You mean as a Khalifa? Or a leader of Army? I doubt they can be for that, at least in Islam ....
Rest is up for discussion such as Minister of Justice or Minister of Health ...
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no not leading an army, as in leading a country with the team behind her. I see no problems with this. And I want to know more.
When the Prophet heard that the Persians had appointed the daughter of Chosroes as their queen, he said, “No people who appoint a woman as their leader will ever prosper.” (Reported by al-Bukhaari, 13/53).
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sorry to say sister. that is no logic. And plus he is not a scholar.
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no not leading an army, as in leading a country with the team behind her. I see no problems with this. And I want to know more.
all right, you are the most logical person here.
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The leader of a country will obviously need to travel quite much. It's hard for a woman to always ask her husband to travel with her especially when a man has financial responsibilities and has to provide for the family. His work will be pretty much interrupted.
He'll also have to devote himself for his work and his country. We have families to take care of.
Also making alot of important decision like about war etc. These are not easy, you'll have to share your time between your children and husband and these meetings and conferences. It's much easier for a lady to be a minister or someone who can have an impact.
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The man leader would also have to spare time for his wife and children....
The husband can travel with her as well as the children and he can also have his job based on the government. He can earn whilst travelling.
And the decisions of wars get an easier with men does it? Not to mention she had a whole team behind her, scholars and other expert that would assist her to make important decisions.
The Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) said: "Help your brother, whether he is an oppressor or he is an oppressed one.." [Bukhaari].
I mean didnt the prophet wives taught Islam to their societies. isnt that like being a leader?
No, not at all. The men came and asked the wives of the Prophet (may Allah be pleased with them) Islamic matters from behind a screen, in accordance with Surah al-Ahzab, ayah 53.
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No, it is not, because the men came to the wives while they were in their homes. If someone comes to me at home and asks me a question on an Islamic matter (say, one that I have some knowledge of) , how on earth is that like me leading a country?
Apart from the above hadeeth, all the Islamic scholars are unanimous that a woman cannot be a leader.
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This is a clear message for mankind in order that they may be warned thereby, and that they may know that He is only One God, and that those of understanding may take heed (14:52)
Indeed Allah knows, and you know not (16: 74, part)
Even if it was behind a screen, the men based their decision on what the wives have said right?
So that is still like leading a country. :/
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I do not think I'd want to be ruled by a woman who orders from behind the veil. Neither by one who orders without a veil. Id want to not be ruled by anyone at all. Each must be his/her own leader.
I'd reckon those sahaaba sought advice of Prophet's wives in matters in which they were not sure what were the commandments so they seeked facts from the wives (ra).
Ayesha (ra) led the army against Ali (ra). She later repented from this mistake of hers. The fact that she repented shows that even she knew that Islam did not give that leeway to women on battlefield. But again, those men on battlefield were courageous. Muslim men today are not even a quarter of them.
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The man leader would also have to spare time for his wife and children....
The husband can travel with her as well as the children and he can also have his job based on the government. He can earn whilst travelling.
And the decisions of wars get an easier with men does it? Not to mention she had a whole team behind her, scholars and other expert that would assist her to make important decisions.
Sis, what if she's lying on a hospital trolley giving birth lol as we get attacked? Worse she may end up having quads lol! What if she has to have a c-sec? Or she takes so much gas and air she goes a bit mental and gives orders that could ruin the country lol? What if she gets post-natal depression? Not forgetting the regular hormonal hurricane lol. I mean there's many things which can affect a woman's ability to think straight. And she can't be mum and wife and be running a country. It feels like that running a home anyway, and that is testing for most of us lol. We are emotional creatures, even when we are not emotional lol. :\ anyway hope you get the pic sis
But that is a battlefield. Leaders are hardly ever in a battlefield these days.
But these men based their decision on what these wives have said. do you think leader go to each and one individuals of their countries and order them to do whatever? No, leaders tell a group of people the rules. And the wives were not clarifying the rules set by the prophet (pbuh)? which is what a leader in a Muslim country would do, as they make decision and clarify and justify their rules accordance to Islam.
I want to know the extent and involvement a woman can make in her own country? I think Muslim countries would benefit from women's impact. Some of people would probably follow Islam rather than culture (i.e. forced marriage and domestic violence).
Anyways I need my earlier questions answered can a woman become a visa president or to what extent she can became close to leadership?
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