issit haram if thers no instruments????

[truemuslim]

assalamu alaikum
would music be haram if it has no music in it? just the voice? and the words? human only. ?
and the lyrics aint badd?
wont make it haram right?

thank u
wassalam

[qassy!]

salam

I have no idea, the same way I have no idea if music is haram......

[truemuslim]

well i kno music is haram, but in them scholar thangs and hadiths things and all, it says that music is haram coz the instruments, and the bad lyrics...buuut , music wit instruments and good lyrics - the instruments = yu gots yo self a perfectly pure gangsta song (yeh thers a such thing!!) wit no bad lyrics or instruments!

btw i jus want answers so nobody be goin and sayin things like "u shudnt be listenin to music in ramadan, thers no point, etc etc" kk

[IbnAbdulHakim]

[MAD]ask a scholar


[/MAD]

[crayon]

As far as I know, it is the instruments and bad lyrics that are considered haram, so if you're just singing something with normal words, it should be acceptable inshallah. And Allah knows best.

[Umar001]

Well if the woman's voice is beautified as it normally is in singing then would be be halal for other than her husband?

[crayon]

Well if the woman's voice is beautified as it normally is in singing then would be be halal for other than her husband?

Ahh, true, I forgot about that.
No, I don't think it would be halal.

Again though, i'm not a scholar, try asking one, truemuslim.

[chacha_jalebi]

i think what is bein said is important aswell, like if the man is singin about a gal then our survey says NO

but like if the lyrics are poetry and halaal, like sheikh ibn al qayyims (rahimallah) meetin with Allah (Swt), that is always sang and stuff, and many of his other works are kinda of sang, so like if its poetry type halaal thins, then it should be fine, but Allah hu alim

[truemuslim]

lol yhh i totally kno like 50 scholars around my hood yo, ima ask one of them. (Not Really)

[IbnAbdulHakim]

lol yhh i totally kno like 50 scholars around my hood yo, ima ask one of them. (Not Really)

yeh true cant find a scholar so lets go fatwa shopping, shoppings fun innit [MAD]not really[/MAD]

[truemuslim]

yeh true cant find a scholar so lets go fatwa shopping, shoppings fun innit [mad]not really[/mad]

yah yur right. lemme jus continue wit my gangsta role and unpause what i were peacefully listenin to right?
(REALLY!) btw if u is mad jus use this hides ur anger. trust me.

[IbnAbdulHakim]

yah yur right. lemme jus continue wit my gangsta role and unpause what i were peacefully listenin to right?
(REALLY!) btw if u is mad jus use this hides ur anger. trust me.

i aint mad lol


you dont need to listen to your gangsta stuff though

unless you got this seriously unwiltering almost psychotic urge to always listen or you'll simply go CRAZY!.... :| you dont have that do you?

is it boredom? boredomes the reason for 99% sins i reckon,

well sis i kno u can find a million things on that youtube to check out



well hope Allaah helps you out sis, musics not the only way out

[truemuslim]

i aint mad lol


you dont need to listen to your gangsta stuff though

unless you got this seriously unwiltering almost psychotic urge to always listen or you'll simply go CRAZY!.... :| you dont have that do you?

is it boredom? boredomes the reason for 99% sins i reckon,

well sis i kno u can find a million things on that youtube to check out



well hope Allaah helps you out sis, musics not the only way out

oh
wow... i have never ever been able to put my music addiction in that amazingly perfect way! now i jus gotta look up half those words but still thats perfect. yes i do have to! why? because i got a *copy pastes wat u said*
mayb. coz im pretty sure im bored, see i cant think, like CANT THINK when i read a book or write a report or something if something good aint playin. i seriously tested it, i wrote an essay with listenin and an essay without, got an A with listening and a D without listening. i was like, dam!
i can barely watch lectures, they take like two hours till they get to the point, just like algebra class, thats what happens when u gotta 90 yr old teacher!
but what would make it haram? this time opinions, screw shopping, mall is closed!(its past 5pm!!)
im just desperate so please if anyone of u peoples is about to lose ur anger at my crappy hilariusly horrible dumb questions, please hold it (bcuz i have an URGE to fight back...tis an american thang)

[IbnAbdulHakim]

oh
wow... i have never ever been able to put my music addiction in that amazingly perfect way! now i jus gotta look up half those words but still thats perfect. yes i do have to! why? because i got a *copy pastes wat u said*
mayb. coz im pretty sure im bored, see i cant think, like CANT THINK when i read a book or write a report or something if something good aint playin. i seriously tested it, i wrote an essay with listenin and an essay without, got an A with listening and a D without listening. i was like, dam!
i can barely watch lectures, they take like two hours till they get to the point, just like algebra class, thats what happens when u gotta 90 yr old teacher!
but what would make it haram? this time opinions, screw shopping, mall is closed!(its past 5pm!!)
im just desperate so please if anyone of u peoples is about to lose ur anger at my crappy hilariusly horrible dumb questions, please hold it (bcuz i have an URGE to fight back...tis an american thang) hek you probably are much better then most of us..

i use to have the same problem as you

when i was in school i did all my gcse revision with music in the background, in college i studied with music in the background. it old my mum exactly the same excuse as you, i use to have an earphone pumpin my tunes every second

den dad died and i read Quran 1 week non-stop.. i mean NON-sTOP! like the first and last thing on my mind was reading more Quran... and then that urge just went.

i dont know what your cure is sis, all i know is your goin thru a rough patch right now, i'll make dua...


listen im gnna ask something seriously

try respecting islaam and its rulings a bit more... like when you KNOW the rulings try to stick to it,... dont fatwa shop and stuff

and when you do sin, admit it to be a huge sin, dont try justify it


at least this way you'll be the best of sinners, those who repent... and that'll make you MUUUCH better then most of us

[truemuslim]

i use to have the same problem as you

when i was in school i did all my gcse revision with music in the background, in college i studied with music in the background. it old my mum exactly the same excuse as you, i use to have an earphone pumpin my tunes every second

den dad died and i read Quran 1 week non-stop.. i mean NON-sTOP! like the first and last thing on my mind was reading more Quran... and then that urge just went.

i dont know what your cure is sis, all i know is your goin thru a rough patch right now, i'll make dua...


listen im gnna ask something seriously

try respecting islaam and its rulings a bit more... like when you KNOW the rulings try to stick to it,... dont fatwa shop and stuff

and when you do sin, admit it to be a huge sin, dont try justify it


at least this way you'll be the best of sinners, those who repent... and that'll make you MUUUCH better then most of us

yeh u sound like me (but a very religious changing version)

i do respect islam, and its rulings, when i asked about music back a while, i didnt KNOW or was Positive about it, but now i am, jus a bit hard following it. i guess breaking rules is in my blud I only ask things if im NOT positive or dont know about it being haram or notin. ya kno.

well i would say "dam i jus sinned again" but thats it.

Jazakalah khair bro.


btw in the beginning i asked for no lectures about why i shud quit music. reason was not because i wont take advice its more like i cant take advice, i have a shaytan shield over me so foget it.

[IbnAbdulHakim]

i didnt giv you no lecture, i spoke to you directly from experience, kinda like a 1-2-1 convo, a lectures when you dont allow much feedback

i got a suggestion for quittin music but im guessing you dont want it?

[truemuslim]

i didnt giv you no lecture, i spoke to you directly from experience, kinda like a 1-2-1 convo, a lectures when you dont allow much feedback

i got a suggestion for quittin music but im guessing you dont want it?

i kno u didnt gimme a lecture but i kno ther would be a bunch of people pouring with mile long posts i cant read unless i get graded on it.

see when u TELL me u gotta suggestion i cant resist...jus this ...

[IbnAbdulHakim]

huh :S should i give the suggestion? something i did is to try singing LOL [MAD]im not kidding[/MAD]

try beautifying your voice and singing halal stuff, its fun, it gets rid of boredom to an extent and if you sing praises like (laa ilaaha illallaah or other typsa dhikr) then u can feel your heart changing.


i gave the suggestion!!

[.: Jannati :.]

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I think in a logical sense, it would depend on the content of the lyrics? If they're not Islamic or anything of the sort, then why would you want to listen to something that wouldn't benefit you and your Akhirah? that time could easily be utilized listening to something more beneficial? like a lecture/talk or even Naseehah...

Wa'Allahu Alam.

[Najm]

AsSalamOAlaikum WaRehmatuAllah WaBarkatuhu

Its not just the instruments but also the lyrics. you can have any pop singer doing just instrumentals etc. Regarding instruments, some scholars says beats are ok, and some say just drums. I believe if you doubt something then its better not to do it. Hence i dont even listen to beats.

Oh just like to point out, maybe its a teenage thing that we blast the music during homework, revision, and even through college, as well as trying to learn all the lyrics to all your favourite songs. <<< Yep i did all that!!! What a regret it was!!! When you look back you realise what a waste of time it was!!! And the fact that music is harram!!! Nevertheless, deleting all my music off the computer( and there was 1000's), it was a depressing but a great turning point!!!

Now that i have gone away from music Alhamdulillah, i have replaced these with listening to the Qur'an, nasheeds with no beats, and a lot of islamic lectures, that way it'll always be benefitting me.

And finally id like to point out this particular Hadith....

The Prophet (Salalahu Alayhi WaSalam) said, "From among my followers there will be some people who will consider illegal sexual intercourse, the wearing of silk, the drinking of alcoholic drinks and the use of musical instruments, as lawful. " [Al-Bukhari Volume 7, Book 69, Number 494v].

InshaAllah this post will help

FiAmaaniAllah