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    This fact has always troubled me. The Noble Qur'an is seen and available in every home but whereas the books of Hadeeth are not. Though the Hadeeth come after the Qur'an in all degrees and all scholars say that the Hadeeth is the commentary of the Qur'an. It may not be a culture all over the world but here where I live I haven't seen any home with Sahih Bukhari or even Sahih Muslim. The six major books (Sahih Bukhari, Sahih Muslim, Sunan ibn-Majah, Sunan at-Tirmidhi, Sunan an-Nasai and Sunan Abu Dawood) are only found in libraries. From the past few months I have been planning to buy all 6 of them but when I told a fellow friend of mine, he said that I'd be going extremes by doing it and I should just go on with one of the four schools of thought.

    I've seen books like Muntakhab Ahadeeth and Fazail-i-'Amaal at many places and they seem to be serving the purpose of the Prophet's (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) sayings. Those books only deal with Salaah, Hajj, Ramadaan, Tableegh, Zikr etc whereas our beloved Rasoolullah (Sallallahu Alayhi Wasallam) has shown us directions in every path of life. Why is it preferred to ask an aalim every time you need guidance rather than reading and following the hadeeth yourself? I hope you guys understood what I was trying to say and throw some light on this issue.

    Why doesn't every Muslim home have the Hadeeth books?

    If Allah helps you, none can overcome you; and if He forsakes you, who is there after Him that can help you? And in Allah (Alone) let believers put their trust.
    Surah Ale Imran : 160

    It was narrated that Anas ibn Maalik (may Allaah be pleased with him) said:
    The Prophet (blessings and peace of Allaah be upon him) climbed up Uhud, accompanied by Abu Bakr, ‘Umar and ‘Uthmaan, and the mountain shook with them. He struck it with his foot and said: “Stand firm, O Uhud, for there is no one on you but a Prophet or a Siddeeq or two martyrs.”
    Narrated by al-Bukhaari (3483)

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    Re: Why doesn't every Muslim home have the Hadeeth books?

    Hadeeth books are available in some book stores near my home, but the problem is..................the price is too expensive !.

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    Re: Why doesn't every Muslim home have the Hadeeth books?

    salaam

    they are on the internet but you need fiqh anyway or a commentery by a scholar to understand them in context.

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    Why doesn't every Muslim home have the Hadeeth books?

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    Re: Why doesn't every Muslim home have the Hadeeth books?

    I tried to read a Hadeeth book however I don't understand it. :/

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    Re: Why doesn't every Muslim home have the Hadeeth books?

    format_quote Originally Posted by Ali_008 View Post
    Why is it preferred to ask an aalim every time you need guidance rather than reading and following the hadeeth yourself? I hope you guys understood what I was trying to say and throw some light on this issue.
    Hadeeth in Islam, serves the purpose of padding out Islam as a complete way of life, which it is. In the Qur'an it says to pray, fast, go for hajj etc. but exactly how to do that, we can only derive from the hadeeth. By doing so, we are deriving rulings essentially from these hadeeth. Scholars of the four major schools of thought, have spent their entire lives deriving rulings. A hadeeth can be interpreted several ways, one way may be correct, and the other may be incorrect.

    If you want to do an Alim course for at least 6 years to become a basic Alim, and then subsequently study for a number of years specialising in hadeeth, then be my guest. You can then order all the hadith books available and interpret them yourself.

    But, if not, then the next best thing is to stick to school of thought e.g. Hanifi, because Imam Abu Hanifa and his students, and the other Imams and their students have done the work, and derived the correct intepretations.

    There are several hadeeth, that concentrate on morals and characters that you find in the hadeeth books in most homes. So, I'm not saying don't buy the books. On the contrary, buy them and read the hadeeths. We have several hadith books, including the summarised version of Sahih Al-Bukhari. But, don't be surprised if you don't understand all of them. And there are many many books of hadith, not just the Sahih Al-Bukhari and Muslim.
    Last edited by Banu_Hashim; 06-22-2009 at 12:38 PM.
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    Re: Why doesn't every Muslim home have the Hadeeth books?

    format_quote Originally Posted by Ali_008 View Post


    This fact has always troubled me. The Noble Qur'an is seen and available in every home but whereas the books of Hadeeth are not.
    That is true! They are important and explain many things. I wish I had them but I am researching on the internet. I have noticed the language is quite hard for me to understand, even in many translations of the Quran. Does anybody know useful links or places where the translation language is a little modern or easy to understand for younger people or teenagers?
    Why doesn't every Muslim home have the Hadeeth books?

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    Re: Why doesn't every Muslim home have the Hadeeth books?

    Selam aleykum
    Not al muslims understand arabic, or even read it. And not all hadeethbooks have been translated in every different language.
    Why doesn't every Muslim home have the Hadeeth books?

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    Re: Why doesn't every Muslim home have the Hadeeth books?

    format_quote Originally Posted by paradise786 View Post
    Does anybody know useful links or places where the translation language is a little modern or easy to understand for younger people or teenagers?
    Try this one: http://www.ummah.net/what-is-islam/quran/neindex.htm

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    Re: Why doesn't every Muslim home have the Hadeeth books?

    I used to have a delightful Hadith encyclopedia on my previous computer, but alas that computer like many other electrical appliances I possessed met with a certain fate and I couldn't revive it or retrieve the info therein, it also had a nice tafisr a7lam book and a few stories and fatwa data base.. I really miss it ...
    now if I want to look a hadith up, not only do I struggle to find like words and search google, but I must also be met with a million anti-Islamic website before reaching my desired site..

    also the compendium of Muslim text has now been hijacked by Jews, I am not sure why? but it is just as well.. God forbid anything in the world should be untainted by their imperialistic hands...
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    Re: Why doesn't every Muslim home have the Hadeeth books?

    This is the best site for hadith I have ever come across;

    http://www.usc.edu/schools/college/c...muslim/hadith/

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    Re: Why doesn't every Muslim home have the Hadeeth books?

    format_quote Originally Posted by Banu_Hashim View Post
    Hadeeth in Islam, serves the purpose of padding out Islam as a complete way of life, which it is. In the Qur'an it says to pray, fast, go for hajj etc. but exactly how to do that, we can only derive from the hadeeth. By doing so, we are deriving rulings essentially from these hadeeth. Scholars of the four major schools of thought, have spent their entire lives deriving rulings. A hadeeth can be interpreted several ways, one way may be correct, and the other may be incorrect.

    If you want to do an Alim course for at least 6 years to become a basic Alim, and then subsequently study for a number of years specialising in hadeeth, then be my guest. You can then order all the hadith books available and interpret them yourself.

    But, if not, then the next best thing is to stick to school of thought e.g. Hanifi, because Imam Abu Hanifa and his students, and the other Imams and their students have done the work, and derived the correct intepretations.

    There are several hadeeth, that concentrate on morals and characters that you find in the hadeeth books in most homes. So, I'm not saying don't buy the books. On the contrary, buy them and read the hadeeths. We have several hadith books, including the summarised version of Sahih Al-Bukhari. But, don't be surprised if you don't understand all of them. And there are many many books of hadith, not just the Sahih Al-Bukhari and Muslim.

    Jazakallah Khair for the informative response. I have Saheeh Bukhari in my laptop which I downloaded from the internet but I always doubt the authencity og everything that I get on the net especially related to Islam because there are some Jews who run Islamic sites and misquote the Qur'an and the Hadeeth. Sometimes I don't even understand some Hadeeth and I agree that they require commentary but still whatever can be understood should be followed and wherever we fall into doubt then we can go for an aalim.
    Why doesn't every Muslim home have the Hadeeth books?

    If Allah helps you, none can overcome you; and if He forsakes you, who is there after Him that can help you? And in Allah (Alone) let believers put their trust.
    Surah Ale Imran : 160

    It was narrated that Anas ibn Maalik (may Allaah be pleased with him) said:
    The Prophet (blessings and peace of Allaah be upon him) climbed up Uhud, accompanied by Abu Bakr, ‘Umar and ‘Uthmaan, and the mountain shook with them. He struck it with his foot and said: “Stand firm, O Uhud, for there is no one on you but a Prophet or a Siddeeq or two martyrs.”
    Narrated by al-Bukhaari (3483)

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    Re: Why doesn't every Muslim home have the Hadeeth books?

    Thank you people for the usefull links
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    Re: Why doesn't every Muslim home have the Hadeeth books?

    The important boosk have been translated into englush n other languages.

    Even if all of them havent been , which is not true check dar us salam website they have ALL the hadith books translated , I mean if if they dont have them all , Have we read Bukhari n muslim??? why are we waiting for all of them to be translated? why cant we benefit from the "IMPORTANT" n "AUTHENTIC" one that have been translated, I wish there were translations of the classifications of al albani, the daeef n sahih n other books.


    Nice thread may Allah reward you ,

    Its sad how hadith has been almost ignored and the little bit of interpretation of hadith that we do take from those who we follow in our deen at times is not the correct one, ratjher it is twisted n turned to reach the desired comclusion.

    Only if we truly held on to the Quran and AUTHENTIC hadith , n i say it again AUTHENTIC hadeeth , we would InshahAllah be of those who are on the path and on the way of the Prophet n the Sahaba n the sect that will enter paradise from the 73 mentioned, Rest no one is guranteed , every sect cant be right , yes every one claims to follow the quran and hadeeth but are they truthful?? the only way to find that out is by taking everybodys statement and presenting it on The Quran and Sunnah and weighing it in the scales of Quran n sunnah , take the creed of any sect out there weigh it in the scale of Quran n sunnah see if it is according to it n if it is not leave it.

    Only if we had evena little knowledge of hadith n i mean authentic hadith then half of the sects would just disappear coz their ways n creed would contradict with the authentic statemets of the Prophet Sala lahu alihi wa sallam.

    The importantce of hadeeth cannever be stressed enough , the authentic hadith diffrentiates between the truth and the Batil.

    Its amazing how some people when given the authentic statements n hadith of the prophet leave it and dont apply it and all they have to say is that" Our Madhab say so and so , our sheikh , our imam sees so and so , Come onnn?? This is the Hadith and its authentic , Peopel simply leave hundreds and hadiths just coz the imam sees diffrently and By Allah the Imams lived and died searching for knowledge and adhereing o the Sunnah and ordered us to follow the sunnah and hadith and to leave their statement if a hadith contradits it, but we have become so numb that it doe snot matter to us any more , Allah Ul Musta'an, May Allah guide us all to the Quran and authetic sunah and make us from those that follow The quran and sunnah and DO NOT give preceedence to the statemnet of any one against the statements of the beloved Prophet sala lahu alihi wa salam.

    Hadith is where we get the Sunnah from , Hadith is sunnah n sunnah is hadith .

    Here is something beautiful by Imam Ahmed Ibn Hnabal , The protector of the Sunnah.
    The Foundations of the Sunnah
    By the Imaam of Ahlus-Sunnah, the great Scholar of Hadeeth
    & Fiqh, the Subduer of Innovations
    Imaam Ahmad Bin Hanbal
    Died 241 after the Hijrah (Rahimahullaah).

    The Fundamental Principles of the Sunnah with us are:

    1.Holding fast to what the Companions of the Messenger of Allaah (salallalaahu alayi wa sallam) were upon.

    2.Taking them (and their way) as a model to be followed.

    3.The abandonment of innovations, and every innovation is a misguidance.

    4.The abandonment of controversies.

    5.The abandonment of sitting with the people of Ahwaa (desires).

    6.And the abandonment of quarelling, argumentation and controversy in the religion.

    7.And the Sunnah with us are the aathar (narrations) of the Messenger of Allaah (salallalaahu alayi wa sallam).

    8.And the Sunnah explains and clarifies the Quraan.

    9.It is the guide to the Quraan (containing evidences and indications as to its meanings and correct interpretations).

    10.There is no analogical reasoning in the Sunnah and examples or likenesses are not to be made for it.

    11.Nor is it grasped and comprehended by the intellects or the desires.

    12.Rather it (consists of) following (and depending upon) it and abandoning the hawaa (desire).

    13.It is from the binding and necessary Sunnah, (the Sunnah) which whoever leaves a single matter from it, has not accepted it (in its totality), has not believed in it and is not from its people:

    14.To have faith in the Qadar (the Divine Pre-decree), both its good and its evil.

    15.To affirm the ahaadeeth related to it and have faith in them. It is not to be said, “Why?” or “How?” It is (but) attestation (to the truthfulness of such ahaadeeth) and having faith in them.

    Notes: The term Sunnah here refers to the principles and foundations of the correct Islamic aqeedah (belief) and manhaj (methodology), since the Salaf would apply this term to matters of aqeedah ans manhaj- as can be seen from their books and writings, for example:

    (i) Kitaabus-Sunnah of Imaam Ahmad (d. 241H)
    (ii) Sharhus-Sunnah of al-Babahaaree (d. 329H) (and other great books/ writings).

    The term "Sunnah" was employed in this context to differentiate between those matters of aqeedah and manhaj that the Salaf were upon from those matters which were innovated by the deviant and misguided sects.

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    Re: Why doesn't every Muslim home have the Hadeeth books?

    May i ask why Y A NABI (PBUH) IS FILTERED?

    IS THERE SOMETHING WRONG WITH SAYING Y A NABI (PBUH)?!

    Reason i ask, Posted a link but the words Y A NABI (PBUH) WERE filtered!
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    Re: Why doesn't every Muslim home have the Hadeeth books?

    lets see , a person say Ya Allah n another Say Ya Nabi... can they be equal..??

    Ya nabi is Calling , Asking , Supplicating, Invocating , All of which should be only for Allah

    Give one proof that the Sahaba , the companions said ya nabi after He sala lahu alihi wa sallam passed away.

    Saying Ya nabi is joining the nabi in worship with Allah, Coz only Allah has the right to be called , n asked .

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    Re: Why doesn't every Muslim home have the Hadeeth books?

    I know that some Hadeeth are hard to understand but not all. I'm not saying that any of the 4 Schools of thought are wrong but still they've created divisions among Muslims all around the world. Just a few days ago, I saw a thread in the Advice & Support section where a sister who was a Maliki was asking if she could marry a Hanafi and both the bride and the groom were trying to influence each other to take up their respective madhhab. Even the first Caliph Hadhrat Abu Bakr Siddiq (may Allah be pleased with him) was concerned about divisions being formed in Islam till his last breath.

    And we mostly differ when it comes to Salaah, whereas Rasoolullah (Sallallahu Alayhi Wasallam) said "Pray as you've seen me pray" and Alhamdulillah the Hadeeth do contain even the minute details of how our beloved Rasoolullah (Sallallahu Alayhi Wasallam) prayed. Sometimes I get really worried about what I'm doing at that point of time is anyway appropriate or not and there's always the fear of falling into any kind of biddah (iinovations). If I have a doubt, I run through the hundreds of pages of IslamQA.com to find anything similar to my situation.

    Since the day I started practising Islam, I've thought of buying the 6 books but recently the observations I made scared me to go ahead with the plan. I still ask all of you. Do you think it would be right if I buy those books and refer to the scholars whenever I'm in doubt and would you buy it as well?
    Last edited by Ali_008; 06-26-2009 at 05:19 PM.
    Why doesn't every Muslim home have the Hadeeth books?

    If Allah helps you, none can overcome you; and if He forsakes you, who is there after Him that can help you? And in Allah (Alone) let believers put their trust.
    Surah Ale Imran : 160

    It was narrated that Anas ibn Maalik (may Allaah be pleased with him) said:
    The Prophet (blessings and peace of Allaah be upon him) climbed up Uhud, accompanied by Abu Bakr, ‘Umar and ‘Uthmaan, and the mountain shook with them. He struck it with his foot and said: “Stand firm, O Uhud, for there is no one on you but a Prophet or a Siddeeq or two martyrs.”
    Narrated by al-Bukhaari (3483)

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    Re: Why doesn't every Muslim home have the Hadeeth books?


    format_quote Originally Posted by Banu_Hashim View Post
    Hadeeth in Islam, serves the purpose of padding out Islam as a complete way of life, which it is. In the Qur'an it says to pray, fast, go for hajj etc. but exactly how to do that, we can only derive from the hadeeth. By doing so, we are deriving rulings essentially from these hadeeth. Scholars of the four major schools of thought, have spent their entire lives deriving rulings. A hadeeth can be interpreted several ways, one way may be correct, and the other may be incorrect.

    If you want to do an Alim course for at least 6 years to become a basic Alim, and then subsequently study for a number of years specialising in hadeeth, then be my guest. You can then order all the hadith books available and interpret them yourself.

    But, if not, then the next best thing is to stick to school of thought e.g. Hanifi, because Imam Abu Hanifa and his students, and the other Imams and their students have done the work, and derived the correct intepretations.

    There are several hadeeth, that concentrate on morals and characters that you find in the hadeeth books in most homes. So, I'm not saying don't buy the books. On the contrary, buy them and read the hadeeths. We have several hadith books, including the summarised version of Sahih Al-Bukhari. But, don't be surprised if you don't understand all of them. And there are many many books of hadith, not just the Sahih Al-Bukhari and Muslim.
    MashaAllah, excellent reply. Just what I wanted to say.
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    I know that some Hadeeth are hard to understand but not all. I'm not saying that any of the 4 Schools of thought are wrong but still they've created divisions among Muslims all around the world. Just a few days ago, I saw a thread in the Advice & Support section where a sister who was a Maliki was asking if she could marry a Hanafi and both the bride and the groom were trying to influence each other to take up their respective madhhab. Even the first Caliph Hadhrat Abu Bakr Siddiq (may Allah be pleased with him) was concerned about divisions being formed in Islam till his last breath.

    And we mostly differ when it comes to Salaah, whereas Rasoolullah (Sallallahu Alayhi Wasallam) said "Pray as you've seen me pray" and Alhamdulillah the Hadeeth do contain even the minute details of how our beloved Rasoolullah (Sallallahu Alayhi Wasallam) prayed. Sometimes I get really worried about what I'm doing at that point of time is anyway appropriate or not and there's always the fear of falling into any kind of biddah (iinovations). If I have a doubt, I run through the hundreds of pages of IslamQA.com to find anything similar to my situation.

    Since the day I started practising Islam, I've thought of buying the 6 books but recently the observations I made scared me to go ahead with the plan. I still ask all of you. Do you think it would be right if I buy those books and refer to the scholars whenever I'm in doubt and would you buy it as well?
    The different schools of thoughts are not actually divisions, since they all support each other. None says the other is wrong. This type of difference in interpretation was there since the time of Sahabah and even during the time of our Prophet Sallallahu 'Alaihi waSallam. This topic is discussed many times, you can search it.

    As for buying the books of Hadeeth, I would say it's better to buy the classical books (6 authentic ones) only if you are becoming an 'Alim or studying the sciences of Hadeeth. These books contain all types of Ahadeeth and are usually used to derive a ruling.
    The books like Riyadhus-Saliheen, Muntakhab Ahadeeth, and other books on fazail are more widely spread and recommended to be read by all because these deal with virtues of performing certain actions and not used for deriving the rulings etc. These Ahadeeth are only used to exhort us to perform the deeds, and are not used to show us how to perform the actions. For the latter case, we need expert advice from 'ulama, people who have spent years learning the Quran and Hadeeth.

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    Re: Why doesn't every Muslim home have the Hadeeth books?

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    i think its a very good point bro, however not every muslim has enough knowledge to benefit and understand ahadith in their context, how to deal with apparent contradictions, the different levels and grades of hadith which is why people take out time to study the great sciences of hadith (and being in the main six books doesnt mean we can just pick it up and understand) on the other hand each ayat of quran is of the same degree which is called tawatur....(i mean why dont we have the british law book in our homes its similar to be able to benefit from it we would require to have studied some law.)
    oh yeah plus the recital of the quran is a form of worship unlike recital of most of the ahadith.
    however this doesnt mean that it we cant do anything infact we can start studying ahadith from local scholars and try to benefit from these great books.
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    Re: Why doesn't every Muslim home have the Hadeeth books?

    don't get anything written after Al Bukhari, they took what Al Bukhari discarded and made it strong by weakening/discarding his criteria for acceptance.

    the main reason for division is accepting weak/false narrations, and most modern scholars of hadeeth-such as al albani-are making it even worse.

    also be careful of dubbing a hadeeth 'authentic' or 'saheeh', we don't know for sure, and the term is not clearly defined to begin with. as it were, the science of hadeeth needs a revival, a return to the strong criteria of Al Bukhari and those before him-suh as Imam Malik-. not that there weren't good scholars after him, but they are so few to be counted on the fingers.
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    Re: Why doesn't every Muslim home have the Hadeeth books?

    salaam

    A good place to start on Hadith is Imam Nawwis 40 hadiths. Preety basic buts its preety good - with commmentry.

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