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    so far i have seen many non muslims in this site, but they haven't become muslim yet. What is the point of a non-muslim being here if he or she isn't gonna become muslim.
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    Re: the non-muslims in this site

    format_quote Originally Posted by Asian man View Post
    so far i have seen many non muslims in this site, but they haven't become muslim yet. What is the point of a non-muslim being here if he or she isn't gonna become muslim.
    Um knowledge? I'm non-muslim and I have/had no intention on becoming muslim
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    Re: the non-muslims in this site

    Patience, Asian man. You're not going to make any converts expressing that kind of attitude, and nobody's going to learn anything unless differing viewpoints are expressed, explored and explained. This is at least as true with religion as it is with anything else, on the net or anywhere else. The name of this board is "IslamicBoard", not "Non-Muslims Or People Not Interested In Reverting Need Not Apply". Besides, how do you know none of them are going to become Muslim? You should have seen me when I first came to the Understanding Islam board.
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    im just saying, if anyone associates partners with god is not going to heaven. And you know that christians associate partners with God, which is a sin.
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    format_quote Originally Posted by Asian man View Post
    so far i have seen many non muslims in this site, but they haven't become muslim yet. What is the point of a non-muslim being here if he or she isn't gonna become muslim.


    Well we cannot force them at the point of a gun? Patience is a virtue.
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    Well we cannot force them at the point of a gun? Patience is a virtue.
    i know that but, you know that hell is worse than we think, why couldn't Allah just guide more than the half of the non-muslims already?
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    A very, very good question. Muslims are amuzing to some people.
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    Greetings and peace be with you Asian man; welcome to the forum, and I hope you can cope with us non- Muslims being here.

    I feel scriptures have a far greater meaning, when we try and change ourselves, rather than try and change others. As Yahya said, patience helps.

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    format_quote Originally Posted by Asian man View Post
    i know that but, you know that hell is worse than we think, why couldn't Allah just guide more than the half of the non-muslims already?
    The answer is simple, if everybody becomes really good and converts to Islam. You will have a lot of Unemployed Demons in Hell, so they will get really angry and try to break into our world or wage war with Heaven.
    Allah likes to keep everybody happy even Iblis (Satan)
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    ^ Hahaha I know it's a joke, but couldn't help correcting :

    1- They're Angels working Hell, demons "jinn" are like us punished and rewarded.

    2- Satin does not "rule" Hell domain, he will be punished there along with whomever followed him. But you're kinda right he'll be extremely bummed if he's there by himself.

    Ok, seriously though Asian Man, if God MADE us all muslim, then what is the point of life? We're here to be tested and to choose and be rewarded or punished based on our choices.

    I do see a bit of a point though in that there are old time non-muslims on the board who are not asking any questions or learning anything, and are just sneaking in cheap shots or dragging in some anti-islamic garbage every now and then, but they are just numbering on a single-hand-fingers in the middle of many dozens of welcome non-muslim members.

    Anyway Asian Man, "you are not their controller" as the Quran says. If the prophets Moses, Jesus, and Mohamed didn't convert everyone, then even LI will not succeed in that.
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    i was a non-muslim when i came here, and very skeptical about islam however i wanted to learn more about it. my heart was changed, so that doesnt mean that no one changes their views about islam who is non muslim who comes here lol
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    Asian man thats a very rude thing to say.I would say learning each other's religions is a very important part.So just stop being rude
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    format_quote Originally Posted by Asian man View Post
    so far i have seen many non muslims in this site, but they haven't become muslim yet. What is the point of a non-muslim being here if he or she isn't gonna become muslim.
    I doubt very much that many of them will revert to Islam. Yet each of them is a valued member, as they do come to learn the truth about us and not as the media portrays us. There are many misconceptions about Islam that abound in the non-Muslim world. You will find as you read through here that few non-Muslims have ever met a Muslim in person. While we do desire for all non-Muslims to embrace Islam, we have to take the first step and that first step is to show the world we are humans and not creatures or objects deserving of hate. To show there is not reason to hate us, is the door opening for Da'wah. While many may not step through that door, they are learning not to slam it it in our faces.
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    well Allah only knows whether they will revert or not! Allah can guide anybody if he wants no matter what type of a person they are. i remember when i was a teenager and hanging with my friends if they spotted a man with a beard they would laugh at him and call him bin laden and i would laugh along i also use to shop in a asian clothes store for cheap clothes with my friends and there would be a man with a beard serving us he always had good manners with me and that was the first time i ever met a muslim he always had a friendly smile. and i use to wonder why he was so kind. who would have thought id revert to islam years later?
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    I just realized how many of us here are reverts. I suspect this forum has the largest number of Muslims that reverted from other faiths, then any other forum.

    I never counted nor do I know for certain, but it seems like nearly half of the Muslims who are active posters are reverts.
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    format_quote Originally Posted by Woodrow View Post
    I just realized how many of us here are reverts. I suspect this forum has the largest number of Muslims that reverted from other faiths, then any other forum.

    I never counted nor do I know for certain, but it seems like nearly half of the Muslims who are active posters are reverts.
    another reason to respect fellow non muslim bros
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    Sisters Seeker-of-Light and Cat's Eyes, and Uncle Woodrow, your posts have made me very happy, and at the same time, have made me realise my own inadequacies. I as a born Muslim, do not have anywhere near the amount of knowledge that you all have maashaAllah. It's so inspiring for me

    Also, Asian man, many people have had their misconceptions about Islam cleared through this forum, and for many it has been their first chance to converse with a Muslim and develop a deeper understanding of Islam and Muslims. In today's world, that is a huge thing in itself.
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    Ok, I will reveal at last, why Amadeus is here. I've noticed that some of You guys are big Arsenal London fans, and I'm here to persuade You that there is no club than Juventus Turin !!!.
    Ok now You can ban me.
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    Even many of us born-Muslims go through stages of reversion in our lives. When we feel hopeless, start questioning our faith, stop practicing Islam etc. Then we start reading the Quran and gathering the light of knowledge and Allah SWT opens up our hearts to the truth and improves our faith, subhanAllah, it's a lifelong journey.
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    format_quote Originally Posted by Asian man View Post
    so far i have seen many non muslims in this site, but they haven't become muslim yet. What is the point of a non-muslim being here if he or she isn't gonna become muslim.
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    They impress on thee as a favour that they have embraced Islam. Say, "Count not your Islam as a favour upon me: Nay, Allah has conferred a favour upon you that He has guided you to the faith, if ye be true and sincere.




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