent? Its OK getting the dog saliva off with water, why rub soil, perhaps contaminated with the dogs wee or at the very least, been walked on by peoiples feet, to wash up with?
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    format_quote Originally Posted by barney View Post
    Ooookay!
    But i dont smear my washed plates with soap as a final layer!

    Anyone got any explaination why the prophet would want to use soil as a final cleaning agent? Its OK getting the dog saliva off with water, why rub soil, perhaps contaminated with the dogs wee or at the very least, been walked on by peoiples feet, to wash up with?
    I hope you're not thinking that after washing it with soil, it's just left like that to use? Common sense would tell any person to rinse the soil off afterwards (like soap).

    There are many things that Islam says that we did not know the point of but did it out of faith. And then later on as technology and science improved, the benefits behind those were discovered and revealed. We do it out of faith and belief, and science comes along and only affirms that and nothing more. We don't know exactly what is in the dog's saliva nor the impact dirt has on it, science hasn't advanced to that level to tell us yet. So you'll have to just wait till science catches up with Islam to affirm what Islam has been saying all these centuries on this matter or any other matter not revealed as yet.

    Those are just my thoughts, i'm sure we can find a scholar's explanation/elaboration on that hadith as well inshallah...
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