As far as I know my forefathers were from Saudi Arabia. They settled in india approximately 4 - 5 centuries ago. We have a family tree that starts at that point. I would love to know the family tree in arabia and if we were linked to any prominent Sahaba (Ra).
As far as I know my forefathers were from Saudi Arabia. They settled in india approximately 4 - 5 centuries ago. We have a family tree that starts at that point. I would love to know the family tree in arabia and if we were linked to any prominent Sahaba (Ra).
I guess we all would be happy if we are linked to any prominent sahaba it wud be something to be happy about but we dont know much about our ancestry,
iv met a lot of people who call themselves sayyed and claim that they are frm the lineage of prophet muhammed pbuh but iv hardly seen them praying, they infact leave fard salaat
they think they are above the muslim ummah, which i know is completely wrong, what do u say to these guys to help them have a clear image of islam??
Oh lord make my best deeds the last deeds
Oh lord make my best day the last day (aakhirah)
I'm not sure how Islam reached my ancestors, I do know we used to be indian's, from the Rajput Cast or something. And when they became Muslim's they imported many of the traditions for example hindu/sikh wedding traditions are still done at muslim weddings.
“Who said that guidance requires there to be someone accompanying you"
Quite a number of our members are reverts and the First Muslims in their families. My ancient ancestors were Muslim but like most Muslims in the Baltic Region where forced into Christianity after being over run by the Catholics after in the Northern Crusades. I am one of the few in my family who reverted back to Islam. Strangely it was not until after I reverted I learned of the Islamic background of my ancestors in the forgotten past.
But since then I learned I came from both the Golden and white Tatar hordes and going in both directions my ancestors come from the People of Mongolia and ancient Macedonia. Originaly they were not Muslim but were Pagan and Quite brutal conquerers. It was after they conquered India the came in contact with Muslims and during their attempts to conquer the Arabian Peninsula that found Islam and became peaceful. Oddly, if it was not for Islam, the people of the UK may have ended up with brownish skin and speaking Mongolian. While history books say they were stopped by Prince Vlad, I personally believe it was because they became peaceful and gave up their barbaric ways.
I'm a Kurdish guy and I used to live in Iraq. As all (of the very ancient) Kurds, my ancient ancestors were Zoroastrians. However the Sword of Allah, Khalid ibn al Walid - may Allah be pleased with him - conquered Iraq - Alhamdulillah!! So Iraq was under the rule of Islam and many Kurds began to convert to Islam - Alhamdulillah - and I guess my ancestors were amongst those - Alhamdulillah! And today the majority of the Kurds in Iraq are Muslims and as far as I know, no one in my family belongs and belonged to any other religion plus always been Sunni - alhamdulillah!
yeah u can never tell and i think if one is really sayyid then they woudnt go about boasting it so much
and allah knows best
I think you are right on this, I know of an Alim, in fact three of them, who are brothers, I have heard from prominent ulema that they are sayyids, very learned alims all of them, they never speak about their lineage, you always here it from other people. The one brother, my allah grant him jannah ameen, passed away in the masjid on Jumuah whilst giving the Khutbah on the mimbar.
I am an Indonesian of Javanese ethnicity (on the island of Java).
I can trace back my paternal lineage all the way to around 1200s (we have family tree, "silseelah") through the kings of Mataram kingdom to Demak kingdom, and Majapahit kingdom. The Majapajit kingdom was hindu, while Demak kingdom was started by a majapahit prince who converted from Hindu to Islam. the demak kingdom flourished which weakened the majapahit kingdom and then finally the majapahit royals gave up on their kingdom and moved to the island of Bali (which remained hindu until now).
As far as I know (from what I learned in school), islam came to Indonesia (through the island of Sumatra) by way of traders from Gujarat (india) and Yemen. All Indonesian natives who converted to Islam definitely did it through peaceful ways (marriages, syiar, etc), until the dutch came and started to christianize (especially eastern indonesia) through colonization.
I'm not sure how Islam reached my ancestors, I do know we used to be indian's, from the Rajput Cast or something. And when they became Muslim's they imported many of the traditions for example hindu/sikh wedding traditions are still done at muslim weddings.
i see, can u tell us what are those wedding traditions are?
Oh lord make my best deeds the last deeds
Oh lord make my best day the last day (aakhirah)
Quite a number of our members are reverts and the First Muslims in their families. My ancient ancestors were Muslim but like most Muslims in the Baltic Region where forced into Christianity after being over run by the Catholics after in the Northern Crusades. I am one of the few in my family who reverted back to Islam. Strangely it was not until after I reverted I learned of the Islamic background of my ancestors in the forgotten past.
But since then I learned I came from both the Golden and white Tatar hordes and going in both directions my ancestors come from the People of Mongolia and ancient Macedonia. Originaly they were not Muslim but were Pagan and Quite brutal conquerers. It was after they conquered India the came in contact with Muslims and during their attempts to conquer the Arabian Peninsula that found Islam and became peaceful. Oddly, if it was not for Islam, the people of the UK may have ended up with brownish skin and speaking Mongolian. While history books say they were stopped by Prince Vlad, I personally believe it was because they became peaceful and gave up their barbaric ways.
thats a quite history brother , may allah keep urs and our(s) future generation on islam insha allah
Oh lord make my best deeds the last deeds
Oh lord make my best day the last day (aakhirah)
I'm a Kurdish guy and I used to live in Iraq. As all (of the very ancient) Kurds, my ancient ancestors were Zoroastrians. However the Sword of Allah, Khalid ibn al Walid - may Allah be pleased with him - conquered Iraq - Alhamdulillah!! So Iraq was under the rule of Islam and many Kurds began to convert to Islam - Alhamdulillah - and I guess my ancestors were amongst those - Alhamdulillah! And today the majority of the Kurds in Iraq are Muslims and as far as I know, no one in my family belongs and belonged to any other religion plus always been Sunni - alhamdulillah!
i see, talking about kurdish people, i recently saw a documentary iraq in fragments by the end of the doc they showed a kurdish guy who was a muslim, he was in his late 60's and he said something which i didnt like at all, he said whoever wins in fight (be it any kind of fight) god is always on the side of the winner. he was referring to the americans waging / winning wars agains muslims in afganistan/ iraq .... etc
i think he didnt understood the message of islam, i.e for islam sometimes u have to give up life and winning a battle in dunya is not everything
im not criticizing u or ur ethnic background but just trying to say that many of the muslims have forgotten the real message of islam, i.e. stay on tawheed and fight fisabililah and worry about aakhirah and not dunya
Oh lord make my best deeds the last deeds
Oh lord make my best day the last day (aakhirah)
I think you are right on this, I know of an Alim, in fact three of them, who are brothers, I have heard from prominent ulema that they are sayyids, very learned alims all of them, they never speak about their lineage, you always here it from other people. The one brother, my allah grant him jannah ameen, passed away in the masjid on Jumuah whilst giving the Khutbah on the mimbar.
absolutely, people who are god fearing they dont ever boast for anything, they are humble in front of allah and his creation
Oh lord make my best deeds the last deeds
Oh lord make my best day the last day (aakhirah)
I am an Indonesian of Javanese ethnicity (on the island of Java).
I can trace back my paternal lineage all the way to around 1200s (we have family tree, "silseelah") through the kings of Mataram kingdom to Demak kingdom, and Majapahit kingdom. The Majapajit kingdom was hindu, while Demak kingdom was started by a majapahit prince who converted from Hindu to Islam. the demak kingdom flourished which weakened the majapahit kingdom and then finally the majapahit royals gave up on their kingdom and moved to the island of Bali (which remained hindu until now).
As far as I know (from what I learned in school), islam came to Indonesia (through the island of Sumatra) by way of traders from Gujarat (india) and Yemen. All Indonesian natives who converted to Islam definitely did it through peaceful ways (marriages, syiar, etc), until the dutch came and started to christianize (especially eastern indonesia) through colonization.
alhamdolillah and now i guess indonesia has a huge muslim population..
Oh lord make my best deeds the last deeds
Oh lord make my best day the last day (aakhirah)
alhamdolillah and now i guess indonesia has a huge muslim population..
Indonesia does have the largest muslim population than any other countries (around 87% of Indonesia's 250 millions citizens are muslims), however, many still inherit Islam which is tainted hinduism/buddhism beliefs which is borderline shirk if not outright shirk.
In addition, "westernization" and secularization are creeping in the big cities and towns.
Alhamdulillah, many many Islamic organizations are working very hard in da'wah and to bring society more into Islam
Quite a number of our members are reverts and the First Muslims in their families. My ancient ancestors were Muslim but like most Muslims in the Baltic Region where forced into Christianity after being over run by the Catholics after in the Northern Crusades. I am one of the few in my family who reverted back to Islam. Strangely it was not until after I reverted I learned of the Islamic background of my ancestors in the forgotten past.
But since then I learned I came from both the Golden and white Tatar hordes and going in both directions my ancestors come from the People of Mongolia and ancient Macedonia. Originaly they were not Muslim but were Pagan and Quite brutal conquerers. It was after they conquered India the came in contact with Muslims and during their attempts to conquer the Arabian Peninsula that found Islam and became peaceful. Oddly, if it was not for Islam, the people of the UK may have ended up with brownish skin and speaking Mongolian. While history books say they were stopped by Prince Vlad, I personally believe it was because they became peaceful and gave up their barbaric ways.
Salaam alaykum
Interesting. People in Finland are also from same direction than you. Even partly. All my Asian friends say I have Asian face and most of them think I am from Central Asia.
From Occupied Palestine:
We have suffered too much for too long. We will not accept apartheid masked as peace. We will settle for no less than our freedom.
Interesting. People in Finland are also from same direction than you. Even partly. All my Asian friends say I have Asian face and most of them think I am from Central Asia.
Assalamu' alaikum.
Some people in some forums said if Finns people are Mongoloid. Is it right ?.
Few years ago I meet a Finn woman, but she looked like Caucasian who tall and blonde. Also, although I never meet other Finn people I have seen many photos of rally drivers, and some F1 drivers from Finland. But, they didn't look like Mongoloid.
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So Iraq was under the rule of Islam and many Kurds began to convert to Islam - Alhamdulillah - and I guess my ancestors were amongst those - Alhamdulillah!
And today the majority of the Kurds in Iraq are Muslims and as far as I know, no one in my family belongs and belonged to any other religion plus always been Sunni - alhamdulillah!
, may allah keep urs and our(s) future generation on islam insha allah
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