The scriptures of many religions speak of a coming leader who will consummate the fulfilment of the divine will on Earth. He will manifest in this person the righteousness and compassion of God, and he will bring about the final defeat of evil, and establish the Kingdom of Heaven on Earth. The Hebrew title Messiah–’Christ’ in Greek means “anointed one,” that person who will be specially chosen by God for this mission and empowered to accomplish it.
But while the term Messiah is specific to only a few religions, prophecies that a leader will come and accomplish such a mission are nearly universal.
Religions call him by various names: Jews long for the promised Messiah; for Christians the Messiah is Jesus of Nazareth, who has already come and ascended to heaven but will reappear (perhaps in a new guise) at his Second Coming. Muslims also expect the second advent of Jesus, who will come as a Muslim Imam, and among Shiite Muslims there are various expectations of a future Imam Mahdi. Buddhist sutras prophesy the coming of the Maitreya Buddha; Vaishnavite Hindu scriptures prophesy the future descent of an avatar named Kalki; Zoroastrian scriptures prophesy the coming of the Saoshyant; and some Confucian texts speak of a future True Man who will finally bring peace to the world by perfectly instituting the Way of Confucius.
With this in mind and the many faiths and civilisations awaiting the fulfilment of prophesy, could a non-Muslim be the Mahdi, can both the Sunni interpretation of Christ to return be equally fulfilled as the Shia with their call for the Mahdi leader?
Yours in faith of the one and only God.
Optimal Unity
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Sunni Islam also has the belief that there will be a Mahdi. In fact, there will be two personalities in the end times: The Mahdi (guided one) and Prophet Isa upon him be peace (Jesus).
Both the Mahdi and Prophet Isa can only be Muslim.
The scriptures of many religions speak of a coming leader who will consummate the fulfilment of the divine will on Earth. He will manifest in this person the righteousness and compassion of God, and he will bring about the final defeat of evil, and establish the Kingdom of Heaven on Earth. The Hebrew title Messiah–’Christ’ in Greek means “anointed one,” that person who will be specially chosen by God for this mission and empowered to accomplish it.
But while the term Messiah is specific to only a few religions, prophecies that a leader will come and accomplish such a mission are nearly universal.
Religions call him by various names: Jews long for the promised Messiah; for Christians the Messiah is Jesus of Nazareth, who has already come and ascended to heaven but will reappear (perhaps in a new guise) at his Second Coming. Muslims also expect the second advent of Jesus, who will come as a Muslim Imam, and among Shiite Muslims there are various expectations of a future Imam Mahdi.
Buddhist sutras prophesy the coming of the Maitreya Buddha; Vaishnavite Hindu scriptures prophesy the future descent of an avatar named Kalki; Zoroastrian scriptures prophesy the coming of the Saoshyant; and some Confucian texts speak of a future True Man who will finally bring peace to the world by perfectly instituting the Way of Confucius.
With this in mind and the many faiths and civilisations awaiting the fulfilment of prophesy, could a non-Muslim be the Mahdi, can both the Sunni interpretation of Christ to return be equally fulfilled as the Shia with their call for the Mahdi leader?
Yours in faith of the one and only God.
Optimal Unity
To answer your question, “can a non-Muslim be the Imam Mahdi”, the answer is “absolutely not!”
The Imam Mahdi will be a Muslim and will revive the Faith of Islam. Similarly, the Promised Messiah Jesus of Nazareth (peace be upon him) when he comes will follow the Law of Islam, the Shari'ah, and will bring glory to the Religion of Islam. In his time, the Religion of Islam will be ascendant and all other religions will be annihilated.
We do not believe in the so called future saviors that other religions speak about.
We believe that the Messiah who was to come for the Jews was Prophet Jesus of Nazareth (peace be upon him).
Therefore, the messiah who the Jews are waiting for has already come. But we believe that an Anti-Christ (Dajjal) is going to come to mislead humanity. When this Anti-Christ comes the Jews will say “he is our Messiah”.
So the coming savior of other religions is the evil Anti-Christ in our view. Our Messiah will be a follower of Islam and will defeat the Anti-Christ which other religions are waiting for.
In other words, in the near future there will be a great war between Heaven and Hell, between Islam and falsehood, between the true Messiah (Jesus) and the false messiah (Anti-Christ).
Sunni Islam also has the belief that there will be a Mahdi. In fact, there will be two personalities in the end times: The Mahdi (guided one) and Prophet Isa upon him be peace (Jesus).
Both the Mahdi and Prophet Isa can only be Muslim.
format_quote Originally Posted by Ishaaq
To answer your question, “can a non-Muslim be the Imam Mahdi”, the answer is “absolutely not!”
The Imam Mahdi will be a Muslim and will revive the Faith of Islam. Similarly, the Promised Messiah Jesus of Nazareth (peace be upon him) when he comes will follow the Law of Islam, the Shari'ah, and will bring glory to the Religion of Islam. In his time, the Religion of Islam will be ascendant and all other religions will be annihilated.
We do not believe in the so called future saviors that other religions speak about.
We believe that the Messiah who was to come for the Jews was Prophet Jesus of Nazareth (peace be upon him).
Therefore, the messiah who the Jews are waiting for has already come. But we believe that an Anti-Christ (Dajjal) is going to come to mislead humanity. When this Anti-Christ comes the Jews will say “he is our Messiah”.
So the coming savior of other religions is the evil Anti-Christ in our view. Our Messiah will be a follower of Islam and will defeat the Anti-Christ which other religions are waiting for.
In other words, in the near future there will be a great war between Heaven and Hell, between Islam and falsehood, between the true Messiah (Jesus) and the false messiah (Anti-Christ).
As-salamu alykum to you both...
Thanks you for that clarification, I am glad the Sunni and the Shia share the belief in the Mahdi. I thought that was the main difference between them.
Can I ask if either of you are aware of the detail, I am not sure if it is in the Quran or Hadith but I do remember comming across it in my research where it states. All of humanity is Muslim, it is just that they do not remember it?
Sunni Islam also has the belief that there will be a Mahdi. In fact, there will be two personalities in the end times: The Mahdi (guided one) and Prophet Isa upon him be peace (Jesus).
Both the Mahdi and Prophet Isa can only be Muslim.
Salaams all.
I was just going to post the above too. Sunnis believe in Mahdi. I have no idea about Shia's though.
There are some Muslims who belief Mahdi is already on this earth so the end of times is nigh.
The reason that many religions prophesize the coming of leader who will fill the world with righteousness is because these religions were from God. They taught the same message and all Prophets prophesized the signs of the end times including the coming of the anti-christ. All Prophets were Muslims and their religion was Islam. God sent the same religious message (though their were some differences in practices according to time). Later the teachings of the Prophets were changed by people and the religions got different names such as Christianity, Buddhism, Judiasm, etc. If you look at some of the religion's scriptures, you can see that they teach monotheism. Even Hindu scriptures teach that there is only one God, that there is nothing like God, and that images of God should not be made (although Hindus do the complete opposite).
Thus, only a Muslim can be the Mahdi. Jesus is also a Muslim.
The reason that many religions prophesize the coming of leader who will fill the world with righteousness is because these religions were from God. They taught the same message and all Prophets prophesized the signs of the end times including the coming of the anti-christ. All Prophets were Muslims and their religion was Islam. God sent the same religious message (though their were some differences in practices according to time). Later the teachings of the Prophets were changed by people and the religions got different names such as Christianity, Buddhism, Judiasm, etc. If you look at some of the religion's scriptures, you can see that they teach monotheism. Even Hindu scriptures teach that there is only one God, that there is nothing like God, and that images of God should not be made (although Hindus do the complete opposite).
Thus, only a Muslim can be the Mahdi. Jesus is also a Muslim.
I've been called by Allah to be the Mahdi, how do I become a Muslim?
Assalamu'ala manittaba'al huda,
Namely Al muslimeen wa al mahdieen wa al mu-mineen.
Muslim means "one who submits to Almighty God and achieves peace".
Al-Mahdi means "the (rightly) guided (one)".
Al mu-min means "the believer".
So it's impossible to assume that one doesn't submit to Almighty God and is rightly guided.
Words don't always express meanings,however they often give a stark indication.
Context is more important in understanding projected words and in this case, the literal and contextual meanings are undeniable.
So research, find and accept the truth and be guided thereby.
Surely the rest will fit like a jigsaw puzzle.
The al-walaa and al-baraa of liars, adulterers, unlawful invaders, drunkards, prostitutes etc in contrast to those most in tune with the truthful and virtuous commands in all scriptures, who are accused and vilified for enforcing the laws of God should make the sifting a little easier.
Hope i made sense.
Peace....
I've been called by Allah to be the Mahdi, how do I become a Muslim?
One can become a Muslim in about 10 seconds. It is very easy to become a Muslim, but it takes a lifetime to be a Muslim
To become a Muslim one need only Know that the shahadah is the truth and to say it at least once with full sincerity and full intention and desire to forever submit all your thoughts, words and deeds to serving Allaah(swt)
But there is a paradox as by becoming a Muslim you would soon realize you are not the Mehdi.
No one will be called to be the Mehdi as he will be born as such.
Assalamu'ala manittaba'al huda,
Namely Al muslimeen wa al mahdieen wa al mu-mineen.
Muslim means "one who submits to Almighty God and achieves peace".
I have been with Almighty God since my birth. Achieving peace is the mission I am on for all of humanity.
format_quote Originally Posted by Abz2000
Al-Mahdi means "the (rightly) guided (one)".
Let me suggest, there is no right or wrong before Allah, Allah know your heart, your mind and your soul, and he is ever merciful. The English you are looking for in this description is "the correctly guided one"
format_quote Originally Posted by Abz2000
Al mu-min means "the believer".
Yes I am the beleiver.
format_quote Originally Posted by Abz2000
So it's impossible to assume that one doesn't submit to Almighty God and is rightly guided.
I have been guided by Allah since birth, I have submitted to Allah and been judged by Allah and now are ready to execute the plan Allah has divulged to me.
format_quote Originally Posted by Abz2000
Words don't always express meanings,however they often give a stark indication.
Context is more important in understanding projected words and in this case, the literal and contextual meanings are undeniable.
Indeed, words are very powerful, if Islam did not loose the path of Allah in history Arabic could have been the Universal language, sadly Islam lost that right a long time ago, it is why English is to be the Universal Language.
format_quote Originally Posted by Abz2000
So research, find and accept the truth and be guided thereby.
Surely the rest will fit like a jigsaw puzzle.
It is not that simple, you would think the rest would fit like a jigsaw puzzle, however it is a lot more complicated a puzzle. For one you talk of peace, but all the research I have done on the expectation of Islam and the Mahdi suggests Islam is expecting a grand warrior ready to take Muslims into a bloody battle, when clearly that is not the correct path.
format_quote Originally Posted by Abz2000
The al-walaa and al-baraa of liars, adulterers, unlawful invaders, drunkards, prostitutes etc in contrast to those most in tune with the truthful and virtuous commands in all scriptures, who are accused and vilified for enforcing the laws of God should make the sifting a little easier.
You would need to heed the words of Isa (pbuh) with in this view, judge lest ye be judged, love your neighbour as you yourself, and only Allah knows your true heart, mind and soul.
One can become a Muslim in about 10 seconds. It is very easy to become a Muslim, but it takes a lifetime to be a Muslim
To become a Muslim one need only Know that the shahadah is the truth and to say it at least once with full sincerity and full intention and desire to forever submit all your thoughts, words and deeds to serving Allaah(swt)
But there is a paradox as by becoming a Muslim you would soon realize you are not the Mehdi.
No one will be called to be the Mehdi as he will be born as such.
You may want to read this thread here
That is why I am Mahdi first and becoming a Muslim second.
Are you an evangelist?
You speak of 'Isa and peace,
Yet having read more than 70% of the bible, one can see the O.T full of blood guts, doom and glory.
And the book of revelation in the NT describing the battles of the end times and describing the chosen servants of God and Christ as great warriors.
Revelation 12:10 KJV
And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night.
Revelation 12:11 KJV
And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death.
Law of qisas, in contrast with turning the other cheek alone.
One accuses the believers of terrorism despite the relentless imprisonment and murdering of virtuous people by kuffar who hate what God has revealed, abu ghraib and guantanamo (though recent past) are stark examples of the levels to which evil can stoop, yet when an infidel mercenary is captured and beheaded, (not even a scratch on the surface in terms of retaliation-rather a reluctant warning to stop killing God's servants) the accusations about lack of wisdom, fly far and wide, behold, read thy book describing the end times if thou pleasest:
Revelation 13:9-10 KJV
If any man have an ear, let him hear.
He that leadeth into captivity shall go into captivity: he that killeth with the sword must be killed with the sword. Here is the patience and the faith of the saints.
Know that peace is achieved via submission to God and jihad in His way, and not via submission to Satanism/atheism/man worship/stone worship.
Firstly you are granted peace by Almighty God who repents of the declaration of war from Him, secondly, people are able to live in peaceful societies leaving their persons and properties safe and prosperous.
REPENT OF PAST IMPURITUES AND EVIL, AND JUDGE - YES JUDGE - AND ESTABLISH GOD'S LAW UPON EARTH, FOR THE KINGDOM OF HEAVEN IS WITHIN YOU AND THE KINGDOM OF GOD IS HERE.
Are you an evangelist?
You speak of 'Isa and peace,
Yet having read more than 70% of the bible, one can see the O.T full of blood guts, doom and glory.
And the book of revelation in the NT describing the battles of the end times and describing the chosen servants of God and Christ as great warriors.
Law of qisas, in contrast with turning the other cheek alone.
One accuses the believers of terrorism despite the relentless imprisonment and murdering of virtuous people by kuffar who hate what God has revealed, abu ghraib and guantanamo (though recent past) are stark examples of the levels to which evil can stoop, yet when an infidel mercenary is captured and beheaded, (not even a scratch on the surface in terms of retaliation-rather a reluctant warning to stop killing God's servants) the accusations about lack of wisdom, fly far and wide, behold, read thy book describing the end times if thou pleasest:
Know that peace is achieved via submission to God and jihad in His way, and not via submission to Satanism/atheism/man worship/stone worship.
Firstly you are granted peace by Almighty God who repents of the declaration of war from Him, secondly, people are able to live in peaceful societies leaving their persons and properties safe and prosperous.
REPENT OF PAST IMPURITUES AND EVIL, AND JUDGE - YES JUDGE - AND ESTABLISH GOD'S LAW UPON EARTH, FOR THE KINGDOM OF HEAVEN IS WITHIN YOU AND THE KINGDOM OF GOD IS HERE.
I speak in the direction of Allah, some messages from Isa are overlooked by the so called Gods servants, first take the jihad of self examination there by the grace of God you might find Allah, when you do you might be revealed in the Ultimate Truth, robotic prostration and citation of the words do nothing for that journey, what do you read into it is a testament of your spiritual maturity, I see the way to be with peace with the teachings of all the prophets, to interpret which apply when and where is a skill only revealed to the true servants of the word.
Optimal, with no disrespect intended, you seem to display signs of delusions of grandeur.
You believe yourself to be the figure 'that the scriptures talk about'. This is all in your mind and a product of your vain desires my friend. You have no (and can have no) substance behind such claims.
Optimal, with no disrespect intended, you seem to display signs of delusions of grandeur.
You believe yourself to be the figure 'that the scriptures talk about'. This is all in your mind and a product of your vain desires my friend. You have no (and can have no) substance behind such claims.
Yes, I do believe that I am the figure that the scripture talk about, I don't say that lightly, it is a heavy burden, an impossible task, but when you are called, what can you do, If I am not than the least I can do is volunteer to be it, because quite frankly I don't know about any of you I am sick of this waiting around for the leader to appear, I am sick of this violence, I am sick of seeing Islam being ridiculed and used to take away our freedoms, vanity is far removed from my motivations my brother, please, you would be well advised to take care when judging someone in these times, you know nothing about me nor what I have been through. I know where my cave is do you?
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