Sunan Abu Dawud contains some weak hadeeth. However we do accept many narrations from it. Its part of the "Sahih Sita" which have become the main sources for hadeeth (Sahih Bukhari, Sahih Muslim, Sunan Abu Dawud, Sunan ibn Maajah, Sunan a'Tirmidhi, Sunan a'Nisa'ee).
However there are many other collections from many of the great mu7aditheen of the past that the scholars refer to as well such as the Muwatta of Imam Malik and the Musnad of Imam Ahmad.
Thank you. Are there many hadiths book? What about some of negatives description on our beloved Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) that non-muslims tried to find these propagandas and asked me what's is Sunan Abu-Dawud Hadith book?
I am fully knowledges of Qur'an but not hadiths.
"When the Qur'an is read, Listen to it with attention, And hold your peace: That ye may receive Mercy" ~ 7:204
"Then do ye remember Me; I will remember You. Be grateful to Me, And reject not Faith. ~ 2:152
As for negative descriptions, then what specifically are you referring to? Remember its important not to limit to the understanding of these collections by the Imam that collected them. Rather its important to look at the authenticity of the HADEETH that were collected. So Imam al Bukhari's Saheeh is Saheeh not simply because he's Imam al Bukhari, but because the hadeeth he collected were authentic.
As for negative descriptions, then what specifically are you referring to? Remember its important not to limit to the understanding of these collections by the Imam that collected them. Rather its important to look at the authenticity of the HADEETH that were collected. So Imam al Bukhari's Saheeh is Saheeh not simply because he's Imam al Bukhari, but because the hadeeth he collected were authentic.
Brother AhmadibnPhilip,
Okay, we have Qur'an with us, which one useful Hadiths since many? Bukhari Hadiih? Are we require to have it ?
I don't have myself a copy of any Hadiths.
"When the Qur'an is read, Listen to it with attention, And hold your peace: That ye may receive Mercy" ~ 7:204
"Then do ye remember Me; I will remember You. Be grateful to Me, And reject not Faith. ~ 2:152
^ Alright. Show me your ID drive licence in order to make sure you are really AHMAD, not scholar with last name Philip!
lol you're a funny bro mashaAllah, btw the link i gave you is just Sahih al Bukhari available online. Sahih Muslim, Sunan Abu Dawud, and Sunan ibn Maajah are also available online I believe. Other works are available but not translated.
I am still very much a newcomer to the Ahadeeth. So what I say regarding them is going to be in layman's termonology and from my limited understanding. From what I understand there are over half a million Ahadeeth some possibly pure fraud written for bad intentions. It wil be many years still before the levels of authenticity and reliability can be determined for all of them
The Science of Hadeeth deals with establishing the authenticity and reliability of the Ahadeeth. The most widely accepted as being authenticate are the Ahadeeth of Muslim, Bakhari, Dawud and Tirmidhi. Of those Dawud is considered to have the lowest level of reliability. In that some of the individual hadeeth have only one reference.
The Ahadeeth while being the words of men are still considered to be required of us to follow as they are the witnessed words spoken by Muhammad(PBUH) and witnessed accounts of his actions. Since he was the most knowledgable of Islam, he is our guide as to how we should live as Muslims. To deny the ahadeeth is to deny the teachings of Muhammad(PBUH)
The Ahadeeth while being the words of men are still considered to be required of us to follow as they are the witnessed words spoken by Muhammad(PBUH) and witnessed accounts of his actions. Since he was the most knowledgable of Islam, he is our guide as to how we should live as Muslims. To deny the ahadeeth is to deny the teachings of Muhammad(PBUH)
I believe that hadiths must be interpreted in the light of the Qur'an, since the Qur'an is our only infallible source. I really like Pakistani scholar Dr. Khalid Zaheer's views on this matter: http://www.khalidzaheer.com/
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I believe that hadiths must be interpreted in the light of the Qur'an, since the Qur'an is our only infallible source.
That is true and if you find any contradiction between a hadeeth and the Qur'an follow the Qur'an and seek the advice of a knowledgeable scholar to get an opinion as to your understanding of the Hadeeth. There will be no contradiction between true hadeeth and the Qur'an if we are understanding both correctly.
That is true and if you find any contradiction between a hadeeth and the Qur'an follow the Qur'an and seek the advice of a knowledgeable scholar to get an opinion as to your understanding of the Hadeeth. There will be contradiction between true hadeeth and the Qur'an if we are understanding both correctly.
The problem is that there are (sadly) many scholars who don't interpret hadiths in the light of the Qur'an. It seems to me that masses of people follow such scholars. It's hard to find a reliable and knowledgeable scholar, unfortunately.
Last edited by Argamemnon; 11-12-2009 at 10:14 PM.
A saheeh hadeeth, may by its apparent meaning, contradict the Qur'an but in reality it works in conformity with the Qur'an. The example is the hadeeth concerning stoning the adulterers. It is important to stick to the ulemma on the these matters as they can give you the understanding as well as the grading.
A saheeh hadeeth, may by its apparent meaning, contradict the Qur'an but in reality it works in conformity with the Qur'an. The example is the hadeeth concerning stoning the adulterers. It is important to stick to the ulemma on the these matters as they can give you the understanding as well as the grading.
There is no stoning to death in Islam. There is also no "abrogation" of Qur'an verses. One has to wonder why it is still practised in many countries? Is this not a clear indication that the "Ulema" are not doing their job properly?
Last edited by Argamemnon; 11-13-2009 at 12:42 AM.
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