i hope ur all well and good. i just find out on you tube, that we have a Miss pakistan!! i hate this honest! i can imagine it now.. everywhere/ thing on this dunya will be corrupted or bad.. in a few years time!
What annoys me is people say they are doing it for the country, what the heck.. Displaying their bodies, for men to look at is an achievement? I hate the fact alot of people are behind this rubbish, especially the Youth. in part.men..
i wana get out of this world, i am nt perfect, but aint ready for all this rubbish, this world will be messed up totally..Oh Allah , why cant u stop this happening, it feels like thers more bad than good. Where are the good? As soon as you oppose these things, people probably call you extreme and hate You.
I feel hopeless, the ummah is going down hill, we cant stop it. i guess its expected hey..
Allah Guide these muslims, Guide myself, Guide us all, honest:
Hey Sister, don't look at the bad side to this world and look on the good. We are here in the world because Allah sent us down for a test and that will include badness, as you say you're not perfect-no one and nothing is.Look on the bright side Sister: so many people are reverting to Islam showing us and the world that there is good.
I do see where you're coming from Sister but remember, Allah is with us and is always watching. The best thing to do is learn from the bad and produce good If YOU and the MUSLIM UMMAH keeps strong we will Insha'Allah won't go downhill. That was only few people not the representative of the whole Ummah, rememeber that
May Allah bless you and the muslim ummah And keep us away from the cursed shaytaan
jazakallah khair for that, but still things are gettin worse and worse and we cant change it!! insan is sometimes hopeless.. Allah hu alim, May he give us the strength to live in this dunya as good muslims... its shame we cant run away to a beutiful place on this world which is free from it all, am asking for jannah here... Ya Allah al madat.. O Allah help
And verily for everything that a slave loses there is a substitute, but the one who loses Allah will never find anything to replace Him.” [Related by Ibn al-Qayyim in ad-Dâ' wad-Dawâ Fasl 49]
U r not the alone one who feels so , we all feel the same. The thing is the environment is so bad , just protect your iman first and get used to the fact as one of the gr8 scholars said.
I dont remember the source
" You should get used to the fact that if every person on the earth disbeileves still i wont leave my faith"
Important Plz read:
May our tongues be the slaves of ALLAH.May no momin wear silk.May no momin wear oufit hanging below his ankles.May all mumineen wear hijab Ameen
The amount of evil that goes on this world, I would say this is a very minute thing in comparison, I can't really be worked over things like this - when people are dying continuously and I am expecting Pakistan and Iran to be attacked in the near future...
The amount of evil that goes on this world, I would say this is a very minute thing in comparison, I can't really be worked over things like this - when people are dying continuously and I am expecting Pakistan and Iran to be attacked in the near future...
although i think beauty contests are disgusting, i couldn't agree more with you.
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Yes I Saw A Show Of It. I was Shocked too~! They Told that The Girl has To Go through Same Stages as Every Model In Miss World Contest~! I Wondered that How is she a Muslim? CAuse There are Very forbidden requirements for the contest yet she became one.
How Ever I Agree With *KB* Its True If we look at world from how crupted it Becoming Its Very Heart Breaking & terrifing~! but if we look from Postive Angle there are people so Pure and So ... I can't find word for them. They are True Muslim in this era of time. Whether They Be Female Or Male Child Or Adult.
Anyway It's Recommeded By Our Beloved Prophet(S) that We Keeping Asking forgiveness in This Era. It will be Best ... Um what we call it prayer. (Correct me If I'm Wrong)
What is so disgusting about them? It's not like the models are forced to participate, to the contrary, so many would like to, but can't.
that's true - and the fact that many actually want to, i think is sad. often they are pushed since they are little kids, by their mother.
the main reason i find them disgusting is that i find women as meat disgusting.
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that's true - and the fact that many actually want to, i think is sad. often they are pushed since they are little kids, by their mother.
the main reason i find them disgusting is that i find women as meat disgusting.
I dion't think it's sad. It's good women are confident about their looks and are not afraid to cash it. If it pleases other people, even better. I think this is far from women being meat. Besides there's plenty of men beauty peagants.
What I find disgusting are the children beauty peagents. You've got plenty of those in the states.
the principle is the same - it is the objectification of a human being.
i should add that i find the use of the body (mostly women) to sell products disgusting also.
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the principle is the same - it is the objectification of a human being.
Modelling, secularly thinking - has nothing wrong with it as WhatsThePoint stated.
It is subjective morale which leads us to find different things right/wrong. Somtimes they could be derived from religion.
For this specific news, the focus is not if we find modelling "disgusting" - rather that a muslim country - is participating in something which Islam so strongly opposes.
I hope you understand the context of my post, it would be like an indian saying "it is disgusting/evil to eat meat" to muslims who do not believe in that morale.
What I mean is, even though I personally condemn modelling (as my morale is against it) - it is somewhat impossible, or rather useless, to debate with a secularist whether it is right/wrong to model. It will be based on subjective morale, with the secularists using objective morality as their basis on every topic.
Modelling, secularly thinking - has nothing wrong with it as WhatsThePoint stated.
It is subjective morale which leads us to find different things right/wrong. Somtimes they could be derived from religion.
For this specific news, the focus is not if we find modelling "disgusting" - rather that a muslim country - is participating in something which Islam so strongly opposes.
I hope you understand the context of my post, it would be like an indian saying "it is disgusting/evil to eat meat" to muslims who do not believe in that morale.
What I mean is, even though I personally condemn modelling (as my morale is against it) - it is somewhat impossible, or rather useless, to debate with a secularist whether it is right/wrong to model. It will be based on subjective morale, with the secularists using objective morality as their basis on every topic.
yes, i understand what you're saying - there is not point in debating it - it is subjective.
how many young girls starve themselves to become models? why do we find it acceptable to see images of half naked women to sell us crap that we don't need anyway?
yes - indeed, it is subjective.
btw, as skye remarked on another thread, i enjoy your posts and your thinking and am glad to have you on this forum.
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yes, i understand what you're saying - there is not point in debating it - it is subjective.
how many young girls starve themselves to become models? why do we find it acceptable to see images of half naked women to sell us crap that we don't need anyway?
yes - indeed, it is subjective.
btw, as skye remarked on another thread, i enjoy your posts and your thinking and am glad to have you on this forum.
On a secular view - on your point on starvation, they would just state they do not support starvation - but just because some do so does not mean that we should for example, condemn modelling. Similarly, they may state that just because some people end up ruined by gambling - does not mean it should be banned. Rather they would state it should be regulated.
Islam for example, bases alot of its principle of prevention before cure - That is, an act which does not neccessarily have to lead to sin or evil - but potentially could - becomes a sinful/evil act even if it leads to no evil - Hence you have the ban on drinking, the ban on free mixing, the ban on gambling and so fourth.
However, you would not find everyone agreeing with this - and to be honest (having debated with secularists, on many topics, such as prostitution and even my dissaproval of a mother supporting her 17 year old daughter to go stripping for fun), what you may feel strongly about, not everyone else does - and somtimes it is hard to understand how they could accept X but I guess it is something you have to accept - people see things differently.
yes, indeed - people do see things differently (and this is a good thing!), and i do accept this and don't try to change other people's thinking, though i am very opinionated. (and i tried plenty when i was young)
i do not condemn all modelling per se.
personally, i don't approve of gambling, but i would never ask for it to be banned. i wouldn't call for the banning of beauty contests either.
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!! i hate this honest! 
i can imagine it now.. everywhere/ thing on this dunya will be corrupted or bad.. in a few years time!
If YOU and the MUSLIM UMMAH keeps strong we will Insha'Allah won't go downhill. That was only few people not the representative of the whole Ummah, rememeber that
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