or mabye just coz we know how **** hard being a housewife is!
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1. because we are not selfish that we cant spend our money on our wives.
2. because we are not niggard that we say to her to manage her own spendings.
3. because we love our wives and dont want that any non-mahram at her work-place look at her, talk to her with desire.
4. because we want to remain faithfuland dont want that women in our work-place divert us frm our wives.
5. because we are wise and know that if women also join work-force, then who'll take care of home and childern - the future ummah.
6. because we are long-sighted that know that mixing of men-women will result in cases of affairs, heartbreaks, haram physical relations, jealousy, hatred, lust, etc.
or mabye just coz we know how **** hard being a housewife is!
So she cannot manage her own income/expenditure? I know of many Muslim women who can do this very well.format_quote Originally Posted by ahmed_indian
2. because we are not niggard that we say to her to manage her own spendings.
Sounds a bit paranoid and jealous to me!3. because we love our wives and dont want that any non-mahram at her work-place look at her, talk to her with desire.
Can you not work with a woman in your workplace without having "distracting" thoughts about her?4. because we want to remain faithfuland dont want that women in our work-place divert us frm our wives.
If you say so...6. because we are long-sighted that know that mixing of men-women will result in cases of affairs, heartbreaks, haram physical relations, jealousy, hatred, lust, etc.
Most people try to build a family with its essential pillar which is the mother . When i visited my sister in the us i learned that all her neighbors were house wifes. She even told me that most people there prefer that women stays home to raise their childrens. Christians muslims etc...
format_quote Originally Posted by Eliphaz
Among the rights of the wife has is that her husband should spend on her, and his spending on her is one of the greatest good deeds that he can do that will bring him closer to Allaah. This spending covers food, drink, clothing and housing, and all the other things that a wife needs for her sustenance and good health.
Really? 65% of female workers are faced with sexual harassment in the work place in some European countries. Uh! Man, luckily I don't have the article of the portion of women working on police stations and in the army experiencing sexual harrasment. (+ the bosses making use of their status on workplaces!)
Sounds a bit paranoid and jealous to me!
Last edited by Asiyah3; 01-30-2010 at 12:47 PM.
its straying away from the topic a bit but for example if your wife for instance wants to work then should we discourage her from not working?
Only in Indonesia, ............... maybe.
Woman's complain.
"I want to be a housewife but I must work, looking for money because my husband is lazy".
Man's complain.
"I am a jobless. I visit many offices, looking for a job, but they always told me : sorry buddy, we are looking for female employee, not male".
I'm sorry but I don't see how sexual harrassment in the work place is a valid argument to say that Muslim women should be encouraged to be stay-at-home housewifes. And I don't know where you got that statistic from but it sounds like fear-mongering propaganda to me.format_quote Originally Posted by _muslim_
I really dislike this thread.
It doesn't reflect the Muslim men or women I know and leaves ample opportunity for the ignorant (Eliphaz) to have a strategic advantage where one shouldn't even come to question.
La 7wala wla qiwta illah billah
by the way all the women in my family without exception are hard working mothers and wives and daughters and aunts, they see value in their work and they benefit others and are benefited from others!
Islam doesn't forbit women from working.format_quote Originally Posted by Eliphaz
From the media (European).And I don't know where you got that statistic from but it sounds like fear-mongering propaganda to me.
EDIT: You said encouraged to be stay-at-home housewifes? I find that statement very ignorant. I know not one family in which the women aren't encouraged to work rather the opposite. The daughter/woman/sister's family are very supportive to studies/education. What I see around me is both the husband and wife working. And in some case (where the mother works while the small child needs it's mother.) I'll add unfortunately, coz' the child hasn't always succeeded to have the mother's nearness and love.
Last edited by Asiyah3; 01-31-2010 at 12:33 PM.
I don't want a housewife , i want a house with a close-knit family
I agree with this post.format_quote Originally Posted by Gossamer skyeI really dislike this thread.
It doesn't reflect the Muslim men or women I know and leaves ample opportunity for the ignorant (Eliphaz) to have a strategic advantage where one shouldn't even come to question.
La 7wala wla qiwta illah billah
by the way all the women in my family without exception are hard working mothers and wives and daughters and aunts, they see value in their work and they benefit others and are benefited from others!
Well, that's a general statement. I won't mind if my spouse works as a Nurse, serving people in their medical needs. I won't mind if my spouse teaches or is a professor, attending to people in something that is greatly needed: knowledge. And so on so forth.
Muslim women have shown great ability and potential in Islamic history. I recommend the Labbayk Academy course on the Conquest of Persia for all of us here. It will prove beneficial to us all, Insha'Allah. Register free at http://labbaykacademy.com.
But back to subject.. The OP (ahmed_indian) was being lighthearted in creating this thread. He meant it in good fun, and not literally. No need to analyze it so deeply.
He's using the stereotypes people use on Muslims figuratively. So keep the lightheartedness alive and don't be such a stickler.
Allow me to translate:
In Islam, women are the Queens of the household. They may work as they choose within the boundaries of Shari'ah, which is not restricted nor limited. Rather, it is only precautious and noteworthy.
In the Pre-Islamic days of Arabia (also known as the Days of Jahiliyya (ignorance)), people used to bury their daughters alive. But when Rasulullah, may the peace and blessings of Allah be upon him, came as a light among the darkness... there was a stop on all the infanticides (murder of infants). But these ignorant Arabs during the pre-Islamic days buried them for their own good. Before Islam arrived in the nick of time, the women would be married to their relatives, such as uncles and brother-in-laws. And I mean, they used to have multiple husbands at one time. The sanctity of marriage did not exist.
Islam came and gave them their fair share of rights in both livelihood, inheritance, freedom, and more.
In France, and other countries, they are banning the veil. The women were asked why they wore the veil. These were both married and single women, and all responded alike. They did it to preserve their own dignity. Would you rather these women sit in bars?
In my limited years of foruming, I've seen many people express their sorrow for us Americans. I see more freedom here than anywhere else. If I want a place to pray, any American would show utmost respect and clear out the entire room of not only people, but wallhangings that have eyes on them etc.
I steered off topic. I end my post here. :X
At times I wish I was a housewife :P
I don't know how my mom did it. She worked full-time, raised children, kept an immaculate house. I can barely manage my apartment and full-time job. lol. Unfortunately housing is very expensive here. Most of our duel-income goes to rent. Maybe, inshallah, someday I can be a housewife. I'd like to run an online business someday, inshallah. But I'm not having much luck with ideas at the moment.
It would be nice if a woman could choose what she wants to do. Work if she wants, stay home if she wants.
i cant imagine myself being at home for the rest of my life even if i did have kidsid feel useless. i want to work for Allah and gain my rewards outside of the home also.
^ Please read the above two posts.
Muslim women are able to choose whichever style they want. They can choose to work, within Shari'ah, or they can serve as housewives. "Serve" is probably not the best word to use, as those westernists might be quick to assume i am referring to "servant" which will then lead them to "enslavement", and thus the Media influence continues...
Every Muslim doesn't prefer housewives?
سم الله الرحمن الرحيم
Bismillā hir Rahmā nir Rahīm
In the name of Allah, Most Gracious, Most Merciful
اشْهَدُ انْ لّآ اِلهَ اِلَّا اللّهُ وَ اَشْهَدُ اَنَّ مُحَمَّدً اعَبْدُه وَ رسوله
Ašh hadu al-lā ilāha illā-llāhu, wa
ašh hadu anna Muhammadun ‘abduhu wa rasūluhu
I bear witness that none is worthy of worship but Allah, the One alone, without partner, and I bear witness that Muhammad is His servant and Messenger
As-Salāmu `Alaykum (السلام عليكم):
ahmed_indian:
Your opinion that doesn't apply to every Muslim is obviously a contentious subject.
It is difficult for many to differentiate Cultural adaptions verses Islamic. Even though Islamic culture is sometimes interwoven with Arab Culture. But don't forget Islam prohibited many Arab traditions with origins based on paganism.
Women in some cultures are not encouraged to work and religion is sometimes is used to justify the culture practices.
Now when I provide the following Sira (History) of Nabi Muhammad (SAWS) usually all Muslims would accept it. But the practice verses what their cultures have taught them overrules many times.
The Prophet Muhammad (SAWS) worked for a woman. (Khadijah RA)
A female entrepreneur, a very lucrative business.
Woman are unable to drive in some countries.
Khadijah (RA) rode a camel. (That is controlling a mode of transportation)
Fatimah (RA) rode a camel.
Aisha (RA) rode a camel.
Very eager to view the responses.
I want a wife who looks pretty, works, and is lovable? lol...
What's with the question mark?format_quote Originally Posted by _PakistaN_
Last edited by Asiyah3; 01-31-2010 at 12:40 PM.
As far as I know Ayesha (ra) did not control the camel, she rode it but did not "drive" it. If you have evidence that she "drove" it please present forth. Regarding women not being able to drive, I assume you are referring to Saudi Arabia as probably that is the only country now where its forbidden, its a pretty complex issue. Debating on an Islamic forum wont solve the issue. There are good arguments on both sides and I'll let the ulama decide what is best for the Saudi society within the light of Islamic fiqh. There are, however, pretty rebellious women in Saudi who broke the law, as a sign of protest, by driving out cars on the road. Such acts of insolence by breaking the laws would not look too good for their own cause.format_quote Originally Posted by sabr62
Last edited by CosmicPathos; 01-31-2010 at 12:44 PM.
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