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    The following is a picture I've been seeing on Facebook every now and then, and most people simply believe it to be true.

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    I'm not saying that it is completely false as I don't know myself. I'm no scholar in the Arabic language, and the spelling I use is "inshaAllah."

    What I feel is that what matters more is the intention, because most people anyway know the proper pronunciation, and these days even non-Muslims are aware of its meaning. So, I want to ask whether inshaAllah really does mean "create Allah" in Arabic in any particular dialect or accent? I wouldn't have given much thought to this, but the "create Allah" threat is, I think, too farfetched if this thing is just a hoax.

    On top of it all, they're using the picture of Dr. Zakir Naik to spread this message, and for an unsuspecting person, the impact will be exponentially more.
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    If Allah helps you, none can overcome you; and if He forsakes you, who is there after Him that can help you? And in Allah (Alone) let believers put their trust.
    Surah Ale Imran : 160

    It was narrated that Anas ibn Maalik (may Allaah be pleased with him) said:
    The Prophet (blessings and peace of Allaah be upon him) climbed up Uhud, accompanied by Abu Bakr, ‘Umar and ‘Uthmaan, and the mountain shook with them. He struck it with his foot and said: “Stand firm, O Uhud, for there is no one on you but a Prophet or a Siddeeq or two martyrs.”
    Narrated by al-Bukhaari (3483)

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    Re: This "In Shaa Allah" Confusion

    I've heard tht too n once someone told me to write it properly :s would want to know too cuz I write it as InshaAllah.

    some ppl just write iA is tht ok??
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    Re: This "In Shaa Allah" Confusion

    I think the word for create is "khalaqa" or something related with the root letters kha lam qaf but then again I am not an arabic speaker. I've seen sis bluebell use "In Shaa Allah" though and she's an arabic speaker.

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    Re: This "In Shaa Allah" Confusion

    Wa Alikum Assalaam Wa Rahmatullahi Wa Barakaatuh

    I am a native Arab and yes, the above picture is totaly right and i do write in shaa Allah like this In'shaa Allah just to separate them

    if writing it in Arabic like this: إنشاء الله then it means: creating Allah (astaghfero Allah) and the right way is: إن شاء الله which means: If Allah Wills or God Willing or by Allah's Willing. So, we better separate them as been told above...the best way to write it is In Shaa Allah.
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    What about in French - could we write it like In ch'Allah (that's how they normally write it except without the space). Or would In cha'Allah be better.

    I'm just realising that some of us should probably be more careful how we pronounce it too. Should we pause longer on the ن ?
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    Re: This "In Shaa Allah" Confusion

    Very good to know, thanks.
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    Re: This "In Shaa Allah" Confusion

    format_quote Originally Posted by tearose View Post
    What about in French - could we write it like In ch'Allah (that's how they normally write it except without the space). Or would In cha'Allah be better.
    I'm just realising that some of us should probably be more careful how we pronounce it too. Should we pause longer on the ن ?
    Wa Alikum Assalaam Wa Rahmatullahi Wa Barakaatuh ^-^

    Yes my sweetheart, separate them and no worries about the pronunciation cause both phrases have the same pronunciation but written differently...

    and as long as we know how to write it the right way then we must and for those who knew not about this before then there is nothing on you so, no worries .

    May Allah help us all to worship Him The Exalted right and make us deserve being His servants and slaves Ameeeeen
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    Re: This "In Shaa Allah" Confusion

    format_quote Originally Posted by Amat Allah View Post
    May Allah help us all to worship Him The Exalted right and make us deserve being His servants and slaves Ameeeeen
    Ameen Ya Rabb.
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    Re: This "In Shaa Allah" Confusion

    Asoa ..good to have come across this, JazakI Allah ...and please do tell me if its Jazaki ALlah when u say thanks to girls or a single person? Im confused here a bit...
    Also, is there Ikhfa on the noon of Inshaa Allah here?
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    Re: This "In Shaa Allah" Confusion

    format_quote Originally Posted by SFatima View Post
    Asoa ..good to have come across this, JazakI Allah ...and please do tell me if its Jazaki ALlah when u say thanks to girls or a single person? Im confused here a bit...
    Also, is there Ikhfa on the noon of Inshaa Allah here?
    I'll post them in classical arabic In shaa Allah ^-^

    Jazaaki Allaahu Khayran means: May Allah reward you with good.

    Singular:

    for the male we say: Jazaaka Allaahu Khayran
    for the female we say: Jazaaki Allaahu Khayran

    Plural:

    2 males or 2 females
    : Jazaakuma Allaahu Khayran
    for many males or mixed people (males and females): Jazaakumu Allaahu Khayran
    for many females: Jazaakunna Allaahu Khayran.

    And out of respect we can use the plural of it: Jazaakumu Allaahu Khayran for one person whether male or female .

    And no habibati; we only use that rule and all Taj'weed rules when we recite Qur'aan not in our normal and daily speech ^-^ may Allah love you always Ameeen and Jazaakumu Allaahu Khayran my dear.

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    The same principle applies to too? If we write in English, as in Ma Sha Allaah or can it be stuck together, Masha'Allaah, Masha-Allaah, or MashaAllaah?

    format_quote Originally Posted by Amat Allah View Post
    if writing it in Arabic like this: إنشاء الله then it means: creating Allah (astaghfero Allah) and the right way is: إن شاء الله which means: If Allah Wills or God Willing or by Allah's Willing. So, we better separate them as been told above...the best way to write it is In Shaa Allah.



    O please forgive me if I have written anything wrong
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    Jazaki Allah khayrun sister AmtAllah, what a lovely sister you are my dear!

    I so want to learn Arabic, are you Arabian ? sigh unless you speak a language, you cant learn it, atleast I cant
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    The right way is to write it as Maa Shaa Allah but if making no space between words then it means something else...

    We need to learn the right way so we disrespect not Allah and also to teach others and especially our precious children, May Allah grant you Athurriyah Assaalihah Ameeeeeen
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    JazakiAllah Khayraan sister Amat Allah.

    I can only say learning never ends. I'll be putting the things I learned in this thread into practice, in shaa Allah.
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    If Allah helps you, none can overcome you; and if He forsakes you, who is there after Him that can help you? And in Allah (Alone) let believers put their trust.
    Surah Ale Imran : 160

    It was narrated that Anas ibn Maalik (may Allaah be pleased with him) said:
    The Prophet (blessings and peace of Allaah be upon him) climbed up Uhud, accompanied by Abu Bakr, ‘Umar and ‘Uthmaan, and the mountain shook with them. He struck it with his foot and said: “Stand firm, O Uhud, for there is no one on you but a Prophet or a Siddeeq or two martyrs.”
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    Wa Iyyaakum my respected and noble brother, May Allah love you, Be pleased with you and make Al Firdaws miss you till you enter it without any reckoning Ameeeen

    Yes, it never ends ever. We all learning in this dunya and Ya Rabb the good things which will show us the way to Allah and make us closer and closer to Him Ameeeeen

    format_quote Originally Posted by Ali_008 View Post
    I'll be putting the things I learned in this thread into practice, in shaa Allah.
    Those words of you reminded me of these precious verses of Al Qur'aan Al Kareem:

    "But those who have avoided Taghut, lest they worship it, and turned back to Allah - for them are good tidings. So give good tidings to My servants (17)Who listen to speech and follow the best of it. Those are the ones Allah has guided, and those are people of understanding. (18)" Surat Azzumar.

    May Allah make you and the whole Ummah from them Ameeeen

    btw, you have my father's name ^
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    format_quote Originally Posted by Ali_008 View Post
    JazakiAllah Khayraan sister Amat Allah.

    I can only say learning never ends. I'll be putting the things I learned in this thread into practice, in shaa Allah.
    Same here bro, In Shaa Allah!
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