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    Okay, so musical instruments are haraam.

    These sounds from space are not actual audible sound within human range, rather they're electromagnetic waves that have been converted into audible sound using instruments, not musical instruments, but still instruments, so that we can hear them.

    But I don't know if they count as music? Obviously not on their own. But if you interpret them as music when you hear them, and have a desire to listen to them, does that make them music and thus does this make them wrong to listen to for enjoyment? I just want to make sure before doing anything wrongful.

    If you want to hear them they're on youtube, just search up something like sounds in space or sounds of planets.
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    Re: Sounds from space

    Hmm i've never heard or read about sounds from space.. do you have any article about them?
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    Re: Sounds from space

    format_quote Originally Posted by Amoeba View Post
    hear them they're on youtube
    Well here;s what I got, But most of it seems to be dubbed, and the sound seems to be added from an external source..

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jUshh...eature=related
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    Re: Sounds from space

    Yeah the sounds aren't as they would be in nature, they are edited by instruments to make them audible to us. In nature they're not audible sound at all but something like electromagnetic waves and radio waves...? Much like how a radio transceiver converts radio waves into sound.

    This is my favourite:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ZYFa...eature=related

    Before I discovered these I had this epic dream, long story short at the end of the dream there were planets in the sky making musical sounds, very much like these sounds except they were much more rumbly and deep causing my chest to vibrate. Very eerie. When I found these videos I was like WOW!
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    Re: Sounds from space

    There's no air in space. Therefore, no sound. Simple as that...
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    Re: Sounds from space

    And that's why, as I said, they're not sounds made in space, rather they're the result of electromagnetic and radio emissions from planets being decoded by a "tranceiver".

    Just like how our radio transmissions can be carried through space, even though they're not being carried on sound, they're being carried on radio waves that can be decoded into sound by a device.
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    Re: Sounds from space

    They actually sound weird and scary
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    Re: Sounds from space

    So does anyone know if they fall under music?

    I guess to each their own, I could listen to them all day.
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    Re: Sounds from space

    format_quote Originally Posted by мυѕℓιмαн 4 ℓιfє View Post
    They actually sound weird and scary
    The aliens are going to get you..im joking

    to be honest thats not really music...i mean its not going to make someone to boogie...it sounds like wind noise

    if it puts you in a trance like state and diverts your attention from focusing on worshiping Allah alone then its haram

    the noises are not man made its from nature....so its aight

    hope that helps insha'Allah
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    Re: Sounds from space

    I do feel kind of focused on them. I keep being reminded of that dream I had.
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    Re: Sounds from space

    format_quote Originally Posted by Abdullahii View Post
    The aliens are going to get you..im joking

    to be honest thats not really music...i mean its not going to make someone to boogie...it sounds like wind noise

    if it puts you in a trance like state and diverts your attention from focusing on worshiping Allah alone then its haram

    the noises are not man made its from nature....so its aight

    hope that helps insha'Allah
    I agree with the brother, if it makes you forget about the remembrance of Allaah, then indeed stay away from it. But i dont see why it would, its just a scary geeky sound

    Aliens are geeky
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    Re: Sounds from space

    format_quote Originally Posted by Amoeba View Post
    I do feel kind of focused on them. I keep being reminded of that dream I had.
    if you sit there and listen to these sounds for hours on end then that's not good...but you can listen to these sounds and reflect on how vast and big the universe is and how the creator of this universe is so mighty and beautiful.
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    Re: Sounds from space

    Well..*cough* I was wrong
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    Re: Sounds from space

    Thank you everyone I think it's clear now that I shouldn't listen to them.
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    Re: Sounds from space

    format_quote Originally Posted by Amoeba View Post
    Thank you everyone I think it's clear now that I shouldn't listen to them.
    I don't know the answer to your question but it might help to think about this:

    Do people stop themselves from listening to a running stream because it comforts them?
    Does music have to have a beat?
    Would you stop listening to people talking if you found it melodious (there have been some very weird releases where it is people talking - but then would you also stop listening to lectures)?

    Since music is so subjective it maybe difficult to draw the line. Dropping a garbage can might be one man's mistake, but another's symphony.
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    Re: Sounds from space

    Yeah, I think it very much depends on the individual.

    I wouldn't stop listening to the birds singing, for example, even though I find it musical. But as abdussattar mentioned intentions matter, I'd listen fondly to bird song walking down the lane but I wouldn't exactly take recordings and bring them home and start playing them off the computer (I don't have a music radio tape cd player thingy). But I would happily listen to recordings of other things. The saturn sound for example, I woke up with it in my head because I must have been dreaming about it, probably signifying I've been listening to it too much. I've developed a fondness for such sounds to the extent that when I close my eyes I see planets and stars.

    So my intention when listening to it has been for the purpose of immersion in music, a synthetic sound I might add because it is radio waves that have been converted into a sound we can hear, we can't hear raw radio waves. The sounds affect my mood (one of the good reasons why music is warned against). That's why I've come to conclude I should cease listening to the for enjoyment.
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    Re: Sounds from space

    format_quote Originally Posted by abdussattar View Post
    Intentions matter... if you listen them to get pleasure, you might be listening to "music"
    What if you listen to it just to relieve yourself from stress?
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    Re: Sounds from space

    ^Then listen to the beautiful recitations of Allaah allmightys word the Quraan, and that is best for you!

    "And when the Qur'an is recited, give ear to it and pay heed, that ye may obtain mercy" Al-Quraan
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    Re: Sounds from space

    Well the way I see it is if you do something right for the right intention, it's a right. If you do something right for the wrong intention, it's a wrong (against yourself). If you do something wrong for the wrong intention then it's a wrong and if you do something wrong even with the right intention, it is still a wrong because it's been prohibited for a good reason, because Allah (subhana wa ta'ala) knows what's best for us.

    Random pointless edit: I can't focus on my homework. >.<
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    Re: Sounds from space

    format_quote Originally Posted by Amoeba View Post
    And that's why, as I said, they're not sounds made in space, rather they're the result of electromagnetic and radio emissions from planets being decoded by a "tranceiver".
    Planets create electromagnetic and radio emissions?

    Are you sure about that?

    I know that some astronomers/musicians created some music using radio from pulsar http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pulsar
    but never heard any planet could emit radio, unless it's planet earth where the radio are transmitted by human
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