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    I just found this really odd. I know Christians find this offensive but what about Muslims? Like would Muslims take this as a mockery of Jesus as well?

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    Re: Amsterdan's Gay Christmass

    I find it offensive and a mockery of one of our most loved Prophets(PBUH) and a dishonor to one of the most highly respected women in the Qur'an.
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    Re: Amsterdan's Gay Christmass

    format_quote Originally Posted by Woodrow View Post
    I find it offensive and a mockery of one of our most loved Prophets(PBUH) and a dishonor to one of the most highly respected women in the Qur'an.
    That's what I thought. Everytime something like this happens I hear some Christians say, "well, they wouldn't offend Muslims like this!"

    Which I always found odd as I assumed Muslims would find it offensive as well
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    Re: Amsterdan's Gay Christmass

    I wonder if bringing up Sodom and Gomorrah would be a good idea there. LOL.:X

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    Re: Amsterdan's Gay Christmass

    format_quote Originally Posted by wth1257 View Post
    That's what I thought. Everytime something like this happens I hear some Christians say, "well, they wouldn't offend Muslims like this!"

    Which I always found odd as I assumed Muslims would find it offensive as well
    Muslims tend to be more respectful. No images of Prophets or Allah, always saying Peace be upon them, etc.

    It is simply hard to do this because it is so clearly forbidden in every way. You just cant realistically differ.
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    As disrespectful, dishonourable, offensive and just plain weird as this is...

    It is Amsterdam, Hedonist Capital of the World.
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    It's good the city council supported it.
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    Re: Amsterdan's Gay Christmass

    format_quote Originally Posted by wth1257 View Post
    That's what I thought. Everytime something like this happens I hear some Christians say, "well, they wouldn't offend Muslims like this!"

    Which I always found odd as I assumed Muslims would find it offensive as well
    well the thing is who is 'they'? these people i assume are 'christians', not practising but the type that celebrate christmas. They are disrespecting themselves, the whole situation is saddening. If these people cannot respect what they 'believe' in then no one will.
    may Allah protect the muslims from ever disrespecting any of His Beloved Prophets.
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    format_quote Originally Posted by amani View Post
    well the thing is who is 'they'? these people i assume are 'christians', not practising but the type that celebrate christmas. They are disrespecting themselves, the whole situation is saddening. If these people cannot respect what they 'believe' in then no one will.
    may Allah protect the muslims from ever disrespecting any of His Beloved Prophets.
    lol

    the "they" is never explicitly stated:X
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    Re: Amsterdan's Gay Christmass

    format_quote Originally Posted by Whatsthepoint View Post
    It's good the city council supported it.
    Why? What is beneficial about the gratuitous mockery of the religious faith of millions of individuals?
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    Re: Amsterdan's Gay Christmass

    format_quote Originally Posted by wth1257 View Post
    Why? What is beneficial about the gratuitous mockery of the religious faith of millions of individuals?
    Who's getting hurt? If people don't like it, they can simply ignore it.
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    Re: Amsterdan's Gay Christmass

    format_quote Originally Posted by Tornado View Post
    Who's getting hurt? If people don't like it, they can simply ignore it.
    whatever
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    Re: Amsterdan's Gay Christmass

    format_quote Originally Posted by Tornado View Post
    Who's getting hurt? If people don't like it, they can simply ignore it.

    It's a parade. It's not like this was something they did in private just for kicks.

    One cannot ignore it when they publish the event and draw attention to themselves. I do not contest their rights to be sophomoric imbeciles or engadge in crude behavior unbecoming mature individuals.
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    Re: Amsterdan's Gay Christmass

    Now that's just messed up.

    Can't they dress up like something else.
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    Re: Amsterdan's Gay Christmass

    format_quote Originally Posted by Alpha Dude™ View Post
    I really hate this kind of attitude.

    Can you honestly tell me that you would not be in the slightest bit annoyed if say your mother or your wife or anyone dear to you was mocked in public in a similar kind of event? Sure, you could ignore it, but can you honestly say that it wouldn't annoy you that such a show would still even be in existence?

    Followers of the major religions often love their religious figures more than they love their own family and friends, so seeing such a spectacle would be more insulting than the insult you would feel for your loved one.
    Actually, I wouldn't be annoyed and I really would ignore it. Furthermore, they can make a mockery out of me as well, so long as no one is getting hurt.
    There are more important issues than this.
    If I say it's o.k. for someone to make a mockery of me, then anyone else good as well imho. I personally wouldn't offend but I rather not take someone's ability to do that.
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    Re: Amsterdan's Gay Christmass

    format_quote Originally Posted by Muezzin View Post
    As disrespectful, dishonourable, offensive and just plain weird as this is...

    It is Amsterdam, Hedonist Capital of the World.
    Modern Sodoma and Gomora. But I dont want to point fingers, as you can find immorality in cities in my country too. Its just that in Holland they made all this legal.
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    Re: Amsterdan's Gay Christmass

    format_quote Originally Posted by Tornado View Post
    Who's getting hurt? If people don't like it, they can simply ignore it.
    How about I walk up to you and make fun of your mother, sister, old grandpa, deceased ones?

    YOU arent getting hurt are you?

    So you think mocking figures whom billions revere and millions have died for and devoted their lives to is right?

    Get real you fool. As an atheist you may think religion is just another idea but is it much more than that. It is everything to many, including myself.

    If you would like to punch me for making fun of your closest loved ones, you better be ****ed sure I would do the same to you if you insult my religion. Only the Prophet's example and my love and fear of Allah keeps me from striking you.
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    Re: Amsterdan's Gay Christmass

    format_quote Originally Posted by AntiKarateKid View Post
    How about I walk up to you and make fun of your mother, sister, old grandpa, deceased ones?

    YOU arent getting hurt are you?

    So you think mocking figures whom billions revere and millions have died for and devoted their lives to is right?

    Get real you fool. As an atheist you may think religion is just another idea but is it much more than that. It is everything to many, including myself.

    If you would like to punch me for making fun of your closest loved ones, you better be ****ed sure I would do the same to you if you insult my religion. Only the Prophet's example and my love and fear of Allah keeps me from striking you.
    :enough!:
    exactly
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    Re: Amsterdan's Gay Christmass

    format_quote Originally Posted by AntiKarateKid View Post
    How about I walk up to you and make fun of your mother, sister, old grandpa, deceased ones?

    YOU arent getting hurt are you?

    So you think mocking figures whom billions revere and millions have died for and devoted their lives to is right?

    Get real you fool. As an atheist you may think religion is just another idea but is it much more than that. It is everything to many, including myself.

    If you would like to punch me for making fun of your closest loved ones, you better be ****ed sure I would do the same to you if you insult my religion. Only the Prophet's example and my love and fear of Allah keeps me from striking you.
    :enough!:
    format_quote Originally Posted by TKTony View Post
    exactly
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    format_quote Originally Posted by Tornado View Post
    Actually, I wouldn't be annoyed and I really would ignore it. Furthermore, they can make a mockery out of me as well, so long as no one is getting hurt.
    There are more important issues than this.
    If I say it's o.k. for someone to make a mockery of me, then anyone else good as well imho. I personally wouldn't offend but I rather not take someone's ability to do that.
    Religion is more than just YOU. You dont seem to get that. They have a right to doom themselves, it is decreed by God. Religion is more than just your personal issues.

    I will mind if I see bullies verbally abusing a child. I will mind if I see a man who decides to portray the very reason why some people live, as a transexual or gay.

    And they call us HATE filled? Intolerant? For criticizing homosexuality I am a bigot?? But them mocking our religion, Jesus, they are exercising their "rights"???
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