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    Question What would you do?

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    Today i had a Critical Thinking lesson and was asked this question that i want to share with you.


    What would you do if....

    There was a normal guy or lady, that has the cure for cancer in his/her blood but if you take the blood out, the person will die straight way. (There is no age at this moment...its up to you how old the person old)

    1)Would you kill this person for the cure for others

    or
    2)Would let him live?

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    Re: What would you do?

    Assalam Alykium,

    Well, islamically, we would leave it till it goes old or whatever. Because when he has something up during his life time like death. We can't control death. Only Allah does.

    And my opinion, i d probably leave it cos its too risky, Age dosent matter to me.
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    Re: What would you do?

    Wow that is a tough one.

    I guess I would let him live. I personally cannot kill anyone. I rather let him live, then to spend all my life feeling guilty that I killed someone.
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    Re: What would you do?

    True but wat abut all those thousands of people suffering from cancer?

    dont they need a chance 2 be cured?
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    Re: What would you do?

    True but wat abut all those thousands of people suffering from cancer?

    dont they need a chance 2 be cured?
    I dunno. maybe they were destined to?
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    Re: What would you do?

    Can't we keep supplying more blood to the person whose blood we are taking?

    Btw, I don't think this can happen in reality. Allah SubHanahu waTa'ala will not keep the cure for a certain disease in the blood of some other human. There would surely be alternates for that.
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    Re: What would you do?

    But it was our destiny that we acknowledge this knowledge nd supposed to do something?
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    Re: What would you do?

    format_quote Originally Posted by AabiruSabeel View Post
    Can't we keep supplying more blood to the person whose blood we are taking?

    Btw, I don't think this can happen in reality. Allah SubHanahu waTa'ala will not keep the cure for a certain disease in the blood of some other human. There would surely be alternates for that.
    This is a example of a moral/ethnical dilemma that we had to argue 2day. But if we take the blood out of the person, he/she will die quickly
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    Re: What would you do?

    u cannot kill him, but if he came to Islam he could choose to give his blood straight after death
    What would you do?

    "O ye who belive! Endure, outdo all others in endurance, be ready, and observe your duty to Allah, in order that you may succeed"
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    Re: What would you do?

    But it was our destiny that we acknowledge this knowledge nd supposed to do something?
    Yeah, however to do something about it is destined onto the "destiny" time line.

    say, if a person you stated above the first post about cancer, he is destined to have cancer, to do something can be 2 destiny like, leave it till he die or take out the blood to cure him.

    I dunno. just my view on it. lol.
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    Re: What would you do?

    I think the q is faulty. we can and have and continue to take out people's blood and re-infuse them without inducing death.
    search the net for 'apheresis'--

    The Question is, what is it in his blood that is a 'cure for cancer' cancers work in different ways, so is this a cure-all?
    if there is a specific protein in his body then it can be selected out singularly without causing death using protein tomography and what nots..

    If this were a topic of discussion in class, I'd probably tell the prof. how incredibly wasteful such a topic is, simply based on our technologies and medical ethics there is no room for such vacuous thoughts as they have no real life basis..

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    Re: What would you do?

    2) let him live

    you havent taken out the blood yet so you obviously dont know for 100% sure that his blood will cure ...and to kill the person would be murder.
    What would you do?

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    Re: What would you do?

    format_quote Originally Posted by Gossamer skye View Post
    I think the q is faulty. we can and have and continue to take out people's blood and re-infuse them without inducing death.
    search the net for 'apheresis'--

    The Question is, what is it in his blood that is a 'cure for cancer' cancers work in different ways, so is this a cure-all?

    its the full cure for the cancer. it wil kill every cell that a person has but if you dont tke it out, thousands of people will die of cancer. This is one in a lifetime opportunity to destroy cancer.
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    Re: What would you do?

    its the full cure for the cancer. it wil kill every cell that a person has but if you dont tke it out, thousands of people will die of cancer. This is one in a lifetime opportunity to destroy cancer.
    How is it supposed to mean if this is one in a life time opportunity if a doctor takes the blood out and have no time to insert the new cure and the patient dies already before it is inserted.
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    Re: What would you do?

    Greetings and peace be with you sister_islam; You certainly pose an interesting dilemma.

    Supposing you were that person and the doctor said your blood could cure cancer, but you would die, what would you do? Would you liked to be asked and given the chance to choose your own destiny?

    There are some people who would sacrifice themselves for others, would that be suicide or martyrdom.

    I am not totally sure how this would be doing God’s will. We all have to die at some point, and I am not entirely sure if an extra twenty or thirty years life for a cancer sufferer would help their journey into heaven.

    After all; life on this earth is all about achieving salvation.

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    Re: What would you do?

    format_quote Originally Posted by sister_islam View Post
    its the full cure for the cancer. it wil kill every cell that a person has but if you dont tke it out, thousands of people will die of cancer. This is one in a lifetime opportunity to destroy cancer.

    The question is by way of fantasy, it is illogical.. it defies what we know about cancer, doesn't follow a proper scientific stance, since I have said that we can in fact take people's blood out, apheresis, plasma exchange, dialysis, we use extracorporeal blood purification technique designed for the removal of large molecular weight substances from the plasma not to mention that it defies medical ethics...

    your teacher needs to break down the components of this question .. what is it about this fellow's blood that is so special? we have millions of things in our blood, fact is by virtue of blood typing alone, you can't have a cure all given all the different blood types we are. and secondly blood is comprised of many components, thus he needs to identify that 'magical component' in this fellow's blood and as stated above we have millions of ways of extracting it without inducing the death of a person.

    I would simply refuse an answer based on these alone, but I'd think it a grievous waste of time to dwell on very ambiguous ethical questions that have no basis in real life, based on what we know of science and the human body!

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    Re: What would you do?

    format_quote Originally Posted by Catalzzy View Post

    How is it supposed to mean if this is one in a life time opportunity if a doctor takes the blood out and have no time to insert the new cure and the patient dies already before it is inserted.
    No what im saying this person who has the cure, that has the cells, would die...

    thats the Scenario...sorry havnt got much infor
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    Re: What would you do?

    These are the kind of ethical dilemmas medicine has to deal with every day.

    If the moral decision is supposed to be for 'the greater good', then paying one life for the sake of many doesn't seem so much of a sacrifice, does it?
    However, that looks very different from the perspective of the person who holds the cure, and his family and loved ones ...

    Those a tough decisions to make - and perhaps there is no right or wrong ...
    What would you do?

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    Re: What would you do?

    of course.

    oops.

    i v been over thinking. haha

    Yeah, i know its a scenario.
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    Re: What would you do?

    Allah says if you save the life of one man it is as though you savd mankind, killing under any circumsances is wrong, if God is gonna give cure for cancer it would be forthright and not subject to classroom ethics
    What would you do?

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