A family has been protesting outside a funeral home in Toledo, Ohio, after they were told a parttime employee sexually assaulted their loved one's corpse. They want the place shut down. "I'm having nightmares about it," her mother, Ann Lemprecht, told WTVG. "I can't imagine someone touching my daughter." Brenda Shular-Cameron (pictured), a 51-year-old Chrysler employee, who loved horseback riding, camping and anything outdoors, died of multiple organ failure at a hospice in Northwest Ohio earlier this month, reports The Toledo Blade. She was taken to the H.H. Birkenkamp Funeral Home, which has been caring for the deceased for over 150 years.
Soon after, the funeral home manager, Susan Birkencamp, met with Shular-Cameron's two children, Marc Nail and Amber Thebeau-Tunison. She told them their mother's body had been "mistreated," Nail told The Blade, and that another employee had witnessed his coworker Lawrence Clement "fondling" the corpse. If they didn't go to the police, and thus make the incident public record, Birkencamp allegedly said, she would dismiss the $11,000 cost of the funeral services.
Lisa Marshall, a spokeswoman for the funeral home, disagreed with that description of events and said that if the business was interested in covering up the story, it wouldn't have even told the family about the alleged abuse. Marshall wouldn't tell The Blade whether 57-year-old Clement, who is employed part-time and is not a licensed funeral director or embalmer, had regular contact with corpses at the facility. The funeral home fired Clement, and contacted the Ohio Board of Embalmers and Funeral Directors, which oversees the state's funeral homes. A police investigation followed.
Clement, who does not appear to have a criminal past, soon gave himself up to authorities, and was arraigned on the federal charge of abusing a corpse. He paid his $50,000 bond, and is now waiting for a grand jury. He should be indicted early this week.
"We can't even bury her now," her mother, Anne Lamprecht, told The Blade. "We can't make funeral arrangements. We don't know if the police will hold her body. She didn't deserve this. None of the family deserved this." But Shular-Cameron was buried, a week later than planned, at a different Toledo funeral home.
This isn't the first time these charges have besmirched the name of the H.H. Birkenkamp Funeral Home. Twenty-four years ago, two former employees were found guilty of gross abuse of a corpse. One was sentenced to a year in prison, and the other was given limited immunity as part of a plea bargain.
"I want Birkencamp out of business," Ann told WTVG. "This has happened before, and it continues to happen, unless people do something about it. We have to inform the public so that the public knows what's going on."
If the Ohio Board of Embalmers and Funeral Directors find the charges to be valid, they could revoke the license of the home or its director. They can't discipline Clement himself, because he's unlicensed. But the courts can.
Re: Funeral Home Employee Arrested For Allegedly Molesting A Corpse
format_quote Originally Posted by مهرة
Oh why won't they give necrophilia a chance the way they do homosexuality? Maybe in the next 20 yrs or so...
Salaam,
I doubt it. There is no consent involved for necrophilia. Diseases could be spread too, though I'm not sure.
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format_quote Originally Posted by Tragic Typos
Salaam,
I doubt it. There is no consent involved for necrophilia. Diseases could be spread too, though I'm not sure.
is consent the magic word? yes I forgot.. well what if the deceased consented verbally before would that make it alright? We honor verbal consents in medicine.. Also dead people don't feel harm I mean they're dead so what's the harm? The dead won't worry about contractng an STD I mean what's the worst that can happen?
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Re: Funeral Home Employee Arrested For Allegedly Molesting A Corpse
format_quote Originally Posted by Alpha Dude
There was a really sick dude a couple of years ago who would frequent morgues and do his thing, they finally caught up with him in a major university hospital and took him to the mental institution which I don't get I mean it was his preference...
They could leave it in their will. 'I bequeath my dead body for my necrophilic lover. He has my consent'.
True dat and you know the earliest recorded case that I found related to that was a guy who couldn't let go of his fiance who died of TB.. neither the TB nor the fact that she was a rotting corpse acted as a deterrent.. but I think most necrophiliacs like to sample.. why commit to one dead person?
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Re: Funeral Home Employee Arrested For Allegedly Molesting A Corpse
Salaam,
format_quote Originally Posted by Alpha Dude
They could leave it in their will. 'I bequeath my dead body for my necrophilic lover. He has my consent'.
Interesting, but I doubt it. Someone that has sex with a corpse could carry many diseases and may spread it to other alive human beings through sex.
format_quote Originally Posted by مهرة
is consent the magic word? yes I forgot.. well what if the deceased consented verbally before would that make it alright? We honor verbal consents in medicine.. Also dead people don't feel harm I mean they're dead so what's the harm? The dead won't worry about contractng an STD I mean what's the worst that can happen?
Consent is the magic word. Homosexuals are able to give consent to have sex, otherwise it is rape.
A corpse is unable to give consent, unless they have stated it in their will. Verbal consents are not sufficient here. It must be communicated through a document. Most people would not like people to have sex with their dead body.
The harm is the spread of diseases. If a person has sex with a corpse and then has sex with other people that are not dead, then diseases can spread.
I was looking at myself talking to myself and I realized this conversation...I was having with myself looking at myself was a conversation with myself that I needed to have with myself.
Re: Funeral Home Employee Arrested For Allegedly Molesting A Corpse
Salaam,
I can't find this funny at all. It's too disgusting for me.
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Re: Funeral Home Employee Arrested For Allegedly Molesting A Corpse
format_quote Originally Posted by Tragic Typos
A corpse is unable to give consent, unless they have stated it in their will. Verbal consents are not sufficient here. It must be communicated through a document. Most people would not like people to have sex with their dead body.
So if they give consent n their will that would make it ok?
The harm is the spread of diseases. If a person has sex with a corpse and then has sex with other people that are not dead, then diseases can spread.
That works with live humans too but they don't make folks disclose what socially unacceptable diseases they've unless it is one that's reportable to the CDC...
Ask any pathologist and they'll assure you that dead people are far less harmless than live ones so that's not an excuse unfortunately ...
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Re: Funeral Home Employee Arrested For Allegedly Molesting A Corpse
format_quote Originally Posted by Tragic Typos
Salaam,
Interesting, but I doubt it. Someone that has sex with a corpse could carry many diseases and may spread it to other alive human beings through sex.
Consent is the magic word. Homosexuals are able to give consent to have sex, otherwise it is rape.
A corpse is unable to give consent, unless they have stated it in their will. Verbal consents are not sufficient here. It must be communicated through a document. Most people would not like people to have sex with their dead body.
The harm is the spread of diseases. If a person has sex with a corpse and then has sex with other people that are not dead, then diseases can spread.
Come'on you are against necrophilia on the basis that it spreads diseases? So does homosexuality, but I guess the other magic word is "protection".
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Re: Funeral Home Employee Arrested For Allegedly Molesting A Corpse
Salaam,
format_quote Originally Posted by مهرة
Oh why won't they give necrophilia a chance the way they do homosexuality? Maybe in the next 20 yrs or so...
Possibly because diseases can spread.
format_quote Originally Posted by مهرة
So if they give consent n their will that would make it ok?
From a legal perspective, yes. However, from a medical perspective, diseases can spread, so no.
That works with live humans too but they don't make folks disclose what socially unacceptable diseases they've unless it is one that's reportable to the CDC...
Ask any pathologist and they'll assure you that dead people are far less harmless than live ones
so that's not an excuse unfortunately ...
I'm not a medical doctor, but I'm speculating arguments that could arise for and against necrophilia. The argument for necrophilia is consent. The argument against necrophilia is diseases. Pure speculation on my part. Thought I make that clear before members start to make assumptions.
format_quote Originally Posted by TrueStranger
Come'on you are against necrophilia on the basis that it spreads diseases? So does homosexuality, but I guess the other magic word is "protection".
I'm speaking from a legal perspective, the law based in most western countries. The government does not care what people do in their sexual lives. As long as sex does not result in the spread of new STDs and there is consent involved, I suppose it is legal. People can even harm themselves in sex and this is not illegal, as long as there is consent involved.
format_quote Originally Posted by مهرة
The dead are far less harmless than the live ones and that's a fact but yeah they can always spring for protection ...
Okay.
format_quote Originally Posted by TrueStranger
I just can't envision some perverted dude messing with corpse without laughing. It's beyond disgusting.
Okay...
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The funeral home fired Clement, and contacted the Ohio Board of Embalmers and Funeral Directors, which oversees the state's funeral homes. A police investigation followed.
But Shular-Cameron was buried, a week later than planned, at a different Toledo funeral home.
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