Class Dismissed.Malala,You have done your job well.

[Endymion]

This video might answer the question why Malala's case get the attention of International media and why she has been recieving sympathies from around the world in spite of there are thousands who have been brutally killed,severly injured but never International media gave them such coverage neither they ever recieve sympathies and condolence like that.There are dozens of people in Northern areas of Pakistan who are running Schools to spread education for free but never did American officials met them and appreciate them the way they did to Malala and her Father.Is that all because of the diary that Malala wrote for BBC whose major part was written by her father?Or her service in this documentary to give the reason to drone attacks in tribal areas?

Here is the video,http://www.nytimes.com/video/2012/10...dismissed.html

In this video,Malala and her father condemned Taliban for all the destruction and asking American officials for help in spite of American drones scored good numbers in killing innocent tribal people than Taliban.

Another thing to mention the video of lashing women later proved fake.

Adam Ellick,the producer of this documentary said he was afraid of presenting Malala and her father in the documentary but they compel him to do so.Here a local news paper report his words which i translate shortly for English readers.

http://ummatpublication.com/2012/10/...?p=news-22.gif

Senior News reporter Talat Hussein wrote this attack is to provide a reason to Attack Waziristan.

http://www.saach.tv/2012/10/13/malal...li-waziristan/

[Endymion]

Black Water In Pakistan.What they are doing here?

http://www.foreignpolicyjournal.com/...r-in-pakistan/

Another local news paper pointed out there are more than 9 US Organizations including black water are in Pakistan busy in suspicious activities including Killing famous personalities,spying and other terrorist activities.

http://ummatpublication.com/2011/01/...?p=news-01.gif

[Endymion]

Black water activities first revealed when a Black water agent with the id,"Raymond Davis" killed two men in Lahore-Pakistan including another person killed by the Ambassy's car.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-south-asia-12298546

[Endymion]

The reports says drones killed more that 2500 Pakistani's in tribal areas and majority were innocent people including kids and women.Never they receive such media coverage neither sympathies from around the world.

[White Rose]

The reports says drones killed more that 2500 Pakistani's in tribal areas and majority were innocent people including kids and women.Never they receive such media coverage neither sympathies from around the world.

It is indeed saddening. May Allah SWT grant them jannatefirdous.

[Endymion]

They are indeed in Jannah as they were innocent but those who are alive,injured,lost their families,properties are living a life like hell.

[CosmicPathos]

the jalsa in karachi for malala, it is sickening. where is jalsa for every Muslim child killed and maimed by drones?

I hate pakistani awaam sheep.

[جوري]

Sob7an Allah.. where are all the alligator tear crowd whose sole purpose is to be devil advocates while presenting themselves as oh so human.
Amazing how dry this thread is of the hypocrites that enjoy otherwise a good scandal!

[Signor]

the jalsa in karachi for malala, it is sickening. Where is jalsa for every muslim child killed and maimed by drones?

I hate pakistani awaam sheep.

On topic,I feel glad someone did make a step forward and came up with something out of box.Try to make a rule,don't buy media hype.Billion dollar corporations don't risk their lives for truth,they look for something that sells.

[joesixpack]

I was not aware that Blackwater has changed their name again. They are now called "Academi". They actually operate under several other names, as well.

Aviation Worldwide Services- Headquartered in Florida, this is an aviation and air transport company. It consists of three subsidiaries. Presidential Airways Inc, STI Aviation Inc, and Air Quest Inc.

Greystone Limited- Registered in Barbados, this seems to be primarily security services (people with guns, basically).

I find it pretty interesting that they change their name so frequently and that they play such a shell game with their various divisions and subsidiaries.

[sister herb]

As thread is already closed by matter as Malala by moderators, it should not open again?

[Endymion]

the jalsa in karachi for malala, it is sickening. where is jalsa for every Muslim child killed and maimed by drones?

I hate pakistani awaam sheep.

qaum ki beti ... laanat aisi qaum par jis ko apnay betay na yaad rahay ...

I am also a part of this qaum who posted the other side of coin,do you think im standing alone in a crowd of 18 crore people?I can understand your emotions but you are repeatinng the same mistake others are making and i keep asking people not to do that.DONT TRUST WHAT MEDIA BROUGHT TO YOU BLINDLY.These protest are also a part of the game.To remind the world the whole Pakistan is against this attack (which they do ) and they think Taliban are behind this and they did this in the name of Islam.
Such kinds protest does not represent whole Pakistan just like the people protest for the Prophet were portrayed as uneducated,brain less mob who hurt others without thinking they were not the responsibles and are Muslims and are angry with the issue like them.

6. O you who believe! If a rebellious evil person comes to you with a news, verify it, lest you harm people in ignorance, and afterwards you become regretful to what you have done.
49.Surah Al-Hujrat (The Dwellings).

[Endymion]

As thread is already closed by matter as Malala by moderators, it should not open again?

Threads never get closed just because we discuss serious issues in them but because people start a word war to win the argument.

Will you give a look to the links and try to understand the real story?I was asked to provide proofs and im doing so.

[~Zaria~]

Assalamu-alaikum,

This video might answer the question why Malala's case get the attention of International media and why she has been recieving sympathies from around the world in spite of there are thousands who have been brutally killed,severly injured but never International media gave them such coverage neither they ever recieve sympathies and condolence like that.

Much of the contents of this video has been posted in the documentary on the previous thread.

I truly do not understand what this re-post is trying to clarify?

We do not deny the reasons as to why this story has made headlines.....yes, she is 'famous' for trying to raise awareness about the female education crisis in SWAT.
And yes, not all killings are revealed in the media.

Which can be compared to just about any other situation across the world.

e.g. In South Africa, Nelson Mandela is most known for his 27 year exile in prison, fighting for aparteid.
But there are many, many more unsung heroes from the past, who never have, and never will gain this recognition for their struggles in this battle.

Does this matter?

If our intentions are for the pleasure of Allah, and our return is to Him - does it matter, if ones injuries/ death is never recognised in the press?
Is it possible for media to cover each and every death?

This young girl has done more in a cause that is close to her heart, than many people who are far older.
Why does it not make sense for her story to make headlines?

Again, the fact that other fatalities have not received international coverage - does not draw away from the the tragic shooting of THIS young person.

Another thing to mention the video of lashing women later proved fake.

Is there evidence for this?
Who has proved it to be fake?

Im not saying that you are wrong ukthi, Im just asking for your sources.

Sob7an Allah.. where are all the alligator tear crowd whose sole purpose is to be devil advocates while presenting themselves as oh so human.
Amazing how dry this thread is of the hypocrites that enjoy otherwise a good scandal!

I imagine that you are referring to all those who held a different view to your own on the previous thread, as 'alligator tear crowd', 'devil advocates' and 'hypocrites'.

Narrated ‘Abdullah bin ‘Amr:

The Prophet said, “Whoever has (the following) four characters will be a hypocrite, and whoever has one of the following four characteristics will have one characteristic of hypocrisy until he gives it up. These are:
(1 ) Whenever he talks, he tells a lie;
(2) whenever he makes a promise, he breaks it;
(3) whenever he makes a covenant he proves treacherous;
(4) and whenever he quarrels, he behaves impudently in an evil insulting manner.” (See Hadith No. 33 Vol. 1)

{Volume 3, Book 43, Number 639: Sahih Bukhari}

Who has fufilled the above criteria, to be called a hypocrite?

Do you feel good about calling your brothers and sisters as such, simply because they had a difference in opinion?

I personally have not resorted to this, nor have the other contributors to the other thread.

Please refrain from this.
This is not the way of muslims.

If you have a contribution to make to this thread, then do so.
These types of comments are not constructive to any discussion.


I agree with sister harb - a similiar thread has been closed by the mods. Unless, there is some new information that has come to light, or evidence that we can ponder over, I suggest the same here insha Allah.

Theres no point squabbling about an issue that is mostly based on speculations - dividing this ummah even further.

[CosmicPathos]

Mind Your language....

Mind what? What did I say which was inappropriate?

Ppl who vote for PPP, or who rally after MQM, they are hardly humans.

[White Rose]

Actually, I think its a good thing that Sis Endymion made this thread because some of us wanted more information and conformation regarding this case. People who dont agree with this dont have to read the information posted on this thread.

[CosmicPathos]

I am also a part of this qaum who posted the other side of coin,do you think im standing alone in a crowd of 18 crore people?I can understand your emotions but you are repeatinng the same mistake others are making and i keep asking people not to do that.DONT TRUST WHAT MEDIA BROUGHT TO YOU BLINDLY.These protest are also a part of the game.To remind the world the whole Pakistan is against this attack (which they do ) and they think Taliban are behind this and they did this in the name of Islam.
Such kinds protest does not represent whole Pakistan just like the people protest for the Prophet were portrayed as uneducated,brain less mob who hurt others without thinking they were not the responsibles and are Muslims and are angry with the issue like them.

6. O you who believe! If a rebellious evil person comes to you with a news, verify it, lest you harm people in ignorance, and afterwards you become regretful to what you have done.
49.Surah Al-Hujrat (The Dwellings).

Ukhti, you do know that I was not referring to you or the like-minded Pakistanis who are sick and tired of this as well. Apologies if it came that way. I was referring to specific section of popln who are all super teary eyed on this.

[CosmicPathos]

I imagine that you are referring to all those who held a different view to your own on the previous thread, as 'alligator tear crowd', 'devil advocates' and 'hypocrites'.

Theres no point squabbling about an issue that is mostly based on speculations - dividing this ummah even further.

Do not you think if we are to be okay with "different views" of other Muslims, the division has already started?

It does not make sense to me that you want Muslims to have different opinions and then expect them to not divide/split? How is that even possible? Having a different opinion is the first split.

[جوري]

I imagine that you are referring to all those who held a different view to your own on the previous thread, as 'alligator tear crowd', 'devil advocates' and 'hypocrites'.

You imagine incorrectly! I believe you're just minsinformed and emotional given the situation in your own country (and on a side note I am yet to meet one south African who is not white or Jewish if you don't belong to either of those then I have an understanding of the oppression your country endured and how it impacts your world views & sympathy to the underdog or as so appears in this case)- No one here knows me to hide my intentions whether with friends or foes or hide behind a veil of sanctimonious diplomacy.
This might not be an acceptable method for you but that's just who I am at the end of the day I am looking to be honest as that is what Allah swt asked me to do, I am not requested to lie or be nice or not say it like it is to be liked. Being liked or respected is a nice bonus in life but certainly not an injunction!
As for the criteria of hypocrites per ahadith, then there are tons of ahadith and verses on the matter that aren't listed in the one hadith you provided such as:
Verily, I fear for this Ummat every such munaafiq who will speak with wisdom and perpetrate, injustice.

The most fearsome object which I fear for my Ummat is every such

munaafiq who has the ability of eloquent expression.

http://books.themajlis.net/node/281

I'd be happy to share more if you require and at any rate I shared one such hadith in the previous thread- however, telling lies and proving treacherous indeed fit the bill from the first thread as per my comment here!
Firstly your history on the forum isn't as long as ours and you've to trust as you do the more senior doctors in your job that some by virtue of experience alone know things that you don't! and secondly there were posts that were deleted from that particular thread which you didn't see, so why the exasperation and annoyance especially when asking us to supposedly referain from the same type behavior and close the thread up?
I hold for you no grudge sister & I would hope the same although I can't force the issue but I'll not exchange silence on a matter that to me is clear as day for a friendly relation.

[cOsMiCiNtUiTiOn]

It does not make sense to me that you want Muslims to have different opinions and then expect them to not divide/split? How is that even possible? Having a different opinion is the first split.

I disagree with this statement, difference of opinion is not the first split. Difference of opinion is NORMAL and accepted in Islam. We have 4 schools of thought to prove this and also the sahaba (ra) had differences of opinion but remained united. It's called ACCEPTANCE and tolerance. Just because somebody doesn't agree with one doesn't mean one resorts to name calling and or judgement, one should remember that which unites one with the other. People should not distance themselves from each other just because they don't agree with each other, instead just find a common ground. Sorry for being redundant, just making sure I'm clear



- cOsMiC