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    AP Talley: Obama clinches nomination

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    AP tally: Obama effectively clinches nomination
    Jun 3 01:40 PM US/Eastern


    WASHINGTON (AP) - Barack Obama effectively clinched the Democratic presidential nomination Tuesday, based on an Associated Press tally of convention delegates, becoming the first black candidate ever to lead his party into a fall campaign for the White House.

    Campaigning on an insistent call for change, Obama outlasted former first lady Hillary Rodham Clinton in a historic race that sparked record turnout in primary after primary, yet exposed deep racial divisions within the party.

    The AP tally was based on public commitments from delegates as well as more than a dozen private commitments. It also included a minimum number of delegates Obama was guaranteed even if he lost the final two primaries in South Dakota and Montana later in the day.

    The 46-year-old first-term senator will face Sen. John McCain of Arizona in the fall campaign to become the 44th president.

    Clinton was ready to concede that her rival had amassed the delegates needed to triumph, according to officials in her campaign. These officials said the New York senator did not intend to suspend or end her candidacy in a speech Tuesday night in New York. They spoke on condition of anonymity because they had not been authorized to divulge her plans.

    Obama's triumph was fashioned on prodigious fundraising, meticulous organizing and his theme of change aimed at an electorate opposed to the Iraq war and worried about the economy—all harnessed to his own innate gifts as a campaigner.

    Clinton campaigned for months as the candidate of experience, a former first lady and second-term senator ready, she said, to take over on Day One.

    But after a year on the trail, Obama won the kickoff Iowa caucuses on Jan. 3, and the freshman senator became something of an overnight political phenomenon.

    "We came together as Democrats, as Republicans and independents, to stand up and say we are one nation, we are one people and our time for change has come," he said that night in Des Moines.

    A video produced by Will I. Am and built around Obama's "Yes, we can" rallying cry quickly went viral. It drew its one millionth hit within a few days of being posted.

    As the strongest female presidential candidate in history, Clinton drew large, enthusiastic audiences. Yet Obama's were bigger still. One audience, in Dallas, famously cheered when he blew his nose on stage; a crowd of 75,000 turned out in Portland, Ore., the weekend before the state's May 20 primary.

    The former first lady countered Obama's Iowa victory with an upset five days later in New Hampshire that set the stage for a campaign marathon as competitive as any in the last generation.

    "Over the last week I listened to you, and in the process I found my own voice," she told supporters who had saved her candidacy from an early demise.

    In defeat, Obama's aides concluded they had committed a cardinal sin of New Hampshire politics, forsaking small, intimate events in favor of speeches to large audiences inviting them to ratify Iowa's choice.

    It was not a mistake they made again—which helped explain Obama's later outings to bowling alleys, backyard basketball hoops and American Legion halls in the heartland.

    Clinton conceded nothing, memorably knocking back a shot of Crown Royal whiskey at a bar in Indiana, recalling that her grandfather had taught her to use a shotgun, and driving in a pickup to a gas station in South Bend, Ind., to emphasize her support for a summertime suspension of the federal gasoline tax.

    As other rivals quickly fell away in winter, the strongest black candidate in history and the strongest female White House contender traded victories on Super Tuesday, the Feb. 5 series of primaries and caucuses across 21 states and American Samoa that once seemed likely to settle the nomination.

    But Clinton had a problem that Obama exploited, and he scored a coup she could not answer.

    Pressed for cash, the former first lady ran noncompetitive campaigns in several Super Tuesday caucus states, allowing her rival to run up his delegate totals.

    At the same time, Sen. Edward M. Kennedy, D-Mass., endorsed the young senator in terms that summoned memories of his slain brothers, yet sought to turn the page on the Clinton era.

    Kennedy said in a reference to former President Clinton: "There was another time, when another young candidate was running for president and challenging America to cross a new frontier. He faced criticism from the preceding Democratic president, who was widely respected in the party."

    Merely by surviving Super Tuesday, Obama exceeded expectations.

    But he did more than survive, emerging with a lead in delegates that he never relinquished, and proceeded to run off a string of 11 straight victories.

    Clinton saved her candidacy once more with primary victories in Ohio and Texas on March 4, beginning a stretch in which she won primaries in six of the final nine states on the calendar.

    It was a strong run, providing glimpses of what might have been for the one-time front-runner.

    But by then Obama was well on his way to victory, Clinton and her allies stressed the popular vote instead of delegates. Yet he seemed to emerge from each loss with residual strength.

    Obama's bigger-than-expected victory in North Carolina on May 6 offset his narrow defeat in Indiana the same day. Four days later, he overtook Clinton's lead among superdelegates, the party leaders she had hoped would award her the nomination on the basis of a strong showing in swing states.

    Obama lost West Virginia by a whopping 67 percent to 26 percent on May 13. Yet he won an endorsement the following day from former presidential rival and one-time North Carolina Sen. John Edwards.

    Clinton administered another drubbing in Kentucky a week later. This time, Obama countered with a victory in Oregon, and turned up that night in Iowa to say he had won a majority of all the delegates available in 56 primaries and caucuses on the calendar.

    There were moments of anger, notably in a finger-wagging debate in South Carolina on Jan. 21.

    Obama told the former first lady he was helping unemployed workers on the streets of Chicago when "you were a corporate lawyer sitting on the board at Wal-Mart."

    Moments later, Clinton said that she was fighting against misguided Republican policies "when you were practicing law and representing your contributor ... in his slum landlord business in inner city Chicago."

    And Bill Clinton was a constant presence and an occasional irritant for Obama. The former president angered several black politicians when he seemed to diminish Obama's South Carolina triumph by noting that Jesse Jackson had also won the state.

    Obama's frustration showed at the Jan. 21 debate, when he accused the former president in absentia of uttering a series of distortions.

    "I'm here. He's not," the former first lady snapped.

    "Well, I can't tell who I'm running against sometimes," Obama countered.

    There were relatively few policy differences. Clinton accused Obama of backing a health care plan that would leave millions out, and the two clashed repeatedly over trade.

    Yet race, religion, region and gender became political fault lines as the two campaigned from coast to coast.

    Along the way, Obama showed an ability to weather the inevitable controversies, most notably one caused by the incendiary rhetoric of his former pastor, the Rev. Jeremiah Wright.

    At first, Obama said he could not break with his longtime spiritual adviser. Then, when Wright spoke out anew, Obama reversed course and denounced him strongly.

    Clinton struggled with self-inflicted wounds. Most prominently, she claimed to have come under sniper fire as first lady more than a decade earlier while paying a visit to Bosnia.

    Instead, videotapes showed her receiving a gift of flowers from a young girl who greeted her plane.


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    Re: AP Talley: Obama clinches nomination

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    AP tally: Obama effectively clinches nomination
    Jun 3 01:40 PM US/Eastern


    WASHINGTON (AP) - Barack Obama effectively clinched the Democratic presidential nomination Tuesday, based on an Associated Press tally of convention delegates, becoming the first black candidate ever to lead his party into a fall campaign for the White House.

    Campaigning on an insistent call for change, Obama outlasted former first lady Hillary Rodham Clinton in a historic race that sparked record turnout in primary after primary, yet exposed deep racial divisions within the party.

    The AP tally was based on public commitments from delegates as well as more than a dozen private commitments. It also included a minimum number of delegates Obama was guaranteed even if he lost the final two primaries in South Dakota and Montana later in the day.

    The 46-year-old first-term senator will face Sen. John McCain of Arizona in the fall campaign to become the 44th president.

    Clinton was ready to concede that her rival had amassed the delegates needed to triumph, according to officials in her campaign. These officials said the New York senator did not intend to suspend or end her candidacy in a speech Tuesday night in New York. They spoke on condition of anonymity because they had not been authorized to divulge her plans.

    Obama's triumph was fashioned on prodigious fundraising, meticulous organizing and his theme of change aimed at an electorate opposed to the Iraq war and worried about the economy—all harnessed to his own innate gifts as a campaigner.

    Clinton campaigned for months as the candidate of experience, a former first lady and second-term senator ready, she said, to take over on Day One.

    But after a year on the trail, Obama won the kickoff Iowa caucuses on Jan. 3, and the freshman senator became something of an overnight political phenomenon.

    "We came together as Democrats, as Republicans and independents, to stand up and say we are one nation, we are one people and our time for change has come," he said that night in Des Moines.

    A video produced by Will I. Am and built around Obama's "Yes, we can" rallying cry quickly went viral. It drew its one millionth hit within a few days of being posted.

    As the strongest female presidential candidate in history, Clinton drew large, enthusiastic audiences. Yet Obama's were bigger still. One audience, in Dallas, famously cheered when he blew his nose on stage; a crowd of 75,000 turned out in Portland, Ore., the weekend before the state's May 20 primary.

    The former first lady countered Obama's Iowa victory with an upset five days later in New Hampshire that set the stage for a campaign marathon as competitive as any in the last generation.

    "Over the last week I listened to you, and in the process I found my own voice," she told supporters who had saved her candidacy from an early demise.

    In defeat, Obama's aides concluded they had committed a cardinal sin of New Hampshire politics, forsaking small, intimate events in favor of speeches to large audiences inviting them to ratify Iowa's choice.

    It was not a mistake they made again—which helped explain Obama's later outings to bowling alleys, backyard basketball hoops and American Legion halls in the heartland.

    Clinton conceded nothing, memorably knocking back a shot of Crown Royal whiskey at a bar in Indiana, recalling that her grandfather had taught her to use a shotgun, and driving in a pickup to a gas station in South Bend, Ind., to emphasize her support for a summertime suspension of the federal gasoline tax.

    As other rivals quickly fell away in winter, the strongest black candidate in history and the strongest female White House contender traded victories on Super Tuesday, the Feb. 5 series of primaries and caucuses across 21 states and American Samoa that once seemed likely to settle the nomination.

    But Clinton had a problem that Obama exploited, and he scored a coup she could not answer.

    Pressed for cash, the former first lady ran noncompetitive campaigns in several Super Tuesday caucus states, allowing her rival to run up his delegate totals.

    At the same time, Sen. Edward M. Kennedy, D-Mass., endorsed the young senator in terms that summoned memories of his slain brothers, yet sought to turn the page on the Clinton era.

    Kennedy said in a reference to former President Clinton: "There was another time, when another young candidate was running for president and challenging America to cross a new frontier. He faced criticism from the preceding Democratic president, who was widely respected in the party."

    Merely by surviving Super Tuesday, Obama exceeded expectations.

    But he did more than survive, emerging with a lead in delegates that he never relinquished, and proceeded to run off a string of 11 straight victories.

    Clinton saved her candidacy once more with primary victories in Ohio and Texas on March 4, beginning a stretch in which she won primaries in six of the final nine states on the calendar.

    It was a strong run, providing glimpses of what might have been for the one-time front-runner.

    But by then Obama was well on his way to victory, Clinton and her allies stressed the popular vote instead of delegates. Yet he seemed to emerge from each loss with residual strength.

    Obama's bigger-than-expected victory in North Carolina on May 6 offset his narrow defeat in Indiana the same day. Four days later, he overtook Clinton's lead among superdelegates, the party leaders she had hoped would award her the nomination on the basis of a strong showing in swing states.

    Obama lost West Virginia by a whopping 67 percent to 26 percent on May 13. Yet he won an endorsement the following day from former presidential rival and one-time North Carolina Sen. John Edwards.

    Clinton administered another drubbing in Kentucky a week later. This time, Obama countered with a victory in Oregon, and turned up that night in Iowa to say he had won a majority of all the delegates available in 56 primaries and caucuses on the calendar.

    There were moments of anger, notably in a finger-wagging debate in South Carolina on Jan. 21.

    Obama told the former first lady he was helping unemployed workers on the streets of Chicago when "you were a corporate lawyer sitting on the board at Wal-Mart."

    Moments later, Clinton said that she was fighting against misguided Republican policies "when you were practicing law and representing your contributor ... in his slum landlord business in inner city Chicago."

    And Bill Clinton was a constant presence and an occasional irritant for Obama. The former president angered several black politicians when he seemed to diminish Obama's South Carolina triumph by noting that Jesse Jackson had also won the state.

    Obama's frustration showed at the Jan. 21 debate, when he accused the former president in absentia of uttering a series of distortions.

    "I'm here. He's not," the former first lady snapped.

    "Well, I can't tell who I'm running against sometimes," Obama countered.

    There were relatively few policy differences. Clinton accused Obama of backing a health care plan that would leave millions out, and the two clashed repeatedly over trade.

    Yet race, religion, region and gender became political fault lines as the two campaigned from coast to coast.

    Along the way, Obama showed an ability to weather the inevitable controversies, most notably one caused by the incendiary rhetoric of his former pastor, the Rev. Jeremiah Wright.

    At first, Obama said he could not break with his longtime spiritual adviser. Then, when Wright spoke out anew, Obama reversed course and denounced him strongly.

    Clinton struggled with self-inflicted wounds. Most prominently, she claimed to have come under sniper fire as first lady more than a decade earlier while paying a visit to Bosnia.

    Instead, videotapes showed her receiving a gift of flowers from a young girl who greeted her plane.


    Here is looking at you Keltoi j/k.... Now the question is who will be the next president of the US, John McCain or Barack Obama and who will the VP's be?
    McCain because Clinton supporters has made it clear in public, on tv that they will not support Obama. That if he was white he wouldn't have won the nomination. That Obama camp was being sexist.
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    Re: AP Talley: Obama clinches nomination

    format_quote Originally Posted by Izyan View Post
    McCain because Clinton supporters has made it clear in public, on tv that they will not support Obama. That if he was white he wouldn't have won the nomination. That Obama camp was being sexist.
    who are you thinking the VP's will be? I think that many Clinton supporters wont vote for Obama but that certainly doesnt mean none of them will and obviously McCain has a following, but Obama has brought record numbers to the polls.. I think it will be a very close election, I also think a lot of it has to do with who the VP's are in this case, it will probably be the next thing the media blows up...

    I am not really sure who i am going to vote for right now, I have to hear what their plans and ideas and debates sound like
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    Re: AP Talley: Obama clinches nomination

    format_quote Originally Posted by MTAFFI View Post
    who are you thinking the VP's will be? I think that many Clinton supporters wont vote for Obama but that certainly doesnt mean none of them will and obviously McCain has a following, but Obama has brought record numbers to the polls.. I think it will be a very close election, I also think a lot of it has to do with who the VP's are in this case, it will probably be the next thing the media blows up...

    I am not really sure who i am going to vote for right now, I have to hear what their plans and ideas and debates sound like
    Even though the party leaders are putting pressure on Obama to select Clinton it won't happen. She burned that bridge. Once again Clinton supporters has specificly said they're voting for McCain. If you count Clinton supporters and Independents it's a landslide. As for VP keep a close eye on a Southern white Male. Possibly McCain
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    Re: AP Talley: Obama clinches nomination

    Whos is better Mccain Or Obama ????
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    Re: AP Talley: Obama clinches nomination

    format_quote Originally Posted by Izyan View Post
    Even though the party leaders are putting pressure on Obama to select Clinton it won't happen. She burned that bridge. Once again Clinton supporters has specificly said they're voting for McCain. If you count Clinton supporters and Independents it's a landslide. As for VP keep a close eye on a Southern white Male. Possibly McCain
    When did every Clinton supporter specifically say they are voting McCain? I know many will, but as I said before certainly not every one of them. If you look at the polls, Obama is beating McCain or at the least tying him in every poll, there was only a short period back with the Wright deal that McCain pulled out in front in anything. I think it would be very neophytic to assume that this election will in any way be a landslide.. When was the last time McCain had a crowd of 75,000 people come to hear him speak?

    By the southern white male, I assume you are talking about John Edwards with Obama? That was who I was thinking at least.. As for McCain, Condi Rice, Romney or Lieberman are all possible, it will be interesting to see
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    Obama will need alot of help in the South, so picking a southern VP might give him a little boost. Personally I think Obama is going to have a difficult time in the general election. Obama gives a good speech, but when the debates start he is going to have to go into detail about his proposed policies and attempt to convince people he is more qualified than John McCain. Good luck with that.
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    Re: AP Talley: Obama clinches nomination

    format_quote Originally Posted by MTAFFI View Post
    When did every Clinton supporter specifically say they are voting McCain? I know many will, but as I said before certainly not every one of them. If you look at the polls, Obama is beating McCain or at the least tying him in every poll, there was only a short period back with the Wright deal that McCain pulled out in front in anything. I think it would be very neophytic to assume that this election will in any way be a landslide.. When was the last time McCain had a crowd of 75,000 people come to hear him speak?

    By the southern white male, I assume you are talking about John Edwards with Obama? That was who I was thinking at least.. As for McCain, Condi Rice, Romney or Lieberman are all possible, it will be interesting to see
    You don't need every Clinton supporter swinging. 25% is enough. Huckabee had the VP slot sowed up til he made that stupid comment at the NRA rally about Obama. I'm betting on Romney or the wild card Hilary.
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    format_quote Originally Posted by Keltoi View Post
    Obama will need alot of help in the South, so picking a southern VP might give him a little boost. Personally I think Obama is going to have a difficult time in the general election. Obama gives a good speech, but when the debates start he is going to have to go into detail about his proposed policies and attempt to convince people he is more qualified than John McCain. Good luck with that.
    VP candidates aew over rated when it comes to elections. The Democrats had a Texas politician as their VP candidate against GHW Bush and it did them no good. Edwards couldn't carry his own state against GW Bush.
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    Re: AP Talley: Obama clinches nomination

    format_quote Originally Posted by Izyan View Post
    VP candidates aew over rated when it comes to elections. The Democrats had a Texas politician as their VP candidate against GHW Bush and it did them no good. Edwards couldn't carry his own state against GW Bush.
    Perhaps I should have said a more centrist Southern VP candidate. Edwards is a mega-liberal. A mega-liberal will never carry the South. However, a more conservative Democrat might help carry places like Kentucky and South Carolina. Might being the operative word. It just depends on Obama's momentum.
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    Re: AP Talley: Obama clinches nomination

    format_quote Originally Posted by Keltoi View Post
    Obama will need alot of help in the South, so picking a southern VP might give him a little boost. Personally I think Obama is going to have a difficult time in the general election. Obama gives a good speech, but when the debates start he is going to have to go into detail about his proposed policies and attempt to convince people he is more qualified than John McCain. Good luck with that.
    I do hope the intelligent triumph over the mentally challenged americans this one time!
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    Re: AP Talley: Obama clinches nomination

    Obama holds great ideas for the US and his speeches are really good, I'm glad he got the nomination.

    By the way, does anybody have any information about what he plans on doing to the troops in Iraq & Afghanistan? Today I heard he was planning to pull them out but I was really confused because I thought he planned otherwise :confused
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    My opinion is Obama would win a general election. I disagree Mccain has an upper hand in debates.

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    format_quote Originally Posted by Izyan View Post
    You don't need every Clinton supporter swinging. 25% is enough. Huckabee had the VP slot sowed up til he made that stupid comment at the NRA rally about Obama. I'm betting on Romney or the wild card Hilary.
    really, so what do you think about NY, CA, PA? Are these states going to vote Republican this year? LOL... Take a look at republican vs. democrat turnouts, McCain will no doubt win WV and Mississippi and Alabama but that is hardly a concern.. Like I say, I havent chosen a candidate yet, but it seems your a bit "politically misguided".. Particularly your wild card, if that wasnt a joke
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    I do hope the intelligent triumph over the mentally challenged americans this one time!
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    format_quote Originally Posted by MTAFFI View Post
    really, so what do you think about NY, CA, PA? Are these states going to vote Republican this year? LOL... Take a look at republican vs. democrat turnouts, McCain will no doubt win WV and Mississippi and Alabama but that is hardly a concern.. Like I say, I havent chosen a candidate yet, but it seems your a bit "politically misguided".. Particularly your wild card, if that wasnt a joke
    That's 3 states out of 50. There were no chance of of a Republican winning those states even if Jesus came back and joined the Republican ticket. Why wouldn't Clinton be a wild card? McCain almost joined the ticket with Kerry. How is this different?
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    format_quote Originally Posted by Izyan View Post
    That's 3 states out of 50. There were no chance of of a Republican winning those states even if Jesus came back and joined the Republican ticket. Why wouldn't Clinton be a wild card? McCain almost joined the ticket with Kerry. How is this different?
    that is right... those are also three states, the biggest states, that Billary won, those are the states that kept her in the race, see where I am going with this or do we need to go deeper?

    Clinton wont go on the card for many very simple reasons, the main being that everything she has said up to this point does not agree with McCain. Not to mention, when have you ever seen a republican and democrat as president and vice president?
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    format_quote Originally Posted by MTAFFI View Post
    that is right... those are also three states, the biggest states, that Billary won, those are the states that kept her in the race, see where I am going with this or do we need to go deeper?

    Clinton wont go on the card for many very simple reasons, the main being that everything she has said up to this point does not agree with McCain. Not to mention, when have you ever seen a republican and democrat as president and vice president?
    George W Bush lost those states too and how did that work out for him? Yes but they weren't democrats and Republicans at the time. John Addams was President (Republican) while Thomas Jefferson was Vice President (Federalist).
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