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What is innocence?

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    What is innocence?

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    Brothers and Sisters,

    I was watching a lecture by Yusuf Estes and he mentioned "India is a good place to do Dawah because the people are still innocent"

    Now that got me wondering... what does innocence mean?

    Innocence = Simple?

    or

    Innocence = Gullible?

    or

    Innocence = Stupid?

    Can a person be clever and innocent at the same time?

    I am confused...

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    Re: What is innocence?

    im sure he ment it in a nice way i mean hes a good person mashallah, well Allah knows best how he ment it..
    What is innocence?

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    Re: What is innocence?

    I am sure he meant it in a good way but I am just curious about what innocence really is.
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    Re: What is innocence?



    being Innocent means not knowing how life works , that you dont know about the danger that is out there in life
    and about the consequences or yet not experienced.
    he can be clever , he can be dumb but If has no (or less) experience in life than he has Innocence in him.

    because a new born child is also an innocent , and if he has no one (parents, teachers etc.) that teaches him the way of life, he will still have innocence in him.


    thats probably what he meant, Allahu Alim I could be wrong though.
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    Re: What is innocence?

    format_quote Originally Posted by Hamayun View Post
    Brothers and Sisters,

    I was watching a lecture by Yusuf Estes and he mentioned "India is a good place to do Dawah because the people are still innocent"

    Now that got me wondering... what does innocence mean?

    Innocence = Simple?

    or

    Innocence = Gullible?

    or

    Innocence = Stupid?


    Can a person be clever and innocent at the same time?

    I am confused...

    Jazakallah Khair
    can you name the lecture because I remember him saying that inviting people of India [**other than shudrahs I presume ***(who are oppressed and are in same boat as us)], and Christian of Middle East/Balkans was suicidal due to their hatred of all things Islamic due to centuries of feeling of oppression/having been under our rule or having been involved in wars in which we beat their ancestors.

    on topic:
    Why would we want "Simple (oafish)" or"gullible" or "stupid" people in our ranks? do you see a shortage of such people in our faith?

    *** http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Pant...e_Shudras.html
    ** http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shudra

    can anyone be more innocent victim than them?
    Last edited by doorster; 03-21-2009 at 01:15 AM.
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    Re: What is innocence?

    What is innocence?
    You only know what is innocence when you've lost it.
    What is innocence?

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    Re: What is innocence?

    Contact him n ask him wat he meant, everyone's definition of innocence is different.: )
    Did he mean Muslim Indians, or Hindus?
    What is innocence?


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