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What to say after second rak'ah?

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    What to say after second rak'ah?

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    If I pray 4 or 3 rak'ah prayer what do I have to say in a sitting position after second rakat?

    Do I say only attahiyat and than go to 3rd rakat or do I say both attahiyyat+allahumma (+rabbana) and than go to 3rd rakat or do I have to say all of them attahiyyat+allahumma+rabbana+salam and than go to 3rd rakat?

    1.) Al-Tahiyyaatu Lillaahi wa’l-salawaatu wa’l-tayyibaat. Al-salaamu ‘alayka ayyuha’l-Nabiyyu wa rahmat-Allaahi wa barakaatuhu. Al-salaamu ‘alaynaa wa ‘ala ‘ibaad-illaah il-saaliheen. Ash-hadu an laa ilaaha ill-Allaah wa ash-hadu anna Muhammadan ‘abduhu wa rasooluh.

    2.) “Allaahumma salli ‘ala Muhammad wa ‘ala aali Muhammad kama salayta ‘ala Ibraaheem wa ‘ala aali Ibraaheem, innaka hameedun majeed. Allaahumma baarika ‘ala Muhammad wa ‘ala aali Muhammad kama baarakta ‘ala Ibraaheem wa ‘ala aali Ibraaheem, innaka hameedun majeed. Rabbana atina fid-dunya hasanatan wa fil 'akhirati hasanatan waqina 'adhaban-nar. Rabbana-gh-firli Waliwalidayya-Walilmu'mineena-Yawma-Yaqoom-ol-hisab.

    3.) salam to both sides
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    Re: What to say after second rak'ah?

    Welcome to the forum.


    On the second rak'ah you say the entire 1) and Allahumma sally 'ala Muhammad and go to the third rak'ah.

    On the final rak'ah you do 1) 2) and 3)


    Wishing you a great stay and fulfillment in performing your salahs



    What to say after second rak'ah?

    As long as my heart does beat, I shall live, not lie
    For when my heart does stop its beat, with truth, I die.
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    Re: What to say after second rak'ah?

    format_quote Originally Posted by greenhill View Post
    Welcome to the forum.


    On the second rak'ah you say the entire 1) and Allahumma sally 'ala Muhammad and go to the third rak'ah.

    On the final rak'ah you do 1) 2) and 3)


    Wishing you a great stay and fulfillment in performing your salahs



    JazakAllahu khair brother,

    btw take a look at this video

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l70t...ZJKBt&index=23

    Why do they say salam after second rak'at and than go to 3rd?
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    Re: What to say after second rak'ah?

    format_quote Originally Posted by greenhill View Post
    Welcome to the forum.On the second rak'ah you say the entire 1) and Allahumma sally 'ala Muhammad and go to the third rak'ah.On the final rak'ah you do 1) 2) and 3)Wishing you a great stay and fulfillment in performing your salahs
    It's only tashahud in first sitting whereas in second one tashahud durood dua will be recited
    Last edited by azc; 01-08-2017 at 01:16 PM.
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    Re: What to say after second rak'ah?

    format_quote Originally Posted by iwantjannah View Post
    JazakAllahu khair brother,

    btw take a look at this video

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l70t...ZJKBt&index=23

    Why do they say salam after second rak'at and than go to 3rd?


    I cannot watch YouTube as my flash player is out of date and I can't seem to upload the newer version. Hence I cannot answer on the video.

    As far as I am 'in the know' you give salaams at the end of your prayer, not in between, to the angels assigned to writing down your 'scores'. So to have 2 salams say for maghrib (one at the end of second rak'ah and one again at the end of the third) is not something I have heard of because we only give one salam at the end of all our prayers.


    What to say after second rak'ah?

    As long as my heart does beat, I shall live, not lie
    For when my heart does stop its beat, with truth, I die.
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    Re: What to say after second rak'ah?

    format_quote Originally Posted by azc View Post
    It's only tashahud in first sitting whereas in second one tashahud durood dua will be recited
    …… and give the salams…

    But, I am not sure what you are referring to here? I only answer based on the format the OP is asking. 1) tashahud 2) durood & 3) salaams. I am taught to offer the simple salutation to our beloved prophet pbuh after the tashahud and proceed to the next rak'ah but only as far as "Allahummasolli 'ala Muhammad" (and stop there).... So please explain my error…


    What to say after second rak'ah?

    As long as my heart does beat, I shall live, not lie
    For when my heart does stop its beat, with truth, I die.
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    Re: What to say after second rak'ah?

    format_quote Originally Posted by greenhill View Post
    I cannot watch YouTube as my flash player is out of date and I can't seem to upload the newer version. Hence I cannot answer on the video.

    As far as I am 'in the know' you give salaams at the end of your prayer, not in between, to the angels assigned to writing down your 'scores'. So to have 2 salams say for maghrib (one at the end of second rak'ah and one again at the end of the third) is not something I have heard of because we only give one salam at the end of all our prayers.


    What if I pray witr or tahajjud or duha? Is it the same?
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    Re: What to say after second rak'ah?

    format_quote Originally Posted by azc View Post
    It's only tashahud in first sitting whereas in second one tashahud durood dua will be recited
    Are you saying that we must say both attahiyyat+allahuma and than go to 3rd rak'at? What about rabbana atina, is this a part of allahuma or not?
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    Re: What to say after second rak'ah?

    format_quote Originally Posted by iwantjannah View Post
    Are you saying that we must say both attahiyyat allahuma and than go to 3rd rak'at? What about rabbana atina, is this a part of allahuma or not?
    in first sitting you are to read tashahud (attahiyyatu...... Wa rausuluh) only and stand for third rakat; and in last sitting you are to read tashahud, drood (allahumma salli....), dua and then salam
    Last edited by azc; 01-08-2017 at 04:16 PM.
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    Re: What to say after second rak'ah?

    @greenhill :In first sitting you are to read only tashahud. No part of durood should be read here and stand for third rakat and in last sitting you are to read tashahud , durood, dua and then salam
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    Re: What to say after second rak'ah?

    format_quote Originally Posted by azc View Post
    in first sitting you are to read tashahud (attahiyyatu...... Wa rausuluh) only and stand for third rakat; and in last sitting you are to read tashahud, drood (allahumma salli....), dua and then salam
    JazakAllahu khair brother, also could you watch this video if no problem.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l70t11zT9hI

    Why do they say "salam" in first sitting? Is because it is a witr or?
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    Re: What to say after second rak'ah?

    ^It's the difference of opinion of famous 4 madhab. Which madhab do you follow.? It's better for you to consult a scholar you trust.
    Last edited by azc; 01-08-2017 at 05:10 PM.
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    Re: What to say after second rak'ah?

    @iwantjannah : “Yahya ibn Musa reported to us, he said: ‘Abd al-‘Aziz ibn Khalid reported to us, he said: Sa‘id ibn Abi ‘Arubah narrated to us from Qatadah from ‘Azrah from Sa‘id ibn ‘Abd al-Rahman ibn Abza from his father from Ubayy ibn Ka‘b, he said: ‘The Messenger of Allah would recite in Witrsabbihisma rabbika l-a‘la, and in the secondrak‘ahqul ya ayyuha l-kafirunand in the thirdqul huwa Llah, and he would not say salam except at the end of these (threerak‘ahs).’”(Sunan al-Nasa’i, Qadimi Kutub Khanah, pp. 248-9)
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    Re: What to say after second rak'ah?

    format_quote Originally Posted by azc View Post
    ^It's the difference of opinion of famous 4 madhab. Which madhab do you follow.? It's better for you to consult a scholar you trust.
    I dont follow any.

    format_quote Originally Posted by azc View Post
    @iwantjannah : “Yahya ibn Musa reported to us, he said: ‘Abd al-‘Aziz ibn Khalid reported to us, he said: Sa‘id ibn Abi ‘Arubah narrated to us from Qatadah from ‘Azrah from Sa‘id ibn ‘Abd al-Rahman ibn Abza from his father from Ubayy ibn Ka‘b, he said: ‘The Messenger of Allah would recite in Witrsabbihisma rabbika l-a‘la, and in the secondrak‘ahqul ya ayyuha l-kafirunand in the thirdqul huwa Llah, and he would not say salam except at the end of these (threerak‘ahs).’”(Sunan al-Nasa’i, Qadimi Kutub Khanah, pp. 248-9)
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