Many people say "life is short so lets enjoy to the fullest" if we could only knew this life is a game, it's a test, it's all about being righteous, as long as we live in this world were shaytan is,there is no any enjoyment because shaytan does not back off until he brings you down . Allah told us everthing, what to do, what to eat, what to avoid, how the day of judgement will be and how to make shaytan back off and bring him down instead. SubhanAllah all praise be to Allah the loving one, without Allah we are all nothing. So lets all give thanks to Allah for being there for us. May Allah protect us from shaytan "Ameen"
أََللّٰهُمَّ أَحْسِنْ عَاقِبَتَنَا فِىْ الْاُ مُوْرِ كُلِّهَا وَأَجِرْنَا مِنْ خِزْىِ الدُّنْيَا وَعَذَابِ الْاٰخِرَةِ - O Allah! Grant a good end in all our matters and save us from humiliation of the world and the torment of the Hereafter.
Doing things in moderation is the way, intention is the key but what will be utmost in our mind in your final seconds of life? Laa ilaaha ilallah Muhammadurasulullah. Pray that we are granted a good end in all our matters, end of life especially. Amiin.
This is something I don't understand, why did God decide to set up a giant test in which He created new beings and they have to spend their life working out if He's real. If they get it wrong they must suffer for eternity. What was the point? And how are modern day people meant to know He exists when He apparently hasn't had any involvement with anyone on Earth for many many years and when He did speak to people on Earth and perform miracles it was only in the Middle East ignoring the rest of the world who then developed their own religions?
This is something I don't understand, why did God decide to set up a giant test in which He created new beings and they have to spend their life working out if He's real. If they get it wrong they must suffer for eternity. What was the point? And how are modern day people meant to know He exists when He apparently hasn't had any involvement with anyone on Earth for many many years and when He did speak to people on Earth and perform miracles it was only in the Middle East ignoring the rest of the world who then developed their own religions?
Your questions seems to be based on misundertanding. You are making it out as if it's a guessing game with a 50/50 chance of going to Hell or Heaven. If you were to use your reason then it is clear that God exists. Muslims are to spend their lives striving to be better muslims. It doesn't mean that there's no such thing as "fun". We have our portion in this world but the true goal is the hereafter and that is what we aim for.
^^Yes but I'm referring to God actually interacting with people which apparently hasn't happened for a while. The list you have just mentioned can be explained by science for non-believers, they don't see it as proof of God. Also there's my point that God didn't bother with the rest of the world, just a very specific part which got all his attention. Why did God never interact with people in America or Africa?
Once you 'submit', it is like a roller coaster ride. Exhilarating! Whatever the situation, you are firmly on rails and secured in your seat. It is when you 'fight' it that you don't really get to 'enjoy' the moment(s).
But your question, Laura, is like, how can I be certain? What is the proof? Everyone has that question.
To understand Allah and his message to mankind, read about the 25 prophets. It makes you see the consistencies and the real purpose. It is about accepting no other than Him as the Lord and doing good. We have to earn an honest living. That would be a start. Perhaps you will be inspired.
It is all in you, what you want to see, you will see. What you don't want to believe you won't believe.
The Quran and the 'sunnah' has remained. As a 'Seal' it's a sure sign of Allah's protection and it does not need another prophet to correct the message even after 1400 years. That, in itself is a miracle, or that everything the prophet did, it mimicked around the world to a varying degree. Do you want to know the message? Do you want to find out?
He sends the signs, perhaps repeatedly. We chose to ignore. We will be questioned of those too! Especially if we complain So easiest way is to say hey, if Allah says the story of mankind started with Adam (pbuh), why not give it a go? Read it and proceed from there.
This is something I don't understand, why did God decide to set up a giant test in which He created new beings and they have to spend their life working out if He's real. If they get it wrong they must suffer for eternity. What was the point? And how are modern day people meant to know He exists when He apparently hasn't had any involvement with anyone on Earth for many many years and when He did speak to people on Earth and perform miracles it was only in the Middle East ignoring the rest of the world who then developed their own religions?
may i recommend you to listen to the talks of t j winters (abdul hakim murad) he, coming from a british background and having turned to islam in the prime of his youth beautifully explains this.
he is a lecturer at cambridge university and im sure you will benefit from his discourses
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My tears testify that i have a heart
yet i feel me and shaytan never part
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was only in the Middle East ignoring the rest of the world who then developed their own religions?
Someone with better history knowledge can correct me if I am wrong but at the time when prophets were sent from God only Europe, Asia, and Africa were populated which would mean AT THAT TIME the middle east was the center of the worlds population. The rest of the world was not explored yet..
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Someone with better history knowledge can correct me if I am wrong but at the time when prophets were sent from God only Europe, Asia, and Africa were populated which would mean AT THAT TIME the middle east was the center of the worlds population. The rest of the world was not explored yet..
No, this is not correct. The whole world was already long before settled including far-flung areas like Australia and the Americas. Large scale civilisations and cities developed first in the Fertile Crescent and in China, for reasons of natural resources, but there were smaller tribes or even smaller bands everywhere.
The problem of prophets reaching every community is more complicated than that. Traditional peoples live in tiny communities, often just a few hundred people. They would know the neighbouring bands and have virtually no contact with anybody beyond that. You would need to send thousands of prophets to cover even a small area. Studies of the Papua New Guinea highlands, which remained 'undiscovered' till the 1930s, revealed a massive farming population of over a million in thousands of separate and antagonistic communities.
Their religion showed a huge variety with no trace of Abrahamic influence (in fact the religion of traditional peoples tends to have very different characteristics from any religion of 'civilisation' - it serves a different function.)
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This is something I don't understand, why did God decide to set up a giant test in which He created new beings and they have to spend their life working out if He's real. If they get it wrong they must suffer for eternity. What was the point? And how are modern day people meant to know He exists when He apparently hasn't had any involvement with anyone on Earth for many many years and when He did speak to people on Earth and perform miracles it was only in the Middle East ignoring the rest of the world who then developed their own religions?
Just following what God said and what his messenger peace be upon him said makes us enjoy life,many people when they say "lets enjoy life" all they think about is going to club, drinking, dancing, committing adultery and so on, may point here is if you want to enjoy life, enjoy it while doing good things that pleases God not wasting your time clubbing and so on. God is involved with everything,God doesn't ignore what he created. without God, there would have been no food, no water. we would have no protector, no guider, no helper. look right and left, look everything around you all those are the blessing of God. God's blessing are uncountable. God's mercy is all around us, who brings down the rain that's God and that's his mercy. God is the most merciful. everyone does what God doesn't like but yet God doesn't punish them quickly he still showers his blessing upon them, any people worship other things instead of there own creator the one who created them but yet God doesn't punish them quickly, he still showers his blessing upon them. Now tell me do you think God ignores mankind after all that he does for us until now. Everything around us is the prove that God exists. The blessings that God showers us with is the prove that God exists even though we are so ignorant that we don't even realize the blessings of God. the sun, the moon and the stars are also the prove that good exists. where did those come from? did it create it self or scientist did? the answer is no but God created it and that is what also shows us God exists.
This is something I don't understand, why did God decide to set up a giant test in which He created new beings and they have to spend their life working out if He's real. If they get it wrong they must suffer for eternity. What was the point?
here's something to wonder about, what why did the education board decide to set up a giant test in which they created new questions and kids have to spend a good part of their life (the enjoyment part) struggling and studying hard while wondering if they're ever going to make it in the rat race? If they get it wrong they might suffer for the rest of their lives. What was the point?
why not just let them play and have fun?
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the fact is, as kids we will never be able to fully comprehend, but one thing we know for sure is that we have to try and make it.
what'sat stake is not the next 70 years, but eternty.
Had the non-believer known of all the Mercy which is in the Hands of Allah, he would not lose hope of entering Paradise, and had the believer known of all the punishment which is present with Allah, he would not consider himself safe from the Hell-Fire http://www.muftimenk.co.za/Downloads.html
no time for enjoyment! what? i must beg to differ!
you can find enjoyment in prayer!
in seeking knowledge!
in performing acts of charity!
in teaching others!
spending time with loved ones!
erm, spousal privileges if you have a spouse!
a good nap!
a interesting book!
taking a walk!
the list is pretty long if you ask me!
your right akhi but what l mean by saying "life is short there is no time for enjoyment" is, first truly indeed life is short no doubt about it because we can die any minute, any time, any where, any place we don't know when we will die. am talking about how many people say "life is short lets enjoy to the fullest" and if you ask those people how they will enjoy to the fullest all they will tell you is that by parting and so on. so that's why l said "this life is a test there is no time for enjoyment because as long as shaytan exists he will not leave you alone" But by following what Allah said and rasulullah (saw),if we really follow what they said then we can really enjoy life in dunya and in akhira.
May Allah subhan forgive me if l said anything wrong and May Peace and mercy of Allah be Upon our beloved prophet Mohammad (saw)
here's something to wonder about, what why did the education board decide to set up a giant test in which they created new questions and kids have to spend a good part of their life (the enjoyment part) struggling and studying hard while wondering if they're ever going to make it in the rat race? If they get it wrong they might suffer for the rest of their lives. What was the point?
why not just let them play and have fun?
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the fact is, as kids we will never be able to fully comprehend, but one thing we know for sure is that we have to try and make it.
what'sat stake is not the next 70 years, but eternty.
peace
Because people have to learn in order to get a job, earn money and buy food to live. Kids learn so they can work towards their ambitions and live the life they want. It's not the same as creating a whole race simply to test them- that's what I don't understand. If Allah wanted humans to look after the world he had created why not remain a constant presence so they know He's there and can live in peace and worship Him. Why the test? And don't just say rainfall and other natural things are his presence and prove his exist because they don't really- not for non-believers. Non-believers see rain and think it was caused by water evaporating, that these are all natural processes. When I say a presence I mean actually reveal Himself- if He wants to be worshiped.
And don't just say rainfall and other natural things are his presence and prove his exist because they don't really- not for non-believers. Non-believers see rain and think it was caused by water evaporating, that these are all natural processes. When I say a presence I mean actually reveal Himself- if He wants to be worshiped.
It seems that your idea of knowing something's existence is for it to be literally showed to you in front of your eyes(or the other four senses). Is that the only way you know something exists? This is why if one were to truly think about it one would find that the atheist point of view is illogical. Do you honestly think that your five senses are so good that they can perceive everything in existence? You can't even see microbes without using a microscope and you want to see God? If you were sitting on a beach alone and suddenly a small rock drops on top of your head, you would wonder where it came from wouldn't you? Because you know that it cannot have possibly come from nowhere. Simple logic! Yet somehow when it comes to the Creator of the universe you have trouble believing that He exists? That's like waking up in someone's house, not seeing the owner there, you use everything as if it belongs to you and somehow think that the house has no owner. Where's the logic in that?
And saying that "non-believers see rain and think it was caused by water evaporating, that these are all natural process." Do you honestly think that believers deny the process of evaporation? Since you brought it up though, please think it through. You say that it is a natural process. Ok then, that means it has it's own set of traits/laws that it adheres to. But do you not reflect on Who ordained for it to have such characteristics(what you call natural)? Just because we understand the means of how something works doesn't mean we reject its Creator.
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And to op I'm sorry this thread sort of got derailed. Seems like a lot of people jumped on it without actually understanding what it means.
If I may share a verse from the Quran.
"..But seek, through that which Allah has given you, the home of the Hereafter; and [yet], do not forget your share of the world. And do good as Allah has done good to you. And desire not corruption in the land. Indeed, Allah does not like corrupters.""
Quran Sura Al Qasas Verse 77
We had to learn it before the exams
We've seen abundant signs in the past few decades, the fact that your leaders try to suppress them should raise alarm bells as to their intentions and make you wonder why they fear the truth so much.
If you can't comprehend them, don't bother asking, just ponder,
Peace
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And how are modern day people meant to know He exists when He apparently hasn't had any involvement with anyone on Earth for many many years and when He did speak to people on Earth and perform miracles it was only in the Middle East ignoring the rest of the world who then developed their own religions?
So easiest way is to say hey, if Allah says the story of mankind started with Adam (pbuh), why not give it a go? Read it and proceed from there.
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