ok well is there really anything that you can use to know if a masjid is a real masjid? Like , a masjid, when u walk into it you know that ur in a masjid, you know ur in allah's house, you feel very good, you feel everyone around u is religious, or trying to be religious, or trying to convert to islam, or something...but then there's the "masjids" . Where you feel disgusted the second you park the car, and more disgusted looking at the people outisde, and even more, when opening the door and walking in.
I do NOT consider our local masjid a masjid. i consider it a dating line, haram home.
But how can you actually "claim" a masjid is a masjid? How can you know whats a real masjid? Is there liek any hadiths or something?
masjid - any place where Allah (swt) is worshipped, or a jamaah happens!
also the mosque your talkin about, surely everyone isnt like that innay! theres good and bad everywhere
I mean is there like any descriptions of whats a real masjid?
Coz a place where people go to flirt, imams are retarded, and salah is missed for basketball, is NOT a masjid.
How can you KNOW its not tho? like is there any hadiths or anything of the ...umm wats that word??? em... things a masjid must obey in order to be a masjid?? god i have the word i dunno what!
As the jalebi said, a definition of a masjid is a place where you can worship Allah (swt).
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As the jalebi said, a definition of a masjid is a place where you can worship Allah (swt).
lol i was serious tho. you walk up to an imam brushing his red beard and fixing his sunglasses while staring at a young hijabless lady and ask him whats the word ISLAM mean and they cannot answer it!
Ok then we dont have a masjid here people who go to the masjid here usually talk, play sports, eat, or sell and buy stuff, and rarely do u find praying people...when u do, they pray so fast, and they stare at u staring at them! What kinda prayer is that???
I mean is there like any descriptions of whats a real masjid?
Coz a place where people go to flirt, imams are retarded, and salah is missed for basketball, is NOT a masjid.
How can you KNOW its not tho? like is there any hadiths or anything of the ...umm wats that word??? em... things a masjid must obey in order to be a masjid?? god i have the word i dunno what!
in the Prophet (Saw) time the mosques were simple, like bricks, rocks and the roof was palm tree leaves, also i cant recall any hadiths where it described what a mosque looks like, because we can pray anywhere innit, like we can make a jamaah in the park and pray, so im not sure there is a hadiths outlinin what a mosques looks lik innaay, but maybe some one more knowledge able then moi can help you with that!!
lol, but surely not everyone goes their to flirt, and miss their salaah, however this is common unfortunately, like the mosque will run a social club and ppl turn up for the social club, and not the salaahs but thats the mosques fault its the people, even some people they have never stepped in a mosque, they have never prayed once, we cant blame their parents and say the parents never encouraged them, they are themselfs to blame.. gerrit
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in the Prophet (Saw) time the mosques were simple, like bricks, rocks and the roof was palm tree leaves, also i cant recall any hadiths where it described what a mosque looks like, because we can pray anywhere innit, like we can make a jamaah in the park and pray, so im not sure there is a hadiths outlinin what a mosques looks lik innaay, but maybe some one more knowledge able then moi can help you with that!!
lol, but surely not everyone goes their to flirt, and miss their salaah, however this is common unfortunately, like the mosque will run a social club and ppl turn up for the social club, and not the salaahs but thats the mosques fault its the people, even some people they have never stepped in a mosque, they have never prayed once, we cant blame their parents and say the parents never encouraged them, they are themselfs to blame.. gerrit
ah ok jazakallah khair.
the feeling thats not a masjid just never leaves me.
like sometimes even the imam, you kno, that guy supposed to be leading salah, he sits there talking to people in the cafeteria while people are waiting for him to go lead!! thats why i just pray alone then get outta that crappy sunday school/masjid as soon as possible!
Coz a place where people go to flirt, imams are retarded, and salah is missed for basketball, is NOT a masjid.
I dont know what are the criterias for a retarded imam as all imams are certified by the state religious authority... but flirting and missing prayer time is something unheard of in any Malaysian mosques...
Do your mosque have any mosque officials and seperate place for female?
Regarding your post about Imaams, this maybe an interersting read Insha'Allah.
With regard to the imam’s role in society, there is no doubt that it is an important role. How can it be otherwise when he is leading the prayers which are the most important pillar of Islam after the Shahaadatayn (twin testimony of faith)? The imam is the leader and the worshippers behind him are his followers. The imam guides and leads his jamaa’ah (group) by giving lessons and talks. The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) and the Rightly-Guided khaleefahs used to hold gatherings in the mosques where the Muslims would gather so that they might consult with one another concerning religious and worldly matters and so that they might teach the people about Tawheed, fiqh, good manners, and also enjoin what is good and forbid what is evil.”
See Ahkaam al-Imaamah wa’l-I’timaam fi’l-Salaah by al-Muneef, p. 64
The imam should check up on those who are absent (from the prayers), and visit the sick, He should strive to meet the needs of the Muslims who pray with him, teaching the ignorant, admonishing the negligent, advising the erring, reconciling those among whom there are differences, bringing them closer to one another and striving to foster friendship and love between them. He should strive to solve social problems that arise among them such as family quarrels, disputes between neighbours and the like. To sum up, the role of the imam is very important and should be appreciated as such. The group should help him to achieve the aims of sharee’ah and ward off anything that is bad or harmful. And Allaah is the Source of strength.
I dont know what are the criterias for a retarded imam as all imams are certified by the state religious authority... but flirting and missing prayer time is something unheard of in any Malaysian mosques...
Do your mosque have any mosque officials and seperate place for female?
not these imams.
yeh we got an upstairs for women. its always empty tho coz all the ladies are busy talking downstairs instead of praying, and when they do go upstairs to "pray" they rush near the glass part and start staring at the brothers praying since its right under us and there's no wall or anything blocking. :mad: and i dont even know anymore if we got mosque officials
format_quote Originally Posted by Abdul Baari
Regarding your post about Imaams, this maybe an interersting read Insha'Allah.
Interesting subject.. Well I would like to say which ever mosque is a dating line, haram home is definitely not a masjid. I think is a place where a muslim can come to remember Allah, worship Allah and think about Allah. They can read salah and the Quran. A masjid is a holy place and it should be kept clean and tidy, inside and outside.
:wl:
women aren't required to go to masjid anyway, are they?
if this is true and there is so little religion to be found among the members of your masjid, is staying home an option?
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format_quote Originally Posted by Riyadh-ul-Jannah
Interesting subject.. Well I would like to say which ever mosque is a dating line, haram home is definitely not a masjid. I think is a place where a muslim can come to remember Allah, worship Allah and think about Allah. They can read salah and the Quran. A masjid is a holy place and it should be kept clean and tidy, inside and outside.
:wl:
yah i kno, people in the masjid instead of praying zuhr at zuhr time , they go and sit in the cafeteria, then they take some music, turn it on ALL THE WAY, BAD MUSICCC and sit there playin sports and talking and all as if its some sort of clubbin crap
format_quote Originally Posted by snakelegs
women aren't required to go to masjid anyway, are they?
if this is true and there is so little religion to be found among the members of your masjid, is staying home an option?
Nah, but we go on eid, and some taraweeh prayers, and i have to go to stupid stupid sunday school which teaches u stupid stupid bull about stupid stupid fake religon tought by stupid stupid stuuuupid loser racist white teachers that dont kno crap!
Can you give me / us a definition of what you think:
A halal masjid is
and
A ha ram masjid is
I dont think you should be judging mosques!
i kno thats what i thought...oook
well...
Halal masjid - A halal masjid...no music. no haram. praying. muslims. true imams. no racists unless they looking for islam.
Haram masjid...or MY masjid - Girls flirting with boys in the kiddy playrooms, in the lobby, in the cafeteria, near the fountains, outside, and in the bball court. music very very very very very loud (yet amazingly addictive!!) playin everywhere while people SUPPOSED TO be praying but arent. People missing prayers for flirting, eating, sports, or music. imams that kno nothing pretty much, and watch there hijabless daughters flirt with people. etc etc.
issit bad to judge a masjid when its considered a haram place called a masjid?
Halal masjid - A halal masjid...no music. no haram. praying. muslims. true imams. no racists unless they looking for islam.
Haram masjid...or MY masjid - Girls flirting with boys in the kiddy playrooms, in the lobby, in the cafeteria, near the fountains, outside, and in the bball court. music very very very very very loud (yet amazingly addictive!!) playin everywhere while people SUPPOSED TO be praying but arent. People missing prayers for flirting, eating, sports, or music. imams that kno nothing pretty much, and watch there hijabless daughters flirt with people. etc etc.
issit bad to judge a masjid when its considered a haram place called a masjid?
btw where ya been?
hmm......ive never been to a masjid or heard of a masjid that
1) plays music
2) has a cafeteria
3) has a basketball court
4) Has a place for music
5) has a place for sport
6) has a place 2 chat up girls
I think you got the concept messed up ? You mean the prayer room in your college is haram ?
hmm......ive never been to a masjid or heard of a masjid that
1) plays music
2) has a cafeteria
3) has a basketball court
4) Has a place for music
5) has a place for sport
6) has a place 2 chat up girls
I think you got the concept messed up ? You mean the prayer room in your college is haram ?
EDIT: been busy with work, full time work kills!!
she's not in college yet
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whats a real masjid???
Jaa-Ro-Nee-Mo!!!
people who go to the masjid here usually talk, play sports, eat, or sell and buy stuff, and rarely do u find praying people...when u do, they pray so fast, and they stare at u staring at them! What kinda prayer is that???
but thats the mosques fault its the people, even some people they have never stepped in a mosque, they have never prayed once, we cant blame their parents and say the parents never encouraged them, they are themselfs to blame.. gerrit
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