What is the concept of soul in Islam. If you can be a good muslim as well BEING A VEGETARIAN, why not make a compassionate choice?
Look at the video below and tell me where can we find love and compasion and a humane behaviour? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VIjanhKqVC4
It is interesting to note that we ALL have duty to show compassion towards animals. If you can be a better muslim by following a vegetarian diet which improves your health and does a lot good for our environment where we live, then why not follow the greener path?
I would like to know if there are any muslims ,who also are Vegans or Vegetarians?
What about the concept of soul in living creature. If you can be a good muslim as well BEING A VEGETARIAN, why not make a compassionate choice?
Look at the video below and tell me is this a humane behaviour?
I don't even eat meat that much...in fact I prefer vegs.
I was looking at myself talking to myself and I realized this conversation...I was having with myself looking at myself was a conversation with myself that I needed to have with myself.
I couldn't imagine a diet without some sort of meat. It's not very healthy though is it, to have a diet completely void of meat. Maybe our doctor members can clarify.
‘Say: If the ocean were ink wherewith to write out the words of my Lord, sooner would the ocean be exhausted, even if We added another ocean like it.’~Al Qu'raan (18:109)
I was looking at myself talking to myself and I realized this conversation...I was having with myself looking at myself was a conversation with myself that I needed to have with myself.
If you say you are designed to eat meat, would you be able to kill for your own food? Just because you dont SEE how the animals are slaughtered for what you get on your plate, doesnt mean that you can support the brutal slaughter in the name of religion because consuming it contributed same as killing it.
And human teeth are NOT that of carnivores.
My curiousity was about Islam, where there is talk on peace and compassion, what about concept of soul in animals. How can anyone justify the cold blooded murder in name of food?
I found on some interesting posts where it was mentioned that you can be a very good muslim by being VEGETARIAN, in fact, a better one. Then why people dont consider this greener path, which is better for environment as well as for all of us in general?
By following a compassionate diet regime, would that not lead you closer to God?
Oh please. When Allah has ALLOWED something for you, why would you go about trying to stop it?!
This is a stupid discussion. It's like saying, "I'll drink wine because I want to, even though Allah has forbidden it, but I won't eat meat, even though Allah has allowed it."
I've seen these vegetarians (mostly from sects called brahamans and maarwadis) debating Islam's approval of meat a million times.
Firstly, I'd like to give you an example by which non-vegetarianism will just get encouraged (which I had heard in a talk once). You see, animals multiply more rapidly than humans. We keep seeing or hearing news about some unknown animal becoming endangered or having become completely extinct but that news doesn't even come close to animals that are eaten like Hens, Goats, Camels, Ducks and Turkeys. Allah has given us permission to eat meat with his own wisdom. Just imagine, at the rate that these animals multiply, and everybody in the world was a vegetarian then it'd be a world of those animals and not humans. In fact, if it was that way, at this moment some species of those animals would have been discussing whether to eat humans or not.
Its Allah (Subhaanahu Wa Taala)'s limitless mercy that he gave us such source of nutrition and keeps them in equilibrium. To keep the human-animal balance in nature, they have to be consumed or else you know it what could have happened.
I have another point to put forward, which I'll do through a video, Inshallah. Wait for my next post
If Allah helps you, none can overcome you; and if He forsakes you, who is there after Him that can help you? And in Allah (Alone) let believers put their trust.
Surah Ale Imran : 160
It was narrated that Anas ibn Maalik (may Allaah be pleased with him) said:
The Prophet (blessings and peace of Allaah be upon him) climbed up Uhud, accompanied by Abu Bakr, ‘Umar and ‘Uthmaan, and the mountain shook with them. He struck it with his foot and said: “Stand firm, O Uhud, for there is no one on you but a Prophet or a Siddeeq or two martyrs.”
Narrated by al-Bukhaari (3483)
Allah (Subhaanahu Wa Taala) does not inspire seeking forgiveness in a slave whom he wishes to punish.
I've seen these vegetarians (mostly from sects called brahamans and maarwadis) debating Islam's approval of meat a million times.
Firstly, I'd like to give you an example by which non-vegetarianism will just get encouraged (which I had heard in a talk once). You see, animals multiply more rapidly than humans. We keep seeing or hearing news about some unknown animal becoming endangered or having become completely extinct but that news doesn't even come close to animals that are eaten like Hens, Goats, Camels, Ducks and Turkeys. Allah has given us permission to eat meat with his own wisdom. Just imagine, at the rate that these animals multiply, and everybody in the world was a vegetarian then it'd be a world of those animals and not humans. In fact, if it was that way, at this moment some species of those animals would have been discussing whether to eat humans or not.
Its Allah (Subhaanahu Wa Taala)'s limitless mercy that he gave us such source of nutrition and keeps them in equilibrium. To keep the human-animal balance in nature, they have to be consumed or else you know it what could have happened.
I have another point to put forward, which I'll do through a video, Inshallah. Wait for my next post
Animals are raised ARTIFICIALLY for food industry. IN nature they dont grow and multiply like this, they are bred through AS and hormonal injections and bred in hardh living conditions. Birds live in cramped places where they cannot even roam about freely or even fly.
If you had to kill for your own food would you do it , in NATURE according to your species balance argument, would you be actively participating by "preying" on animal that you ought to eat? Or does it come to your plate, without you having to worry how it was brutally slaughtered by someone else!
Do you think all of this is permitted?
If you support the slaughter of animals in the name of Allah permitting it, then where is the concept of compassion for sentient beings?
And you speak on balance in nature. What balance will remain if we dont understand the ethical, health, and environmental impacts of these animal slaughter houses where animals are kept over-crowded and in inhumane conditions. And its already established that running animal slaughter houses is actually contributing to depetion of biodiversity due to great amount of deforestation,land degradation, and so on.
As for ritual slaughter, animals are fully conscious when their carotid arteries are cut. This is supposed to cause unconsciousness within seconds, but because of blood flow through the vertebral arteries in the back of the neck, some animals can remain conscious as they bleed for up to a minute..
As a muslim, if you have a CHOICE and can be a VEGETARIAN , would that not support for compassion living as recommended by God?
Animals are raised ARTIFICIALLY for food industry. IN nature they dont grow and multiply like this, they are bred through AS and hormonal injections and bred in hardh living conditions. Birds live in cramped places where they cannot even roam about freely or even fly.
If you had to kill for your own food would you do it , in NATURE according to your species balance argument, would you be actively participating by "preying" on animal that you ought to eat? Or does it come to your plate, without you having to worry how it was brutally slaughtered by someone else!
Do you think all of this is permitted?
If you support the slaughter of animals in the name of Allah permitting it, then where is the concept of compassion for sentient beings?
Brother, all these injections and hormones are recent inventions and discoveries. They weren't even there 10-20 years ago and still the population was same and the animals had the same capactity to multiply or rather more because these days many animals are dying because of strange new diseases as well.
I saw the video you posted. I completely agree that such behavior with animals should be condemned. And even the Qur'an supports it. Animals are to be slaughtered in a proper way. Any other kind of slaughter is forbidden as stated in the Quran in Surah Maida (Surah # 5), verse 3 :
Forbidden to you (for food) are: dead meat, blood, the flesh of swine, and that on which hath been invoked the name of other than Allah. that which hath been killed by strangling, or by a violent blow, or by a headlong fall, or by being gored to death; that which hath been (partly) eaten by a wild animal; unless ye are able to slaughter it (in due form); that which is sacrificed on stone (altars); (forbidden) also is the division (of meat) by raffling with arrows: that is impiety.
I haven't been able to find the video which I wanted to post.
Inshallah, I'll write it down and post.
If Allah helps you, none can overcome you; and if He forsakes you, who is there after Him that can help you? And in Allah (Alone) let believers put their trust.
Surah Ale Imran : 160
It was narrated that Anas ibn Maalik (may Allaah be pleased with him) said:
The Prophet (blessings and peace of Allaah be upon him) climbed up Uhud, accompanied by Abu Bakr, ‘Umar and ‘Uthmaan, and the mountain shook with them. He struck it with his foot and said: “Stand firm, O Uhud, for there is no one on you but a Prophet or a Siddeeq or two martyrs.”
Narrated by al-Bukhaari (3483)
Allah (Subhaanahu Wa Taala) does not inspire seeking forgiveness in a slave whom he wishes to punish.
In my family, we try to buy eco-friendly products inshaAllah. I really understand your points and do think they are valid and important.
I mean for example chickens usually have the most horrific conditions, it's really lots of chickens in one small place stuck together and forced to produce eggs and feeded to become fat, then killed. But those eco-friendly products promise the chickens were taken care of in an enviromental passable place for them and such.. What do you think about those kind of eco-friendly products?
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This is an Islamic Forum Vegetarian Soul, and your going to get an Islamic perspective.
It says in the Qur'an; "You who believe, fulfil your obligations. Livestock animals are lawful as food for you, with the exception of what is about to be announced to you. You are forbidden to kill game while you are on pilgrimage-God commands that He will." (5:1)
That's all there is to it.
‘Say: If the ocean were ink wherewith to write out the words of my Lord, sooner would the ocean be exhausted, even if We added another ocean like it.’~Al Qu'raan (18:109)
And you speak on balance in nature. What balance will remain if we dont understand the ethical, health, and environmental impacts of these animal slaughter houses where animals are kept over-crowded and in inhumane conditions. And its already established that running animal slaughter houses is actually contributing to depetion of biodiversity due to great amount of deforestation,land degradation, and so on.
As for ritual slaughter, animals are fully conscious when their carotid arteries are cut. This is supposed to cause unconsciousness within seconds, but because of blood flow through the vertebral arteries in the back of the neck, some animals can remain conscious as they bleed for up to a minute..
As a muslim, if you have a CHOICE and can be a VEGETARIAN , would that not support for compassion living as recommended by God?
Being a non-vegetarian isn't a compulsion in Islam. Its a person's wish to eat meat or not. A Muslim can be a good Muslim even by being a vegetarian. But Allah has given you a choice so I take the side of being a non-veggy because of the taste and nutrition it provides.
If Allah helps you, none can overcome you; and if He forsakes you, who is there after Him that can help you? And in Allah (Alone) let believers put their trust.
Surah Ale Imran : 160
It was narrated that Anas ibn Maalik (may Allaah be pleased with him) said:
The Prophet (blessings and peace of Allaah be upon him) climbed up Uhud, accompanied by Abu Bakr, ‘Umar and ‘Uthmaan, and the mountain shook with them. He struck it with his foot and said: “Stand firm, O Uhud, for there is no one on you but a Prophet or a Siddeeq or two martyrs.”
Narrated by al-Bukhaari (3483)
Allah (Subhaanahu Wa Taala) does not inspire seeking forgiveness in a slave whom he wishes to punish.
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