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    salaam

    How many muslims do you know in real life?? and what do you think of them??
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    Do you think the pious don't sin?

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    Re: To Non muslims

    I know a few, but they aren't all strict muslim's. But, they are very patient, with all my questions
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    Re: To Non muslims

    format_quote Originally Posted by mystical_moon View Post
    I know a few, but they aren't all strict muslim's. But, they are very patient, with all my questions
    right but what do you think of them as people - are they annoying, respectful, well mannered??
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    Do you think the pious don't sin?

    They merely:
    Veiled themselves and didn't flaunt it
    Sought forgiveness and didn't persist
    Took ownership of it and don't justify it
    And acted with excellence after they had erred - Ibn al-Qayyim
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    Re: To Non muslims

    Greetings,

    Most of the Muslims I have met have been students of mine, from Saudi, Syria, Jordan, Egypt, the UAE, Morocco and many other places that I've not remembered. I suppose there have been around a hundred over the years. It goes without saying that they are all male. I've never had a conversation with a Muslim female in person.

    I have also had several good friends who are Muslims, one of whom I shared a flat with for two years.

    The guy I shared a flat with is now a doctor and he's probably the most intelligent person I've ever met. He is very warm, humane and impossible not to like.

    The majority of the students I have taught have been easy enough to get along with, but sadly many of them have tended to be lazy and immature when compared with other students of the same age. There are exceptions, of course, but that is the general picture from my experience.

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    Re: To Non muslims

    format_quote Originally Posted by Zafran View Post
    salaam

    How many muslims do you know in real life?? and what do you think of them??
    One family I am very close to (the wife calls me her brother and I am a sort of sounding board advisor to her kids) has a mix.

    The mother is the best of people. She holds down 4 jobs (yes FOUR) in the morning she is out at 7 to work as an escort (no not that sort) for the council. She leaves that job at 10:30 and goes to the second where she is a cleaner, then she is a dinner lady then she has a whole half hour to eat until she is bak taking the disabled kids home. She leaves that job at 17:30 when she does the shopping on the way to job 4 as an office cleaner.

    Contrast that with her idle sod of a husband who never does a job himself if he can get someone else to do it, and who recently cut the hours on his job from 37 hours per week to 20 hours per week so he can get tax credits.....

    She has 4 kids 3 of who have university degrees and are doing well (although she wishes the daughter would get married) the 4th is a druggie who lives at home and has had over 40 jobs since he left school (at least those are the jobs he has used me as a referee for).

    They are people, some good, some duds.
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    Re: To Non muslims

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    Do you think the pious don't sin?

    They merely:
    Veiled themselves and didn't flaunt it
    Sought forgiveness and didn't persist
    Took ownership of it and don't justify it
    And acted with excellence after they had erred - Ibn al-Qayyim
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    Re: To Non muslims

    I voted No but I look forward to having the opportunity.
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    Re: To Non muslims

    I know plenty of muslims. They all live in Preston but there are no muslims in the town I live whatsoever. In fact, not even any blacks.
    I know different types of muslims. I know a "muslim" girl that keeps sleeping with guys from my workplace. There is another "muslim" guy that goes drinking every weekend, flirts with girls continuously and invites me to play football. He tells me he visits the mosque frequently. There is another "muslim" who seems to be quite strict. A virgin, very lazy but can take alot of stick from people.

    The guy I get on with most is the one that arranges the football matches. In my opinion, he's no muslim. Everything he does is haram but he integrates which I find very pleasing. I've played football with and against other muslims.
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    Re: To Non muslims

    Where I live, it's around like 85% Christian, 10% Atheist/Agnostic, 5% other. I am part of the 5%, we are a special club lol.
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    Re: To Non muslims

    format_quote Originally Posted by Clover View Post
    Where I live, it's around like 85% Christian, 10% Atheist/Agnostic, 5% other. I am part of the 5%, we are a special club lol.
    What do you think of the Christians?
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    Re: To Non muslims

    format_quote Originally Posted by Guestfellow View Post
    What do you think of the Christians?
    I don't generalize, if you want I can give examples of individual ones?
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    Re: To Non muslims

    format_quote Originally Posted by Clover View Post
    I don't generalize, if you want I can give examples of individual ones?
    Yeah sure.
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    Re: To Non muslims

    salaam

    come on there are more non muslims then that on this forum.

    Thanks for the others for replying - May Allah guide you.

    peace
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    Do you think the pious don't sin?

    They merely:
    Veiled themselves and didn't flaunt it
    Sought forgiveness and didn't persist
    Took ownership of it and don't justify it
    And acted with excellence after they had erred - Ibn al-Qayyim
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    Re: To Non muslims

    format_quote Originally Posted by Guestfellow View Post
    Yeah sure.
    Well, here:

    1. Their are some Christians here who look at it like this "Jesus is Right, everyone else is wrong, no matter what"

    2. Their are some Christians here who look at it, "I believen Jesus, but I do not believe I have to be perfect for him to go to Heaven, just a good person."

    3. Their are some Christians here who look at it, "Jesus is the only way, and all others should be ****ed."

    4. Then their are a few Christians here who look at it, "We all try to find truth, I found mine."
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    Voted yes, but not close friends. From school or work. They were nice and never had anyone outside normal ranges of behavior from anyone else.
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    Re: To Non muslims

    format_quote Originally Posted by czgibson View Post
    It goes without saying that they are all male. I've never had a conversation with a Muslim female in person.
    Hey,

    Is that because you teach at an all boys school?.. And never spoken to a muslim woman, ever, really? Wow, interesting.
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    Yes, a dear friend. A Bengali woman - a ray of pure sunshine. She moved away to marry. I miss her.
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    Are we including those who call themselves Muslims but act otherwise?
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    Greetings,
    format_quote Originally Posted by crayon View Post
    Hey,

    Is that because you teach at an all boys school?.. And never spoken to a muslim woman, ever, really? Wow, interesting.
    What I meant was I've never had a conversation wih a Muslim woman. I've said hello and made smalltalk in the supermarket, for instance, but I don't think that counts.

    All the schools I have taught at have been mixed sex; what tends to happen is that Muslim females get put into classes with female teachers. Outside of classes they tend to avoid males completely. I guess that means they're obeying their religion. (?)

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    What I meant was I've never had a conversation wih a Muslim woman. I've said hello and made smalltalk in the supermarket, for instance, but I don't think that counts.
    Ah okay, that is understandable. I thought you meant you had never spoken to one at all.

    All the schools I have taught at have been mixed sex; what tends to happen is that Muslim females get put into classes with female teachers. Outside of classes they tend to avoid males completely. I guess that means they're obeying their religion. (?)
    Is that something they request personally, or just some sort of recurring coincidence?
    And avoiding males completely is quite impossible, and not what Islam teaches- it teaches interacting on a purely professional and necessary basis, treating the opposite gender with politeness and respect during interaction. To completely shut yourself away from any male/female is unfeasible.

    Sorry for taking the thread a bit off topic, I was just curious.

    format_quote Originally Posted by Azy View Post
    Are we including those who call themselves Muslims but act otherwise?
    I guess we are- it's not our place to judge others; unless they have outright denounced Islam, than they are muslim, whatever sins they commit (in general)
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