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    ISLAMIC law has been officially adopted in Britain, with sharia courts given powers to rule on Muslim civil cases.

    The government has quietly sanctioned the powers for sharia judges to rule on cases ranging from divorce and financial disputes to those involving domestic violence.

    Rulings issued by a network of five sharia courts are enforceable with the full power of the judicial system, through the county courts or High Court.

    Previously, the rulings of sharia courts in Britain could not be enforced, and depended on voluntary compliance among Muslims.

    It has now emerged that sharia courts with these powers have been set up in London, Birmingham, Bradford and Manchester with the network’s headquarters in Nuneaton, Warwickshire. Two more courts are being planned for Glasgow and Edinburgh.

    Sheikh Faiz-ul-Aqtab Siddiqi, whose Muslim Arbitration Tribunal runs the courts, said he had taken advantage of a clause in the Arbitration Act 1996.

    Under the act, the sharia courts are classified as arbitration tribunals. The rulings of arbitration tribunals are binding in law, provided that both parties in the dispute agree to give it the power to rule on their case.

    Siddiqi said: “We realised that under the Arbitration Act we can make rulings which can be enforced by county and high courts. The act allows disputes to be resolved using alternatives like tribunals. This method is called alternative dispute resolution, which for Muslims is what the sharia courts are.”

    The disclosure that Muslim courts have legal powers in Britain comes seven months after Rowan Williams, the Archbishop of Canterbury, was pilloried for suggesting that the establishment of sharia in the future “seems unavoidable” in Britain.

    In July, the head of the judiciary, the lord chief justice, Lord Phillips, further stoked controversy when he said that sharia could be used to settle marital and financial disputes.

    In fact, Muslim tribunal courts started passing sharia judgments in August 2007. They have dealt with more than 100 cases that range from Muslim divorce and inheritance to nuisance neighbours.

    It has also emerged that tribunal courts have settled six cases of domestic violence between married couples, working in tandem with the police investigations.

    Siddiqi said he expected the courts to handle a greater number of “smaller” criminal cases in coming years as more Muslim clients approach them. “All we are doing is regulating community affairs in these cases,” said Siddiqi, chairman of the governing council of the tribunal.

    Jewish Beth Din courts operate under the same provision in the Arbitration Act and resolve civil cases, ranging from divorce to business disputes. They have existed in Britain for more than 100 years, and previously operated under a precursor to the act.

    Politicians and church leaders expressed concerns that this could mark the beginnings of a “parallel legal system” based on sharia for some British Muslims.

    Dominic Grieve, the shadow home secretary, said: “If it is true that these tribunals are passing binding decisions in the areas of family and criminal law, I would like to know which courts are enforcing them because I would consider such action unlawful. British law is absolute and must remain so.”

    Douglas Murray, the director of the Centre for Social Cohesion, said: “I think it’s appalling. I don’t think arbitration that is done by sharia should ever be endorsed or enforced by the British state.”

    There are concerns that women who agree to go to tribunal courts are getting worse deals because Islamic law favours men.

    Siddiqi said that in a recent inheritance dispute handled by the court in Nuneaton, the estate of a Midlands man was divided between three daughters and two sons.

    The judges on the panel gave the sons twice as much as the daughters, in accordance with sharia. Had the family gone to a normal British court, the daughters would have got equal amounts.

    In the six cases of domestic violence, Siddiqi said the judges ordered the husbands to take anger management classes and mentoring from community elders. There was no further punishment.

    In each case, the women subsequently withdrew the complaints they had lodged with the police and the police stopped their investigations.

    Siddiqi said that in the domestic violence cases, the advantage was that marriages were saved and couples given a second chance.

    Inayat Bunglawala, assistant secretary-general of the Muslim Council of Britain, said: “The MCB supports these tribunals. If the Jewish courts are allowed to flourish, so must the sharia ones.”

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    Re: Revealed: UK’s first official sharia courts

    It is amazing, they are enforcing shari3a law in England and not in countries like Egypt or syria etc etc...
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    Re: Revealed: UK’s first official sharia courts

    Lol i wudnt exactly say they enforcing the Law of Quraan and Sunnah...

    This dont mean its halal to settle here either
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    Re: Revealed: UK’s first official sharia courts

    I don't particularly care for the UK, however, small the step toward establishing shari3a law, I find it impressive and at least in comparison to so-called Muslim countries...

    as for where or where not it is halal to settle, I believe that is a personal judgment..
    and Allah knows best

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    Re: Revealed: UK’s first official sharia courts

    proper link >> http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...cle4749183.ece to read article and reactions to it

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    Re: Revealed: UK’s first official sharia courts

    eh I hate reading comments, whenever I post my opinion, I get. 'thank you, we can't gurantee it will be published' but of course anti-Islamic rhetoric does...
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    Re: Revealed: UK’s first official sharia courts

    It amazes me how left supports radical right.
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    Re: Revealed: UK’s first official sharia courts

    format_quote Originally Posted by aaron85 View Post
    it amazes me how left supports radical right.
    lulz
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    Re: Revealed: UK’s first official sharia courts

    format_quote Originally Posted by Chuck View Post
    lulz
    I meant that socialists who have mouths full of words about equality of sexes and feminism and emancipation of sexual minorities have supported law which sees men and women as not equal.
    I have read that lately there was example that after muslim father death in UK his sons got bigger share of money after him than the daughters, which was sanctioned by UK shariah council in that town. IN other example a man beating his wife was advised by religious court to "calm his temper" and he was set free.
    Of course I know that it is not whle shariah law,it is just for marriage and family cases. Just like jews and sikhs have their religious courts for these affairs. Which means that muslims in UK cant kill apostates or adulterers in their cominity (at least not officialy).
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    Re: Revealed: UK’s first official sharia courts

    format_quote Originally Posted by Aaron85 View Post
    I meant that socialists who have mouths full of words about equality of sexes and feminism and emancipation of sexual minorities have supported law which sees men and women as not equal.
    I have read that lately there was example that after muslim father death in UK his sons got bigger share of money after him than the daughters, which was sanctioned by UK shariah council in that town. IN other example a man beating his wife was advised by religious court to "calm his temper" and he was set free.
    Of course I know that it is not whle shariah law,it is just for marriage and family cases. Just like jews and sikhs have their religious courts for these affairs. Which means that muslims in UK cant kill apostates or adulterers in their cominity (at least not officialy).
    you never stop, do you?its amazing how your type is allowed to post distortions time after time, yet I once got banned from here for life for trying to stop you
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    Re: Revealed: UK’s first official sharia courts

    this might might be a good sign, even if its not full enforcing of the Law of Quraan and Sunnah...its gonna be the beginning toward that stage
    I think that UK do really need such courts if we consider the number of muslims in the UK.
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    Re: Revealed: UK’s first official sharia courts

    format_quote Originally Posted by Skye Ephémérine View Post
    It is amazing, they are enforcing shari3a law in England and not in countries like Egypt or syria etc etc...
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    Speaking out agiasnt the ruler = Dogs of hell fire

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    Re: Revealed: UK’s first official sharia courts

    Well, pretty much as I predicted.

    It wont stagger people to learn, my opinion is Britian is a secular country with secular laws and that should be the case. No if's no buts.
    No Jewish courts, no Islamic courts, no Mormon courts.

    Its the start of the slope.
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    Re: Revealed: UK’s first official sharia courts

    format_quote Originally Posted by Aaron85 View Post
    I meant that socialists who have mouths full of words about equality of sexes and feminism and emancipation of sexual minorities have supported law which sees men and women as not equal.
    I have read that lately there was example that after muslim father death in UK his sons got bigger share of money after him than the daughters, which was sanctioned by UK shariah council in that town. IN other example a man beating his wife was advised by religious court to "calm his temper" and he was set free.
    Of course I know that it is not whle shariah law,it is just for marriage and family cases. Just like jews and sikhs have their religious courts for these affairs. Which means that muslims in UK cant kill apostates or adulterers in their cominity (at least not officialy).
    inheritance laws are set so that a woman gets to keep her share, but a man has to use his share for the both of them. In other words, let's take a secular example.. someone like Britney spears according to secular laws, has to pay alimony for her husband because she makes the bigger income and he has custody, in according with Sharia law, she is to keep her fortune and the man is obligated to pay alimony even if he makes 1/8 of what she is making.. In other words, according to shari3a a woman isn't treated equal to you, she is supposed to be treated 'better than you'

    It infuriates me actually reading all the ignorant comment made, on the webpage, itself, but it is no matter, in due time people will see the right way, isn't a moronic system of 12 ignorant jurors or some haphazard laws made by another moron who can't understand the physical/psychological and social differences between men and woman...

    I can also offer you this as an answer, the only other religion that has a complete political system is Judaism, not sikhs, not jans, and I dare even say not christians...so I don't see one way or the other why it would be a bother to be subject to the whimsy of men's laws, rather than proper divine jurisprudence.

    The law against apostates, is implemented only where there is an Islamic state.. for the same exact reasons, the death penalty is implemented in the united states against treason (I call your attention for instance to Ethyl and Julius Rosenberg) treason is treason, where I personally think it a greater offense to be committed against God, rather than the state!

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    Re: Revealed: UK’s first official sharia courts

    I was reading the comments on the web page, what is there to say about it! It just shows how ignorant people are about Islam and the need for us to get up and educate them. People are starting to associate non-islamic things with Islam just because it is repeated so often to them without any evidence from the religion until they belief it to be true.
    Also some people were saying that they feel sorry for muslim women and that they have no choice in whether they want to go to a shariah court. I wish they knew that we don't need their sympathy or their sorry. Alhamdulilah we are happy with our religion and if they can't accept that it is their problem not mine.
    Also, people keep thinking that shairah has something to do with arabs, Islam is not an arab religion but a religion for all of mankind. I can't belief how people can say that they need to leave our country when Islam is a religion which anyone can practice and it is not restricted to one land or country.

    We muslims need to do more and try to enlighten non-muslims on the true teachings of Islam.

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    Re: Revealed: UK’s first official sharia courts

    good luck trying to get your opinion in there, I honestly believe there is no such thing as freedom of expression, unless of course you are free to express their ignorant rhetoric..

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    Re: Revealed: UK’s first official sharia courts

    So United Kingdom is the second European country having Shariah Court for Family matters after Greece...
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    Re: Revealed: UK’s first official sharia courts

    format_quote Originally Posted by Aaron85 View Post
    I have read that lately there was example that after muslim father death in UK his sons got bigger share of money after him than the daughters, which was sanctioned by UK shariah council in that town.
    And what you fail to mention is that the women get to keep their money from them selves and can't be forced to spend it on anything they don't want to, but that the men are OBLIGED to spend their money on their families.
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    Re: Revealed: UK’s first official sharia courts

    format_quote Originally Posted by barney View Post
    Well, pretty much as I predicted.

    It wont stagger people to learn, my opinion is Britian is a secular country with secular laws and that should be the case. No if's no buts.
    No Jewish courts, no Islamic courts, no Mormon courts.

    Its the start of the slope.

    Barney, you are an Englishman, what your friends and family says about this subject? They are somehow dissapointed on Labour about that? Do you think that the reason is the brittish way of dealing with immigrants which is based on multiculturalism, while for example France chose assimilation?
    Question to muslims, what kind of things would these courts rule? Family and marriage issues has very wide meaning. Can someone name it more specific?
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    Re: Revealed: UK’s first official sharia courts

    format_quote Originally Posted by Aaron85 View Post
    Barney, you are an Englishman, what your friends and family says about this subject? They are somehow dissapointed on Labour about that? Do you think that the reason is the brittish way of dealing with immigrants which is based on multiculturalism, while for example France chose assimilation?
    Question to muslims, what kind of things would these courts rule? Family and marriage issues has very wide meaning. Can someone name it more specific?
    My freinds and family havnt said anything about it. Issues like the UK becoming a theocracy dont interest them. They are interested in Big Brother and Football and politics for them is bashing America, because everyone does.

    In a general sense, I think most non-muslim English will furrow their brow and say "hmmph! thats the start of the slippery slope...were all going to be ruled by muslims and they'll chop off our heads with big swords for wearing strappy sandles" Then they'll go and eat some fish and chips and forget about it.

    The English in my opinion, like multiculturalism as a concept. They will be disgusted at racism or white supremacy, but they have a nagging feeling that its not actually working like it should. We were told that all people are equal and we would all live together happily and repectfully, smiling at each other , talking freely and sharing each others cultures.

    What we got was Halton Moor in Leeds, Dewsbury and Bradford. The adopted people gathered in estates where nowadays less than 3% of the residents are white and if your driving through or walking through a sea of faces will stare at you. You are clearly encroaching on their land. I asked over seven people for directions one day last year. i know that you shouldnt mix unnessecerily with Kaffir, but i was asking directions. It's only polite to answer. The self isolation that "not imitating" and "not taking freinds amongst" causes has built a fractured parody of what multiculturalism was supposed to be.

    It's not all muslim centered. The current Polish influx in my town has opened up Polish delicatessens, Polish sweetshops selling polish foods to polish people and carved a square mile of the town into a Polish area.

    I am in favour of multiculturalism. But that means mixing, it means talking, it means sharing culture not building a walled city of your own "race", being freindly, being approachable and it certainly DOSNT mean wheedeling your own law system into someone elses country under the guise of political correctness.:enough!::enough!::enough!:

    Rants over now.
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