Well I had a feeling this was going to happen. Not surprised.
I was looking at myself talking to myself and I realized this conversation...I was having with myself looking at myself was a conversation with myself that I needed to have with myself.
I'm pretty sure this didn't jsut happen today. Granted America is deep in debt but I think the latter part of the atricle is jsut a bit sensational. I mean that stuff isn't happening today, tomorrow, or next week. Maybe in a few decades, at that magnitude at least.
Anywways... I need to get in and out of med school before this happens lol.
Really, we're all just sitting around waiting for this. We all know it is coming, but no one here will talk about it and no one wants to believe it.
its like looking at the weather radar and watching this massive hurricane coming right at your city from 500 miles away. You go outside and it's all sunny and the birds are singing, but you can't really enjoy it because you know what is coming.
I hope the part about the tiny oligarchs silencing the minority and whatnot... i hope that's not true. Maybe we'll all move to Canada
well, we shouldnt gloat over this, okay, america will fall, but what does that mean for the Muslim nation? rather than looking out for America or any nation falling, we should look at ourselves and fix our own Ummah.
and lets be honest, if america fell apart Muslim nations would suffer alot as well because most Muslim nations are heavily dependent on the U.S. when it comes to technology, econamic trade, aid, etc etc.
well, we shouldnt gloat over this, okay, america will fall, but what does that mean for the Muslim nation? rather than looking out for America or any nation falling, we should look at ourselves and fix our own Ummah.
and lets be honest, if america fell apart Muslim nations would suffer alot as well because most Muslim nations are heavily dependent on the U.S. when it comes to technology, econamic trade, aid, etc etc.
No! How many muslims have died in Iraq and Afghanistan
I highly recommend that everyone at least read 2 out of the 3 articles that I will post. On Obama Torture and War. http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/...your_applause/
Really, we're all just sitting around waiting for this. We all know it is coming, but no one here will talk about it and no one wants to believe it.
its like looking at the weather radar and watching this massive hurricane coming right at your city from 500 miles away. You go outside and it's all sunny and the birds are singing, but you can't really enjoy it because you know what is coming.
I hope the part about the tiny oligarchs silencing the minority and whatnot... i hope that's not true. Maybe we'll all move to Canada
all usa could live at yanals place
"O ye who belive! Endure, outdo all others in endurance, be ready, and observe your duty to Allah, in order that you may succeed"
man, that author hedges has a really really honest perspective on things. hes right, but subhanaAllah it is so sad. We are really a "permanent war" nation.
lol fighting for democracy. i got a new signature now...
America seems to need to keep going to wars - to keep up the standard of living for the population. Not realy fighting for democracy (tell the iranins if they believe that) - its all about resources.
Do you think the pious don't sin?
They merely:
Veiled themselves and didn't flaunt it
Sought forgiveness and didn't persist
Took ownership of it and don't justify it
And acted with excellence after they had erred - Ibn al-Qayyim
What other future can have country built on enlightmen philosophic and masonic fundaments. USA had effective history but since their forefathers (Bejnamin Franklin, Thomas Jefferson etc) chose secularism, influences of such revolutionists like Voltaire and Montesquieu, the history is this country will be short and ongoing revolution. There is no one stable thing in this country, maybe except a Constitution which like all human made constitutions is just a piece of paper.
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This country is dying because of a lack of men, not a lack of programs.
If the United States fails, most the world will suffer *just as much or even more. What some say that is inevitable' is seen in only the eyes of the ones who want to believe in the destruction of the USA.
I believe that a country with over 304 million people can not fail, without taking most of the world with it. So we all should better pray for America and it's people, and the rest of the world too.
Anyway there's way to much propaganda out there on Internet land for me to believe that the USA will fail, fall, or whatever. We can't just read anything online and believe it, OR can we? I can't, I am much more than that....
If the United States fails, most the world will suffer *just as much or even more. What some say that is inevitable' is seen in only the eyes of the ones who want to believe in the destruction of the USA.
I believe that a country with over 304 million people can not fail, without taking most of the world with it. So we all should better pray for America and it's people, and the rest of the world too.
Anyway there's way to much propaganda out there on Internet land for me to believe that the USA will fail, fall, or whatever. We can't just read anything online and believe it, OR can we? I can't, I am much more than that....
Like all empres - when they go down - they create a ripple effect - most of the time creating power vacums that get filled up by other powers.
The rich will be badly effective - the poor will surivive as usual.
Do you think the pious don't sin?
They merely:
Veiled themselves and didn't flaunt it
Sought forgiveness and didn't persist
Took ownership of it and don't justify it
And acted with excellence after they had erred - Ibn al-Qayyim
If you cant handle them bring them down. If that is the case Obama is smart for seeking help from other leaders so if his country does fall he will have support. USA provides China,Canada and UK business that are known and many others that are not known but it will call much stress and be distriputive to all countries,insh'Allah that will not happen.
As long as there is no more wars, I'm happy. I don't think America Empire will come crashing down so soon. I'm sure other countries may have taken reasonable precautions to avoid being affected by American's downfall.
Even America would have realised this. They will too take precautions and try to reduce the damage.
I was looking at myself talking to myself and I realized this conversation...I was having with myself looking at myself was a conversation with myself that I needed to have with myself.
Its not over yet - and it doesnt seem likely anyway.
Do you think the pious don't sin?
They merely:
Veiled themselves and didn't flaunt it
Sought forgiveness and didn't persist
Took ownership of it and don't justify it
And acted with excellence after they had erred - Ibn al-Qayyim
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