Love & Lust

[dilkadr]

Love is Beautiful Gown of Lust

[Sahabiyaat]

how can something as beautiful as love, grow out of something lowly as lust?

I disagree.

[dilkadr]

Well, aren't they 2 faces of same coin ?:rolleyes:

[Mikayeel]

Should it not be that lust is grown out of love?

[Sahabiyaat]

yup i think so too.

[Ibn Abi Ahmed]

Ibn Hazm put it beautifully:

If the cause of Love were physical beauty, the consequence would be that no body defective in any shape or form would attract admiration; yet we know of many a man actually preferring the inferior article, though well aware that another is superior, and quite unable to turn his heart away from it. Again, if Love were due to a harmony of characters, no man would love a person who was not of like purpose and in concord with him. We therefore conclude that Love is something within the soul itself. Sometimes, it is true, Love comes as a result of a definite cause outside the soul, but then it passes away when the cause itself disappears: one who is fond of you because of a certain circumstance will turn his back on you when that motive no longer exists.

[Tawq Al Hamamah]

[alcurad]

everyone's idea of physical beauty is different, 'lust' is mainly the basis for love. but then, there are many kinds of love, I'm talking about the one between spouses.
this doesn't subtract anything from love though, why should it? this is how w were made.

[Woodrow]

Love and lust differ as far removed from each other as the East is from the West. The physical attraction that forms out of love is not related to lust, it is a mutual sharing and a bond formed of love, trust and respect.

Lust is one sided and concentrates only upon satisfaction of the individual with no need or expectation of pleasing the other. It is a simple physical need that is no different then any other form of fulfilling a bodily function.

Lust will more often become a barrier to love, rather then love becoming the gown of lust.

If lust were the key to love, there would be no need to protect ourselves from lustful thoughts and behaviors. Rather it would be a reason to encourage things we consider obscene.

[alcurad]

what is considered obscene is allowed between husband and wife, we don't repress lustful behavior as much as channel it.
love begins as physical attraction, then evolves,,

[Zahida]

That is such a te and beautiful quote. Anyone with this kind of experience would agree.........:smile:

Ibn Hazm put it beautifully:

If the cause of Love were physical beauty, the consequence would be that no body defective in any shape or form would attract admiration; yet we know of many a man actually preferring the inferior article, though well aware that another is superior, and quite unable to turn his heart away from it. Again, if Love were due to a harmony of characters, no man would love a person who was not of like purpose and in concord with him. We therefore conclude that Love is something within the soul itself. Sometimes, it is true, Love comes as a result of a definite cause outside the soul, but then it passes away when the cause itself disappears: one who is fond of you because of a certain circumstance will turn his back on you when that motive no longer exists.

[Tawq Al Hamamah]

[dilkadr]

Should it not be that lust is grown out of love?

No, not really.
Cause,
Everyone talks about love and seek opportunity to satisfy his/her lust.
Its based on my observations - maybe others have other points of views.
anyways, thanks for your contribution.

[dilkadr]

That is such a te and beautiful quote. Anyone with this kind of experience would agree.........:smile:

Thanks,
It is really a nice quote based on the reality of life and souls.
But such men are very few, my observation contradicts this basic instinct of human soul.
People are more body oriented now then soul oriented.
Regards,

[dilkadr]

what is considered obscene is allowed between husband and wife, we don't repress lustful behavior as much as channel it.
love begins as physical attraction, then evolves,,

Usually, it don't evolve after the physical gratification achieved.
It is common observation in present times

[dilkadr]

Love and lust differ as far removed from each other as the East is from the West. The physical attraction that forms out of love is not related to lust, it is a mutual sharing and a bond formed of love, trust and respect.

Lust is one sided and concentrates only upon satisfaction of the individual with no need or expectation of pleasing the other. It is a simple physical need that is no different then any other form of fulfilling a bodily function.

Lust will more often become a barrier to love, rather then love becoming the gown of lust.

If lust were the key to love, there would be no need to protect ourselves from lustful thoughts and behaviors. Rather it would be a reason to encourage things we consider obscene.

Very well said bro,

I. In present time - media has unified many things in East and West, concept of love is very much influenced by the Western Media. I can be observed through cable TV channels [though it is not the whole world, but it is representative of popular opinion and lesson for the weak minds/souls] there is little difference in Western and Easter people.

II. Well, i mean to point our towards the fact that people are using love to hide their lust [or use love as mask for their heinous lusty desires].

[dilkadr]

yup i think so too.

and my observations are forcing me to believe it.

[dilkadr]

BTW Discussion is going healthy and strong,
Getting nice opinions

[aminahjaan]

Here's what Rumi (famous persian poet) said to this:
You know what love is?
It is all kindness, generosity.
Disharmony prevails when
You confuse lust with love, while
The distance between the two
Is endless.

I agree with it, love is totally different from lust.
Lust is inevitable however, when you're first attracted to someone. Love grows and faces things, and is a strong emotion. Lust isn't like that.

[Cabdullahi]

here is how i put it lust is what forces a couple to an one night stand ...and true love is what forces a couple to live together in peace and harmony ....the two should not be put together

[Muezzin]

Lust is selfish.

Love is selfless.

[Nσσя'υℓ Jαииαн]

I dont agreeeee. If you claim u love someone and its nothing but physical, sorry to burst ur bubble dude but it aint love lol. Two completely different things. And the best love is love for Allah subhanahu wa ta'ala. Althought there is different kinds of love, the concept is almost the same, which lust isn't! Does that make sense?