When asking this question I'm looking specifically for the responses from those living in the UK,U.S, Australia etc. If an illegal invader decided to blitz your country, an invasion (Iraqi-style) took place by, say, the U.S, Russia, China would you attempt to fight for it if called upon?
I might if I stood for the principles of that country (i.e if it were a Muslim country and I believed in what I was fighting for) otherwise no, I'd go else where...home is where the heart and mind preside (and I take them with me every where)
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Yes. If the U.S. entered a war, I would join up, I plan too anyways.
his question is about expats who took residence in a country like the U.S, U.K or auss.
at least that is was my impression..
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Expats? Ex-Patriots? I'm kinda lost. I see, o well, sorry for intruding.format_quote Originally Posted by Gossamer skye
It's for those that were born there and the expats. This question is for everyoneformat_quote Originally Posted by Gossamer skye
thank you for expositing on your original post...
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I live in a country where I was born, but if I moved to UK, for example, to fry fries or work on buildng, and war aganst this state began, I would rather look for a good way to leave this country and go back to mine.format_quote Originally Posted by Blackpool
Salam,
I smiled a bit when thinking. I don't find Sweden worth fighting for.
Well if someone threatened my children I would like to think I would fight,but in the best interest of my children I may choose to move to another country. If I lived in an Islamic country I would stay and fight, I may consider sending my familly to safety first though
If the UK was threatened, I would defend it.
It would depend on the country Im residing in at the time of the invasion
In islam we dont fight for country.
We only fight to defend our land, life wealth, property, family and honour.
So no nationalism.
We only fight for what is permissible in islam to defend or fight for. Not a question of where u were born or if you happen to be in a country.
We fight for what is right- justice.
couldnt agree moreformat_quote Originally Posted by abu_musab461
Well, today, 17 August, Indonesia celebrated its 64th proclamation of Independence, having been occupied for more than 3 centuries by the Dutch and ravaged and raped for another 4 years by the Japanese.
My grandfather was an independence fighter, at some point he was arrested and detained and tortured by the Dutch.
If Indonesia is attacked by another country, InsyaAllah i will fight to rid the enemies.
Happy Independence Day!!format_quote Originally Posted by naidamar
format_quote Originally Posted by north_malaysian
Thank You!
Malyasian Independance day was also just recently right?
not yet... ours is on the 31st of August..format_quote Originally Posted by naidamar
wont defending for land is the same as defending for country.
i guess those country that never been invaded by the non-muslims or the land is been taken over will never understand how important for us to defend our country
our history Tok Janggut
When he was killed in a fight with the British, Tok Janggut was labelled a rebel and his body hung upside down for public viewing. Today though, he has been recognised as a freedom fighter, writes SAGER AHMAD
HERE’S a twist to history. Ninety-two years ago, Merdeka was “declared” — in May, 1915 — in the district of Pasir Putih in Kelantan. That was 42 years and three months before the August 31, 1957, declaration!
It was rebel Malay leader Tok Janggut who declared the district of Pasir Putih free from British rule but the “declaration” was short-lived. Pasir Putih is the southernmost district along the east coast in Kelantan bordering Besut in Terengganu.
Tok Janggut and several followers were killed in battle by British soldiers summoned from Singapore. They came in a gunboat armed with large cannons.
His body was paraded in a bullock cart around Kota Baru and later, in a final act of indignation, it was covered with only a loincloth and hung upside down near the Kelantan River for four hours for public viewing. He was later buried on the opposite bank.
Tok Janggut, whose real name was Haji Mat Hassan bin Panglima Munas, was from Jeram, Pasir Putih. He had long since being reinstated as a national hero. His grave is now under a hut with tiled roof and surrounded by concrete walls. A Tourism Malaysia signboard tells about his exploits and untimely death on May 24, 1915.
A school in Pasir Putih has been named after him and there is a monument by the Semerak River, complete with keris, spears, tengkolok (head gear) and two pictures of the fallen hero but there is no signboard to inform outsiders what the monument is all about.
Tok Janggut shares a special place in history alongside other heroes who stood up against the British colonial masters.
Among them were Datuk Maharaja Lela and Datuk Sagor in Perak, Datuk Bahaman, Datuk Gajah, Mat Kilau and Mat Seman (Mat Kelantan) in Pahang. Datuk Dol Said in Naning, Negeri Sembilan, and Haji Abdul Rahman Limbong in Terengganu.
Others were Mat Saleh and Antanum in Sabah, and Sharif Masahor, Rentap, Banting, Asun and Rosli Dobi in Sarawak. The main bone of contention among the “rebels” was the excessive and unfair tax and insensitive meddling in local affairs and customs by the new “masters”
is it true that Tok Janggut was a religious teacher?
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