good idea, but i think it should be segregated? and also, how do we know if one another has memorized? recordings?or like a "home work sheet" system?
Yes, insha'Allaah 
No, (why not?) 
“The people of Qur’an, they are the people of Allaah and His specialties.”
[Ahmad, Nisaa’ee, Ibn Maajah]
If LI were to launch a group Qur'an memorization project where forum members would be able to memorize the Qur'an with each other - would YOU take part?
-Quick outline-
**Overseen and moderated by the Huffadh on the forum
- Planned in 3 groups -
* Level 1 - Juz 'Amma;
* Level 2 - Juz Tabarak;
* Level 3 - Surah chosen by participants in this level.**
More Details to come insha'Allaah...
For now - please answer the poll and if you have any ideas etc - let us know!
“Indeed, Allaah will honor people (i.e., in this world and the Hereafter) by this Book, and He will debase others by it.”
[Muslim]
Don't YOU want to be of those whom Allaah will honor by the Qur'an?
good idea, but i think it should be segregated? and also, how do we know if one another has memorized? recordings?
A homework sheet is a good idea. Everyone can keep log on their own.format_quote Originally Posted by Umm ul-Shaheed
good idea, but i think it should be segregated? and also, how do we know if one another has memorized? recordings?
And I think it's self paced program, or a little each day... I think he's asking for ideas and suggestions right now. It's a good project though!
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I would love to insh'Allah. I am waiting for the details insh'Allah.
So many people want to take part, but I really don't think this is going to work. To memorise the Qur'an, one needs to have a proper teacher there, who can teach his the pronounciation of the arabic lettering correctly. Also, everyone has different things to do at different times, and their memorising speed may be different to others. Some peoples' mind-state might go into depression halfway through (its possible, believe me).
Personally, with regards to memorising the Qur'an, I have learnt that you should set yourself a goal, and you yourself have to motivate yourself to reach and acheive that goal. You know yourself better, and I think its better if we look at things realistically, rather than agreeing with it, and then the whole thing falling apart in a couple of weeks.
Allahu Aalim, this might work, but personally I don't think it will, as everyone has their own speed and time and memorization time period.
I'm not saying that I won't memorise it, I'm saying I won't take part memorising it with the forum.
Therefore I have voted: No, (why not?)
That may be a point the organizers need to look at....some people have work or are busy with stuff and some times are normal for others and to early for others...but then again they are still planning/thinking it out,right?
Mashaa'Allaah it's a good idea. There is alot of thinking to be done though. Who will run it? Those who do run it, what do they need to know, be haafidh(a)? Know ahkaam tajweed? How will things be monitered? How many people per teacher to monitor? How often do you have a class meeting? and so forth...It is best to cover all angles before a launch.
As TIA mentioned, you really do need a teacher. Perhaps it would be good to start off with something like Makhaarij and Sifaat of huruf then go with hifdh. It'll be hard to do hifdh if you don't atleast know that much. Unless you're good at imitating. Most children don't study ahkaam tajweed yet are very good Mashaa'Allaah and it is because they would imitate the recitor or their teacher.
Inshaa'Allaah it goes well!
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im in a hurry so i dont know if the follwoing has been mentioned b4:
pls keep in mind that this stuff has been attempted b4 and so many tmes ve seen t fail cos of lac of participation/motivation/consistancy...so f you start make sure it is continuious and consistent!!---cant emphasis that enough
Yes to add on to the Sisters post: We should have a signip sheet that states a minimum time you have to stay. We could have different teachers at different times like UK members- one teacher,USA & Canada members-one teacher,Other countries-one teacher and so forth. We need a lot more participation from members and should have at least 10-25 comments/suggestions on this idea.
It will work - insha'Allaah - because it has worked elsewhere (check AlMaghrib forums to get an idea). Success is from Allaah, for us is to work.format_quote Originally Posted by T.I.ASo many people want to take part, but I really don't think this is going to work. To memorise the Qur'an, one needs to have a proper teacher there, who can teach his the pronounciation of the arabic lettering correctly. Also, everyone has different things to do at different times, and their memorising speed may be different to others. Some peoples' mind-state might go into depression halfway through (its possible, believe me).
Personally, with regards to memorising the Qur'an, I have learnt that you should set yourself a goal, and you yourself have to motivate yourself to reach and acheive that goal. You know yourself better, and I think its better if we look at things realistically, rather than agreeing with it, and then the whole thing falling apart in a couple of weeks.
Allahu Aalim, this might work, but personally I don't think it will, as everyone has their own speed and time and memorization time period.
I'm not saying that I won't memorise it, I'm saying I won't take part memorising it with the forum.
Therefore I have voted: No, (why not?)
In regards to a teacher, participants can, once completed go and recite to a local imaam. During, we are still working on ways memorization can be checked.
As per people's personal lives getting in the way, that's valid too. However, I'm sure people who commit to this because they want to can take out 30 minutes a day to memorize 2-3 ayaat.
The point of this isn't to make anyone a hafidh or get them to do full-time hifdh memorizing one or 2 pages a day - the mindset, medium for that isn't a forum. Rather, this is aimed primarily for those that cannot do full time hifdh but still want to have a relationship with the Quran, who want to recite something new in Salah besides the same few surahs they've been reciting all their years, etc - but can only take the time out to memorize a couple of ayat per day.
A lot of us spend a lot of time here engaging in discussions, surfing the internet etc, if just 30 minutes of that time were taken and invested in this, the potential for success is very high, bi'idhnillah.
format_quote Originally Posted by Silver Pearl
Mashaa'Allaah it's a good idea. There is alot of thinking to be done though. Who will run it? Those who do run it, what do they need to know, be haafidh(a)? Know ahkaam tajweed? How will things be monitered? How many people per teacher to monitor? How often do you have a class meeting? and so forth...It is best to cover all angles before a launch.
As TIA mentioned, you really do need a teacher. Perhaps it would be good to start off with something like Makhaarij and Sifaat of huruf then go with hifdh. It'll be hard to do hifdh if you don't atleast know that much. Unless you're good at imitating. Most children don't study ahkaam tajweed yet are very good Mashaa'Allaah and it is because they would imitate the recitor or their teacher.
Inshaa'Allaah it goes well!
Details will come insha'Allaah. We're still in the planning stage and just want to get an idea of how many people will take part and get any ideas/etc that we may have not thought of.
You have a very valid point on being able to recite satisfactory. We will address it, Insha'Allaah. Again, this isn't aimed at turning the participants into Huffadh. It's to help them form and keep a relationship with the Qur'an.
That clears my doubt. I need to buy a microphone insh'Allah.
AsSalamOAlaikum WaRehmatuAllah WaBarkatuhu
SubhaanAllah!!! Ive only read the opening post, and i am simply in.
I dont know if or how it would work. I dont if it would succeed or fail....
All i know is that i have the motivation to learn. And i am learning 2-3 ayaats a day currently, so inshaAllah it can only benefit me.
Everyone should join in. Brothers and sisters show your support. It is only for your benefit. It is something that you can take to your grave. InshaAllah...
FiAmaaniAllah
Mashaa'Allaah, you (and those organising it) seem to have things under control, Inshaa'Allaah it will work!
How about a muraja'ah level? Hifdh is sa7lan in comparison to revision, anyone memorising or has memorised can vouch for that I think lol.
And even if does fail,Allah still sees your intention and you get the deed insh'Allah. Will this be done anonymously?
Fail? Astaghfirullah! There is no fail in this.format_quote Originally Posted by 'Abd-al Hakim
And even if does fail,Allah still sees your intention and you get the deed insh'Allah. Will this be done anonymously?
Though, there are a few questions I have:
- Would it be a group pace or self paced? Would anyone be able to join anytime? I suppose you're just starting, and evaluating the participation rates. Though, I look forward to the program, Insha'Allah!
I meant if the whole concept fails. Apologizes if I hurt anyone by saying that. Are those questions directed at me brother eHafiz?I will feel honoured if you want my opinions/answers.
Asalamu Alaykum,
A big Fat Defoformat_quote Originally Posted by 'Abd al-Rahman
Am defo In, Looking forward to it.
Am getting all excited now, I hope it works otherwise
These are suggestions that they are taking in to evaluate if they should start it or not. I wouldnt get my hopes high until a few more details are revealed insh'Allah. Not saying this to discourage anyone but just reminding.
heavy idea, also i think its best to like memorize first like memorize memorize, and you can always listen to how the letters are recited by different recitors, but memorize first and then concentrate on fixing up what you learnt like makhaarij and the idghaam and other rules of recitation but the main thing should be the memorisation then pap pap
cause the hadiths ....
whoever recites fluently gets reward and whoever recites with difficulty gets double rewards
sooo no excuses, everyone should get in and try to memorize as much as they can.
Jaa-Ro-Nee-Mo!!!SMILE
format_quote Originally Posted by Silver Pearl
Mashaa'Allaah, you (and those organising it) seem to have things under control, Inshaa'Allaah it will work!
How about a muraja'ah level? Hifdh is sa7lan in comparison to revision, anyone memorising or has memorised can vouch for that I think lol.
That's a pretty awesome idea..though I'm not sure how it can be implemented? Any ideas?
What do you mean by anonymously?format_quote Originally Posted by 'Abd-al Hakim
And even if does fail,Allah still sees your intention and you get the deed insh'Allah. Will this be done anonymously?
Memorization is group paced, because if it was self paced there would be no point in having a group memorization. However, we will make sure the time is suitable for everyone, more or less.format_quote Originally Posted by eHafizFail? Astaghfirullah! There is no fail in this.
Though, there are a few questions I have:
- Would it be a group pace or self paced? Would anyone be able to join anytime? I suppose you're just starting, and evaluating the participation rates. Though, I look forward to the program, Insha'Allah!
After it 'officially' kicks off, it will be documented on the forums itself, so anyone wanting to join and start memorizing after can simply stick to how the group did it and can catch up.
It might not be making sense (the above) but insha'Allaah it will in due time!
Make lots of dua'!format_quote Originally Posted by LuloahAsalamu Alaykum,
A big Fat Defo
Am defo In, Looking forward to it.
Am getting all excited now, I hope it works otherwise
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