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    Hello, I'm new here and am doing research for a school project. I am seeking to find out what the conversation might be like if an Imam or Sheikh met an extraterrestrial. What kinds of things would he say to an extraterrestrial, or what kinds of questions would he ask? How would meeting an extraterrestrial affect or transform his Islamic faith, or would it? Thanks in advance!
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    Re: Extraterrestrials

    Hello Jjrakman.

    I am sure those Imam would ask "Do you believe in God ?, do you embrace a religion ?" and other similar questions. But I am not sure if human would meet extraterrestrials in this life (if extraterrestrial are exist)
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    Re: Extraterrestrials

    format_quote Originally Posted by jjrakman View Post
    How would meeting an extraterrestrial affect or transform his Islamic faith, or would it? Thanks in advance!
    There is nothing in the Qur'an that would be contradicted by the arrival of extraterrestrials. They would also be creations of Allaah(swt). We do not know everything Allaah(swt) has created.

    However even if the extraterrestrials looked like Humans, they would not be children of Adam(ra) and may have been created for purposes we do not understand. They may or may not have free will, they may or may not have a soul. We do not know why they would have been created.

    Coming in contact with them should be of no concern to us in regards to our worship of Allaah(swt). It would or should have no more influence on our beliefs than would the discovery of a never before seen rock.
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    Re: Extraterrestrials

    ^ as br. Woodrow said, unlike other religions, a hypothetical arrival of extraterrestrials would not affect muslims and understanding of Islam a tiny bit, let alone transform Islam.
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    Re: Extraterrestrials

    format_quote Originally Posted by jjrakman View Post
    Hello, I'm new here and am doing research for a school project. I am seeking to find out what the conversation might be like if an Imam or Sheikh met an extraterrestrial. What kinds of things would he say to an extraterrestrial, or what kinds of questions would he ask? How would meeting an extraterrestrial affect or transform his Islamic faith, or would it? Thanks in advance!
    Regardless of faith, if anyone ever meets an extraterrestrial they should ask it the most important question of all:

    'Would you like a cup of tea?'
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    Re: Extraterrestrials

    format_quote Originally Posted by View Post
    Regardless of faith, if anyone ever meets an extraterrestrial they should ask it the most important question of all: 'Would you like a cup of tea?'


    Very true.
    Prophet SAW taught us to be kind to our visitors and to offer them meal and drink.

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    Re: Extraterrestrials

    why would it affect his islamic faith. in fact it would increase it, as in the Quran , Surah Talaq, it is written that there are 7 heavens and of earths similar to it. Abdullah ibn Abbas said when explaining this verse that there are earths like our earth and there are beings on it like there are on earth adn they have prophets, etc.

    It is Allah who has created seven heavens and of the earth, the like of them. [His] command descends among them so you may know that Allah is over all things competent and that Allah has encompassed all things in knowledge. (65:12)
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    Re: Extraterrestrials

    the imam might ask about their belief, in God, in angels, etc. whether prophets came to them, whether books were revealed, etc.
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    Re: Extraterrestrials

    A part of me has always felt that extraterrestrials exist. I don't imagine that they look like the aliens that we see on TV, but it would make sense that there are other life forms out there somewhere. Allahu a3lam.
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    Re: Extraterrestrials

    format_quote Originally Posted by naidamar View Post




    Very true.
    Prophet SAW taught us to be kind to our visitors and to offer them meal and drink.

    Problem is, we don't know what an alien would eat.

    What should we do if we meet one? First ask questions to ascertain carefully whether or not they've had any prophets of their own back where they came from, and whether those prophets' teachings are the same as those of ours (at least insofar as the differences between our species and environments wouldn't automatically make it different). Probably they have had some but it's possible their guidance was meant to come from us. If it seems that they haven't, give them dawah.
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    Re: Extraterrestrials

    hahha this would be very interesting! I would like to know, if they are not on Earth, to what direction do they pray towards (if they are Muslim, or if a Muslim were to go to space)? I mean... the Earth is a Sphere like how the Qur'an calls it "egg shaped" (can not remember the verse... but this is a very often quoted one!)
    So what if a person is on the moon? Or just out in space? I asked a brother this, and he said just towards the Kabaa... but how? O__O
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    Re: Extraterrestrials

    format_quote Originally Posted by Yahya Sulaiman View Post
    Problem is, we don't know what an alien would eat.

    What should we do if we meet one? First ask questions to ascertain carefully whether or not they've had any prophets of their own back where they came from, and whether those prophets' teachings are the same as those of ours (at least insofar as the differences between our species and environments wouldn't automatically make it different). Probably they have had some but it's possible their guidance was meant to come from us. If it seems that they haven't, give them dawah.
    Hmmm, good point they probably would have a different digestive system than us and it could be what we eat and drink is poisonous to them.
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    Re: Extraterrestrials

    format_quote Originally Posted by Aztec-Revert19 View Post
    hahha this would be very interesting! I would like to know, if they are not on Earth, to what direction do they pray towards (if they are Muslim, or if a Muslim were to go to space)? I mean... the Earth is a Sphere like how the Qur'an calls it "egg shaped" (can not remember the verse... but this is a very often quoted one!)
    So what if a person is on the moon? Or just out in space? I asked a brother this, and he said just towards the Kabaa... but how? O__O
    This has actually happened before. I'm not sure of the details but I believe the Muslim astronaut probably kept up the timing of the prayers (as time appeared to him, relative to us) and faced the earth. That's what I would do. The important thing is to get the prayers done and keep up the timing. The exact times of day and direction to face are secondary to the fact of the prayers themselves, and were never meant to be immutable.
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    Re: Extraterrestrials




    Slightly off-topic:

    We don't have to be in orbit to run into the problem of salah times. If a Muslim lives in the Land of the Midnight Sun and doesn't have a watch, he would really need some help to perform his salah at the right time.

    Back on topic:

    E.T.? Give him/her/it salaam. If the E.T. had come in peace, there should be an appropriate response. Offer tea, by all means. The E.T. can't have come this far without some way of finding out whether the local food is agreeable to his/her/its digestive system. Also invite the E.T. to the mosque at the earliest opportunity. Where better to build interplanetary relationships than in the House of Allah.

    Of course, I am assuming that the E.T. doesn't start off by blasting to smithereens any moving thing that comes within firing range.
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    Re: Extraterrestrials

    well I feel like ETs are Jinns. Jinn can come in many way I think..correct me if I am wrong.
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    Re: Extraterrestrials

    format_quote Originally Posted by AishaRayann View Post
    well I feel like ETs are Jinns. Jinn can come in many way I think..correct me if I am wrong.
    By definition, ET (Extra Terrestrial - meaning "not of this earth") is creatures from other planets. So they live in this physical dimension.

    And djinn is one of Allah creatures that exist in this world but normally there is a veil between us and them, so they exist in different plane/dimension.
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    Re: Extraterrestrials

    Well before Islam. I practiced Paganism no witchcraft stuff though..and I had OBEs (Out of Body Experiences)..where supposidly my spirit would leave my body and go into a different dimension..I saw "aliens" before..they werent nice at all. That's why I say Jinns.
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    Re: Extraterrestrials

    It is true that djinns can assume many shapes, because they are created from smokeless fire, whose nature are different than our physical properties.
    They can imitate humans and animals and inanimate objects. One thing they are not allowed to do: they can't imitate Rasulullah SAW, even in the dreams.
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    Re: Extraterrestrials

    Meeting, we would have to assume they are very intelligent... at least socially and mechanically, and with a great understanding of mathematics, physics and all material sciences and biological sciences as well.
    Socially, because no single individual could build a craft sufficient. Such would require the co-operation of members of an advanced social system... either voluntarily or through being forced. (Would truly intelligent beings willingly accept being forced?)
    If really smart, I would think... they prefer to think for themselves and take on work voluntarily and co-operatively.
    Mechanically, because the craft would be, after all, some kind of a machine, as we commonly recognize such. A vehicle.
    Material sciences because... just think about it. Rocket Science to the maximum!
    Physics... the same. Huge understanding of everything necessary, basically, just like here. Flight dynamics, stresses, etc. etc.
    Biology and physiology, because of the hazards of space-travel and effects on sentient, physical bodies.

    Some could argue that an alien body would be made of something not harmed by cosmic rays, x-rays, etc.
    or that time wouldn't bother them because they had conquered it, or so on. Some would say aliens don't need bodies at all,
    that they are mental entities who travel by thought or something. Well, this is all open to imagination...

    A cup of tea!
    It is well-realized that we have no clue! Tea may be poisonous or a serious drug to them.
    For them to travel without provisions enough would be madness, unless they had some food-sustinence-energy conversion technology, (like pioneers who took a shotgun with them to convert four-legged energy to food)... and are they travelling randomly thru the vastness of space? Matter is rare in space and distances vast.
    Did they set out knowing we are here? Are they embarked on a mission to seek out and discover whatever they may stumble upon? Would intelligent beings be content to wander around aimlessly?

    Our greatest problem today... one of them, in my opinion, is that we are very territorial. The territory can be land, materials or ideas,
    and we fight, and have for millions of years, to hold our little territory. Will aliens want our territory for themselves, being stronger and more advanced than us? Will they act like guests or like conquerers?

    Will they take the planet's resources? No. Not to worry about that. Their abilities to extract any minerals or whatever from different worlds will be perfected. All earth has is a few pounds of gold and diamonds compared to entire carbon worlds made totally of diamond. Earth is small and hasn't got much, relatively... until it comes to it being JUST PERFECT FOR US! (how about that?)

    But will we be herded into camps? Will we be used for food? Will we be selectively bred like cattle?

    Minerals, gems, rocks and whatever is abundant in the universe. We SHOULD understand that life is the RAREST thing... that is what aliens would be attracted to. That is OUR question as well, isn't it? 'Is there life out there?' Not... are there electric toasters in space? We could care less about toasters and junk.
    Everyone is attracted to 'life', and that's what we, and aliens, would want to know about.

    So... they would look around and think about life. They would understand impermanence and change. They would comprehend pleasure and pain. They would relate to suffering, need and hunger. They would also understand compassion.

    They would observe governments and businesses and militaries and ask, 'what are these humans doing and why?'
    Aliens would be interested how history has shaped today's range of possible experience, and how forces in the world today will shape tomorrow. Would aliens perhaps try to inject some ideas or information which, in a few years time, like a seed growing into a good plant, alter patterns of understanding, thought; human doing and living on the planet?

    I bet they could write a book or two when they get through!

    Would aliens... how would they have evolved over time? Would they have left war-like tendencies behind?
    Would they have to have developed war-like tendencies like humans, considering the human/animal evolutionary past history? Would they prefer to display a peaceful attitude and understanding?

    As for ideas and concepts regarding a creator-being or a god.... We have no idea what they would think.
    Let's say they discovered that these humans have many belief systems. First, they may try to explain and understand what 'belief' is. They would probably want to understand something that virtually all peoples are involved in, to some extent.

    Certainly there is a difference between 'belief' and the reality of something. Like... 'I believe we have enough space-ship gas to make it to the next planet', versus... 'Oops! We just ran out of gas, fool!'
    Anyway, that might be first; to refine or define some meanings we assume we understand perfectly, but perhaps don't, only realizing our half-understanding of so much, actually. Aliens would have to tease apart the tangle of information so they could
    begin to get a clear understanding. They would have to be scholars of scholars and even go beyond that.

    And the word, 'faith'. They would want to know about that and understand it well. They would have had to have 'faith' in their ship to travel in it, no doubt. Perhaps they would want to know about, 'blind faith', and just what it might mean also. They couldn't have blind faith in all their wonderous, advanced technology... what would be needed was a technician who knew all about it, could troubleshoot and repair and even create new, if need be.

    Afterlife would be a concept to probe. They might discover why humans have this idea and why it seems so important.
    They would wonder about these humans, clearly related to and evolved from primates, but who consider themselves so totally different from all other life-forms, with something they call a 'soul' and the thing of 'eternal life'. What would thorough investigations reveal? What would be discovered? Would certain 'unpleasant truths' be discovered which humans refuse to admit to themselves?

    Would we end up hating aliens for things they may discover which we aren't ready to?
    Would we want them to go away? Would they have overstayed their welcome if they make us nervous?

    Would we embrace them if they could supply the missing piece of the puzzle for us, which would bring peace and happiness?

    Would we like to BAN them?

    Maybe we could write a book as well... a book of imaginary contact with aliens.

    What if WE ARE THOSE ALIENS on a journey, attempting to KNOW OURSELVES?
    Do we know ourselves? Can we know anyone else until we understad ourselves well? Really well?


    Anyway, all imaginations aside... How about that cup of tea?
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