At least 717 hujjaaj are now reported to have lost their lives today, with more than 800 injured.
May Allah accept their hajj, and raise them the deceased in their ihraam garments on the day of judgement saying labbayk allahumma labbayk (here I am O Allah, here I am), and may he give sabr to their loved ones, ameen
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This is a clear message for mankind in order that they may be warned thereby, and that they may know that He is only One God, and that those of understanding may take heed (14:52)
Indeed Allah knows, and you know not (16: 74, part)
To Allah swt we belong and to Allah swt we shall return.
You can't die in a better state than being in a state of emaan and remembering Allah swt.
A very good death and every Muslim's dream.
May Allah swt ease the pain and suffering for the families left behind and may Allah swt help us all utilise our precious time Ameen.
Pain and hardships allow you to grow spiritually Alhamdulilah so smile when a so called calamity befalls upon you.
Alhamdulilah Allah swt is the greatest.
May Allaah have mercy upon the deceased, raise their ranks and accept from all the Hujjaaj, Aameen.
It is a testing period for many, involving a mixture of emotions. But everything occurs by the permission and decree of Allaah and He is the Most Merciful, the Most Wise. Allaahu akbar Allaahu akbar laa ilaaha illallaah, Allaahu akbar Allaahu akbar wa lillahil hamd.
At least 717 people taking part in the Hajj pilgrimage have been killed in a stampede near the Islamic holy city of Mecca, officials in Saudi Arabia say.
Another 863 people were injured in the incident at Mina, which occurred as two million pilgrims were taking part in the Hajj's last major rite.
Inna lillahi wa inna ilayhi raji'un
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According to the news reports, this stampeding and trampling people to death thing happens with alarming regularity there. You'd think they'd build better infrastructure. They know these people will be coming.
According to the news reports, this stampeding and trampling people to death thing happens with alarming regularity there. You'd think they'd build better infrastructure. They know these people will be coming.
It is not a regular occurrence. If you look at the history of events, the last decade or so has actually seen much more safety in terms of previous tragedies. It isn't easy to cater for millions of pilgrims every year and we shouldn't have knee-jerk reactions blaming the Saudi government assuming they don't do anything. A lot goes on which the news reports obviously won't bother to tell you. Every year funds from the annual budget are allocated exclusively for expansion projects, and several bridges and tunnels have been built to accommodate the ever increasing numbers of pilgrims performing rites at sites outside Makkah. There have been a series of ongoing projects aimed at improving the quality of accommodation, health care and other services for the pilgrims.
It's a lie by islamophobes that it's a regular occurence. While there were incidents in the past, every year Saudis have invested time and money in improving and facilitating the hajj.
They've invested in the best crowd monitoring and control systems and even devised new methods and technologies for this purpose, pioneering many. I once watched a very interesting documentary on this wish I still had it or knew where to find it.
I've seen my local news and some of the comments by these sick islamophobes... but then they forget themselves that even in a crowd of a hundred people, they have ACTUAL violent stampes where people INTENTIONALLY stomp, kick and push each other for consumer goods (black friday, christmas day, sales, etc...).
It's a lie by islamophobes that it's a regular occurence. While there were incidents in the past, every year Saudis have invested time and money in improving and facilitating the hajj.
They've invested in the best crowd monitoring and control systems and even devised new methods and technologies for this purpose, pioneering many. I once watched a very interesting documentary on this wish I still had it or knew where to find it.
I've seen my local news and some of the comments by these sick islamophobes... but then they forget themselves that even in a crowd of a hundred people, they have ACTUAL violent stampes where people INTENTIONALLY stomp, kick and push each other for consumer goods (black friday, christmas day, sales, etc...).
presstv (iranian news -- so be weary of their intentions) ran a story that it was actually the son of the saudi prince who came randomly and hundred police and hundred fifty soldiers were gaurding him and disrupted hajj, but that the saudi officials covered it up.
I can't trust an ounce of crap coming out of presstv considering they praise bashar al assad and bash everything 'wahabi' (sunni) in their regular broadcasting.
"If a good befalls you, it grieves them, but if some evil overtakes you, they rejoice at it. But if you remain patient and become pious, not the least harm will their cunning do to you. Surely, Allah surrounds all that they do."
Inna lillahi wa inna ilaihi raji’oon.
Hundreds of hujjaaj (pilgrims) died in a stampede in Mina, alas!
It is very easy to say that they will be taken to Paradise, Al-hamdulillah that Allah gives us at least one of the two successes! But about the responsibilities of those who are alive: Beware! Allah’s Justice is very pure and perfect and Allah’s Accounting will be with perfect proofs for every action of cruelty, this proof is prepared by the angels through the book of deeds. The unjust are also going to die but Allah’s Justice shall take them to Hell forever! This is the difference between the end result of the innocent and cruel. No one can escape the Accounting on the Day Of Judgment!
We have gone to Makkah and Madinah 3 times (once for Hajj and twice for umrah, one of the umrah we did in Ramadhan). It is only Hajj for which we Muslims have to go from Makkah to Mina, the plains of Arafaat and to Muzdalifah. The sacredness of all those places is something which cannot be described in words, rather it is in the feelings of the hujjaajs.
We went in the time of Shah Faahad. Some events that we came across are:
In Mina while going to throw stones on the pillars we saw a group of tall strong men who started pushing. They seemed to be mischievous! I soon started du’aa. (Here now I especially mention
about Aayatul-Kursee. If we find some people fighting, we start reading Aatul-kursee, the fighting stops by the Grace of Allah within the time we complete one reading. Similarly, any mischief will stop and fail insha Allah).
So the mischief stopped and we reached the building having the pillars. I wanted to go up to th 2nd floor but I saw a very big crowd coming on that way, I, along with my two adult children, turned away and went down to the ground floor. There a man strongly threw a stone which, instead of the pillar, hit my son on his lip. Al-hamdulillah, that the stones are as a rule small pebbles. No injury happened but we left that place, went out of the building, crossed the road and sat in a corridor waiting until the crowd decreased. We had to make our asar prayer in that corridor and when it seemed easy to go, we went up the stairs and threw the stones on the pillar. There we saw police in large number, alert to prevent any mishap. Also the whole area of Mina from the tents to the pillars, building was an open field under the sky. There were no walls or tunnels or squares. Broad pathways were demarcated by slight ridges which could be easily crossed. One could easily turn away and go back if he/she so willed. Later we heard that the government built more floors for the pillars, so the crowd got divided and the process became much safer and easier. Since then we didn’t hear of any mishap.
Now it is said that there are tunnels and squares. In the original news someone gave his statement that the exit tunnel was closed. Then the news told that the two crowds on the roads 223
and 204 came across each other at the square. Both tunnels and squares are very dangerous at that place. At a square, the crowds coming from the opposite sides or even from the right or left side are in great danger of collision!
Before this calamity we heard the news that a crane fell down on the Masjid-al-Haraam which killed and injured many hujaaj even before the actual days of Hajj. The Masjid-al-Haraam was shown in the news, it was surrounded by many cranes one of which had fallen on the pilgrims. We are surprised why should many cranes be fixed around Masjid-al-Haraam near the Hajj days when millions of Muslims go there!!! And then why should be such carelessness in the fixing of the cranes??? We usually don’t hear about the falling of cranes in other places! It is true that to regulate the manasics (rituals) in those sacred places for such large crowds is great and hard work but the Muslim managers of those activities believe that they will be given great reward by Allah Almighty and thus they will feel great pleasure in their sincere hard work.
On the other hand such painful, grieving disasters are not happening with the pleasure of Allah. The authorities are highly responsible to observe and exercise strict control for the prevention of any accident.
Once, while we were in Makkah, we were going towards the Masjid-al-Haraam at night. When we reached near a gate in the fence around the Haram-Shareef, people were standing in the gate giving an impression that the inside place is full with no way to enter. Outside the fence a very big crowd was proceeding towards the gate from all directions. We got stuck and felt the danger of stampede. Meanwhile my daughter got forcefully pushed through the gate and disappeared! I, being worried about my daughter, started saying loudly, “ Allaho Akbar, Allaho Akbar,……..
Suddenly a big empty space appeared in the center just outside the gate and my daughter ran out of the gate into the empty space, Al-hamdulillah, Allaho Akbar wa lillahil-hamd!!! The group of people inside the gate left the gate and so the way got opened. As we entered we saw open big field with no crowd. It means that just a group of some people (who might be munafiqeen/hypocrites) had occupied the gateway to cause stampede in the outside crowd but this was possible for them because of the fence and gate. In fact, in the past, no fences or walls or gates were made and open area was very good for the crowds to move.
Now in Iran, people (mainly women) are shown doing protest against the Saudi Government. It is astonishing! If the Irani people have so much love and sympathy with the Muslims then why didn’t they do any protest to stop their own government from helping the mass-murderer ruler Bashaar in Syria???
In fact the Muslims shouldn’t just take it easy matter thinking about one side only that the killed ones will go to Paradise. The Muslims must be alert; they must think about all possible things and try to advise all the sincere Muslim authorities to be alert. The things are very deep! Let us think about Allah’s Commands in this matter:
Allah Almighty ordered that no kafir or mushrik is allowed to go to Makkah. And Allah also made all pictures/photos prohibited. These Commands had safety for Makkah and for the Muslim visitors to all those sacred places. Allah knew the consequences. Now kafirs cannot go to Makkah but due to pictures/videos etc. Makkah is visible to all kafirs including those who have planned ethnic cleansing and massacres on Muslims. They can see that it is the largest gathering of the Muslims and any accident there will cause the killing of many people.
The 2nd tragedy is the presence of munafiqeen (hypocrites) who, just for some worldly gains, will do anything for the pleasure of the enemies of Islam.
Every munafiq must know that Allah Almighty has prepared for him/her the lowest/deepest place in Hell! Allah said in surah Al-Nisaa verses 145 and 146:
145. Indeed, the hypocrites will be in the lowest depths of the Fire - and never will you find for them a helper –
146. Except those who repent (from hypocrisy), do righteous good deeds, hold fast to Allah, and purify their religion for Allah (by worshipping none but Allah, and do good for Allah's sake only,
not to show-off), then they will be with the believers. And Allah will grant to the believers a great reward.
Even we true Muslims must check our characters and must clean ourselves from the signs of munafiqeen which are:
Telling lies, not keeping promises and misappropriating trust (khiyanah fee amaanah).
We Muslims must do amar bil-maroof and nahi anil-munkar (enjoining good and forbidding evil). We must remind our authorities their responsibilities and that police must be present in the sacred places and remain very alert about the mischievous actions of the cruel munafiqeen. Here again I mention something that happened in the Masjidi-Nabawee;
There were fixed hours for the sisters to visit the shrine of Muhammad salla Allaho alaihi wa sallam. We went in those hours to the shrine. It was surrounded by walls (wooden or plastic) with a small open door through which all of the sister were entering and proceeding to the front. When we reached the front we saw the wall had no door so we got stuck in. More and more sisters were entering, the place got full and we were standing under pressure being unable to move. Some of the women started crying. Then we, while crying, requested the female police to open another door so that we could go out. Alhamdulillah, that the police women were present there and they opened a door for us, so we came out. On the way we saw two men sitting there. One of them seemed like imam. A woman said to him, “all doors are closed so the women will die due to pressure (shoving)”. He said, “they will become Shaheed”. She said, “Ya imami muhtarim, they will become Shaheed but you will become killer”.
Her clear words made the imam thoughtful, as he had taken only one side of the matter that those who die there are Shaheed (martyr). Then he remembered that it was his and his fellow-men’s responsibility to prevent such things which may cause death of the Muslim visitors to Allah’s House. After that they opened broad ways and removed accessory walls, so the sisters then could go, sit, and make nafal prayer with ease and comfort, Alhamdulillah! Therefore, do d’awa with hikmah but in clear words to make the authorities understand their responsibilities.
The crane fell down on the Masjid-al Haraam on September 11 and killed many hujaaj. It doesn’t seem to be accidental but is expected to be planned by the kafirs who are watching from far away while their plans are carried out by the munafiqeen sitting among the Muslims in the sacred places of Islam. Munafiqeen are present among Muslims at each level. I pray to Allah to bring us help against munafiqeen (hypocrites), murtadeen (apostates), and kafirs, aameen.
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Martyrs in Thursday’s Haj stampede from 7 countries
That's an awful tragedy, but why call them martyrs? Isn't that reserved for those who die in struggle on behalf of Islam or Allah? Is there a supernatural angle to this tragedy?
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Reason: I don't think anyone suggested that
That's an awful tragedy, but why call them martyrs? Isn't that reserved for those who die in struggle on behalf of Islam or Allah? Is there a supernatural angle to this tragedy? They went to throw stones at the devil and the devil struck them down?
Survivors from Indonesia and Nigeria told same story. Saudi police suddenly closed a road in route to Jamarat and ordered people to move to road 204 that already crowded. At the same time road 204 was used by people who back from Jamarat. It caused collision between two huge group of people.
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Indonesia- 3
Latest update. 45 Indonesians died while 82 are still missing.
But to answer your question, any Muslim who goes out in order to fulfill a religious obligation, or even a supplementary religious action - and dies in the process, dies a martyr.
When I was in KSA in 2006, a tour operator from London who used to organise umrah visits to KSA, died in a car crash, I consider him to be a martyr because he died in the process of making peoples umrah visits more organised - a good action which is supplementary.
At the end of the day, God decides who is a martyr and who isn't but we have been given guidelines so we can understand what a martyr is... the case of a man who dies by the sword in an holy war may die a martyr but that is rare when 1.7 billion Muslims in the world - most of which have never held a sword (or gun) and die while in obligatory or supplementary actions - constitute for the majority of martyrs in my honest opinion.
Death comes wherever it is written. While it doesn't remove responsibility from whoever was responsible for the stampede - people or government or both - dying in or just after hajj is imo a good thing (though, not tragic desths. may Allah protect from such deaths) - because one is expected to have died in a pure state. And it's possible that dying in hajj shows that Allah called the deceased to Himself in a state while the person was performing such a great islamic ritual imo. Allaho alum.
Death comes at its appointed time wherever you are and there's no escape from death. The 700+ hujjaj were destined to die and would have whether they had gone for hajj or not. An ayah of the Quran says about those who fear going in the way of God for fear of death, that death will come to them in their homes, in their beds. This is why I didn't like the title of this thread.
Everybody will die. There's no escape from death. The important thing is to remember that and prepare for the Aakhirah.
My neighbour's husband died yesterday and she's been crying a lot - though she's in her mid 40s with one adult child - the rest are younger. really sad to hear her crying. SubhanAllah.
May Allah swt forgive our sins. Ameen & the sins of all the deceased Muslims Ameen.
May Allah swt give your neighbour sabar Ameen.
As human beings most of us can't bear a couple of hours without human interaction.
Imagine being alone in your grave with no one to keep you company apart from your book of deeds.
It's so important we try and aim to do something good in our day. In sha Allah. That one deed, if consistent will add up to a mountain of good in sha Allah.
Pain and hardships allow you to grow spiritually Alhamdulilah so smile when a so called calamity befalls upon you.
Alhamdulilah Allah swt is the greatest.
Fatwa No : 117204
Is death during Hajj considered martyrdom?
Fatwa Date : Rabee' Al-Awwal 18, 1435 / 20-1-2014
Question
I would like to know: if somebody dies during Hajj, will he be considered a martyr? Thank you.
Answer
All perfect praise be to Allaah, The Lord of the Worlds. I testify that there is none worthy of worship except Allaah, and that Muhammad , is His slave and messenger.
Death during Hajj is a sign of a good conclusion of one’s deeds, Allaah Willing. Whilst a man was standing at ‘Arafah during the Hajj with the Messenger of Allaah , he fell from his mount and broke his neck. The man was in the state of Ihraam, thereupon the Prophet , told his Companions to bury him in his two garments and neither perfume him nor cover his head. He said: “He will be resurrected on the Day of Judgment proclaiming Talbiyah.” [Al-Bukhaari and Muslim]
Without doubt, that is a great reward and most excellent degree. Hajj and Jihaad are among the best deeds. But, to the best of our knowledge, there is no indication that he will be a martyr.
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Indeed Allah knows, and you know not (16: 74, part)
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