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    Smile Musicc!!!

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    Wassup evryone
    me again...my problems...my questions...and ur answers

    anyway...
    Am so happy right now coz i fink i like abu ali nasheeds better than outlandish...
    and i still wit outlandish music righ now. and native deen. and i lissen occasionaly juss a liiil teeny bit of tupac and all dem on da radio in da car...coz its borin. but its ok my dad yells at me for turning it up too loud (even tho he deaf...i gess it really was loud! lol) and then he turns it off....and i get happy. lol.
    i fink i juss said too much bout wut i lissen to:X

    BUT

    i wanna know
    how u people quit it
    how did u people quit ur music
    ur addiction
    wit music?
    HOW?
    And how long did it take u
    and how u found out musik is haram.?
    Jazakallah khair

    btw Abu Ali OWNNNSSS all other singerz by lyk biggg tiiime! Mashallah !!


    WaSalaam
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    Re: Musicc!!!

    Sister i was a heavy hip-hop listener,i used to listen to nas,mobb deep,wu tang,i never thought it was haram until i heard that it is i still continued because we all make mistakes you know but it came to a day when i contemplated about why i should quit it and what benefit does it offer me it didnt offer anything, it is a complete waste of time listening to another human being trying to sell their silly story to you about how rich they are and what they went through,so basically i said to myself why should i listen to a kaafir talking about evil things when the mp3 quran is out there with poetry from allah so thats how i quit.

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    Re: Musicc!!!

    format_quote Originally Posted by Ahmedjunior View Post
    Sister i was a heavy hip-hop listener,i used to listen to nas,mobb deep,wu tang,i never thought it was haram until i heard that it is i still continued because we all make mistakes you know but it came to a day when i contemplated about why i should quit it and what benefit does it offer me it didnt offer anything, it is a complete waste of time listening to another human being trying to sell their silly story to you about how rich they are and what they went through,so basically i said to myself why should i listen to a kaafir talking about evil things when the mp3 quran is out there with poetry from allah so thats how i quit.

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    woow mashallah
    ur so good
    but wut about the songs that do have a point? like some of outlandish and native deen songs? u benifit from dem. did u evr lissen to dem?

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    Re: Musicc!!!

    format_quote Originally Posted by truemuslim View Post
    :eek:
    woow mashallah
    ur so good
    but wut about the songs that do have a point? like some of outlandish and native deen songs? u benifit from dem. did u evr lissen to dem?
    yeah sister there is the option of listening to good music,outllandish are not bad and even some of tupacs songs dont have much haram in them for example dear mama which has a good meaning but then theres stuff like the instrumentals and some ppl argue thats haram but i dont know allah knows best

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    Re: Musicc!!!

    quitting took me time sis.

    i remember first time trying to quit, its because i was doing a LOT of other bad stuff which made it harder, but as soon as i gave it all up, music was like nothing.

    my friends told me n showed me its haram when i was 16 and i quit when i was 18. I remember before quitting i use to be addicted to islaam... maybe thats what helped? just loving to read on islaam and the Quran n nasheeds etc...


    tahts what helps i guess..
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    Weird thing is i've never liked listening to music, it just annoys me for some reason.

    I'd just like to add this though, Ibn al Qayyim Rahimahullah said: “It is difficult to abandon a habit or something that you like, if you do not do it for Allah’s sake. Likewise, if he leaves that habit or something he likes for Allah’s sake, it will not be difficult. It will only be difficult in the very beginning. He will be tested if he will continue or not and if he is sincere in seeking Allah’s pleasure or not. So if he proves to be steadfast in leaving the bad habit and bears this difficulty in the very beginning the whole thing will become easy for him.”

    So think of giving up music, as giving it up for the sake of Allah. May Allah make it easy for you and us all..Ameen


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    Re: Musicc!!!

    format_quote Originally Posted by Ahmedjunior View Post
    yeah sister there is the option of listening to good music,outllandish are not bad and even some of tupacs songs dont have much haram in them for example dear mama which has a good meaning but then theres stuff like the instrumentals and some ppl argue thats haram but i dont know allah knows best
    see thats the thing that makes it harder. all the other people sayin stuff about it being not haram coz the lyrics are good and insturments are harmless etc etc...jazakallah khair btw


    format_quote Originally Posted by IbnAbdulHakim View Post
    quitting took me time sis.

    i remember first time trying to quit, its because i was doing a LOT of other bad stuff which made it harder, but as soon as i gave it all up, music was like nothing.

    my friends told me n showed me its haram when i was 16 and i quit when i was 18. I remember before quitting i use to be addicted to islaam... maybe thats what helped? just loving to read on islaam and the Quran n nasheeds etc...


    tahts what helps i guess..
    Wow mashallah. What if u like lissenin to all types of music (mosly ones wit good lyrics) and u memorize quran, read on islaam ,etc etc.??

    and Jazakallah khair bro

    format_quote Originally Posted by Abdul Baari View Post


    Weird thing is i've never liked listening to music, it just annoys me for some reason.

    I'd just like to add this though, Ibn al Qayyim Rahimahullah said: “It is difficult to abandon a habit or something that you like, if you do not do it for Allah’s sake. Likewise, if he leaves that habit or something he likes for Allah’s sake, it will not be difficult. It will only be difficult in the very beginning. He will be tested if he will continue or not and if he is sincere in seeking Allah’s pleasure or not. So if he proves to be steadfast in leaving the bad habit and bears this difficulty in the very beginning the whole thing will become easy for him.”

    So think of giving up music, as giving it up for the sake of Allah. May Allah make it easy for you and us all..Ameen


    Mashallah jazakallah khair for that hadith bro. very nice

    if u don't mind.. can i ask...do u liv in a islamic country?

    Ameen btw
    and jazakallah khair

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    Yeah and also ive been hearing stuff about how music tracks have subliminal messages and how it has an influence on the brain.Whta i think is if you listen to music with useless lyrics that encourage bad stuff then there is no doubt that you might replicate those things

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    ^ yeh i kno thats why i gave up the useless songs/singers and i lissen and cant quit the good ones wit real messages. like native deen mashallah

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    Mashallah jazakallah khair for that hadith bro. very nice

    if u don't mind.. can i ask...do u liv in a islamic country?
    WaIyyaki. [Just a note - It is not actually a Hadith of the Prophet SAW, it is a saying of Imam Ibn Al Qayyim]

    Islamic country? No, I'm from the UK.


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    ^ oh woops my bad
    Jazakallah khair for the saying then. lol
    Ooh u in UK (y am i not surprised...) mashallah then
    u livin in a mix of people and never interested in music! mashallah jazakalllah khair and jannah brother
    inshallah u (and evry1) get jannat alfirdous inshallah ammeen.

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    and i lissen occasionaly juss a liiil teeny bit of tupac and all dem on da radio in da car...coz its borin.
    Bored? Read books!

    If you follow the opinion that all sorts of music is haram, then you must start telling yourself you really want to quit. Replace the need to listen to music with something else. Usually people listen to music for relaxation or just 'cause they are bored, but you can replace it with something else, like reading books. Or eating or going out for jogging, or reading the newspaper, or writing poems..
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    format_quote Originally Posted by Al-Zaara View Post
    Bored? Read books!

    If you follow the opinion that all sorts of music is haram, then you must start telling yourself you really want to quit. Replace the need to listen to music with something else. Usually people listen to music for relaxation or just 'cause they are bored, but you can replace it with something else, like reading books. Or eating or going out for jogging, or reading the newspaper, or writing poems..

    lol i was hoping someone would pass by reading books without mentioning it.lol
    anyway
    i hate reading
    and i do enough of it during school
    i lissen to good halal nasheeds when i feel like it
    i already write poetry...freestyles...when am being bored.
    i play basketball coz its ghetto-er than joggin (lol am kiddin of course)
    i read newspapers....ok fine i watch the news. the newspapers here suck big time coz they so bored the front page is about some looser who jumped the longest...interesting
    music that has instruments is just extra. it doesnt stop me from praying, or reading and memorizing quran, or fasting, or nothing. and it lets me concentrate during school. i swear, i cant really think without music on during homework or something. my mom says i cant concentrate wit it on lol.silly mum.

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    Re: Musicc!!!

    format_quote Originally Posted by truemuslim View Post
    lol i was hoping someone would pass by reading books without mentioning it.lol
    anyway
    i hate reading
    and i do enough of it during school
    i lissen to good halal nasheeds when i feel like it
    i already write poetry...freestyles...when am being bored.
    i play basketball coz its ghetto-er than joggin (lol am kiddin of course)
    i read newspapers....ok fine i watch the news. the newspapers here suck big time coz they so bored the front page is about some looser who jumped the longest...interesting
    music that has instruments is just extra. it doesnt stop me from praying, or reading and memorizing quran, or fasting, or nothing. and it lets me concentrate during school. i swear, i cant really think without music on during homework or something. my mom says i cant concentrate wit it on lol.silly mum.
    Hmm, well you sound quite young. Not young as in 9, but high school-ish.

    About the reading books is boring bit - it depends what you read. Seriously, give it a go; you might find a specific genre you enjoy reading.

    Also, you may laugh at this, but why not revise for upcoming tests or something? It'll be worth it.
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    cmon man!! reading is boring but its good for your english i must admit so i would advice to anyone who hates english to force themselves to read even if its online for 20 minutes or so

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    I was just like you Sis , I listened to rap , hiphop music all the time and was like a normal "modern'' muslim, just a couple of months ago I didnt like them anymore, I Stopped with that kind of music and listened to nasheeds Or something like that pure (never knew that music was haram then)I didnt know why I Stopped listening to music , but now I understand It, It was Allah's Guidance ,Alhamdullah and at that time my imaan/Faith grew spontaneously ( Learned a new Word) Fast, I didnt know why , It was Like my true self was born and I knew there was something strange with me,Before the time my Imaan/Faith grew ALL the people I knew Where going to parties( they invited me many times) and doing sinfull things but there was some Thing/feeling in me wich forbade me to do such things and thats why I never did what they did and I didnt know why, I didnt notice but when my Faith grew and I practised Islam and then everything went automaticaly I understanded everything , I started Praying ( I am the only brother who is Praying 5 times a day in my hood and there is a lots of muslims brothers here), Watching Lectures for hours , Reading/Learning The Qu'ran and I learned what haram or halal was ( Also learned that music Haram was) etc. And even learned More then my Dear Mother (Who always prayed five times a day alhamdullah but didnt learned me much only how to fast and the movements for prayer and that kind of things ), in This couple of months I learned everything alone And now my Faith is not as high as before but it is enough to keep me at the right pad.

    It was Allah who saved me ALHAMDULLAH , If He didnt I might went astray and do all the sinfull things and you guys might have never know me
    Inshallah All of you will Have the guidance an Do the right things And Inshallah All of you will earn HIS Mercy and HIS Jannah.


    PS. SORRY FOR MY BORING LONG LIFESTORY BUT I COULDNT STOP MY SELF TO WRITE IT
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    Re: Musicc!!!

    format_quote Originally Posted by Ali. View Post
    Hmm, well you sound quite young. Not young as in 9, but high school-ish.

    About the reading books is boring bit - it depends what you read. Seriously, give it a go; you might find a specific genre you enjoy reading.

    Also, you may laugh at this, but why not revise for upcoming tests or something? It'll be worth it.
    lol i am "high school-ish" lool am 15.

    i kno i kno. i read islamic stuff. and i dont get bored. only mayb fall asleep occasionaly...but thats only when am reading after midnight. happens with quran too :X. i read some books..jus i hate the dog type of books they make us read at school. about a kid who falls in love....wita dog...oh so interesting. i kno ther is good books out ther. and i am readin som. jus not 24/7...

    lol i wont laugh. i kno wut u mean. i do study for tests. i had tons of exams last week and this week...they over now tho ...and i still study for other boring tests and projects and all dat.
    so how is music interupting anything tho?

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    ^ are you asking why music is harmful?
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    Re: Musicc!!!

    format_quote Originally Posted by truemuslim View Post
    lol i was hoping someone would pass by reading books without mentioning it.lol
    anyway
    i hate reading
    and i do enough of it during school
    LOL Trust me, what you read in school is nothing compared to what you can read outside the schoolbuilding. You should try it more often.

    i lissen to good halal nasheeds when i feel like it
    OK.

    i already write poetry...freestyles...when am being bored.
    Are you often bored?

    i play basketball coz its ghetto-er than joggin (lol am kiddin of course)
    Basketball is cool. I play too.

    i read newspapers....ok fine i watch the news. the newspapers here suck big time coz they so bored the front page is about some looser who jumped the longest...interesting
    I'm gonna tell you a secret.. There are more pages after the front-page! *gasp* lol Newspaper's great! You try to read it more often! Or read magazines of all kinds, they surely cannot be boring!

    music that has instruments is just extra. it doesnt stop me from praying, or reading and memorizing quran, or fasting, or nothing.
    And the problem is? You say you don't feel regret for not feeling that music is haram, but still you create threads like these. I think you do slightly believe they are haram.. You just can't allow yourself to admit that, 'cause you enjoy it so much and cannot understand how something so enjoyable can do harm?

    But then again, I could be wrong. If you really don't think/feel it is haram, why continue to bother? :confused: I'm sorry if you feel like you're repating yourself, but please do it for me!

    and it lets me concentrate during school. i swear, i cant really think without music on during homework or something. my mom says i cant concentrate wit it on lol.silly mum.
    That's so weird, but there are those who say the same, so I'm just gonna say OK.
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    and it lets me concentrate during school. i swear, i cant really think without music on during homework or something. my mom says i cant concentrate wit it on lol.silly mum.
    I think that's just psychological.
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